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January 23, 2006, 8:44 am PST

lonely mom

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Hi,
I usually write on the a different board... But I figured that if anyone had any ideas...
On January 17 2005 a friend of mine (Very loving, strong, pentacostal christian woman) lost her 10yr old son in a house fire...
I haven't talked to her since March 2005 and I just don't know how to keep in touch... or to try and get back in touch with her now... I'm a "new christian" (3yrs) and not very good at the praying for a person thing..... and well.... just not sure how I can be a friend to her.... how I can help....
I have never delt with the childs death and the "loss" of a friend... It is on my mind almost everyday  

I am a mom who lost my daughter in March 2004. It is really nice to read your message. Since I have lost my daughter it seems like I have no friends. I had lots of friends before this happened to my family. Now we are so lonely.  I would like to get back to the normal where people called just to say "Hi". I don' t know if that will ever happen. It seems like my friends are scared like you are. Just remember we have never had to deal with the loss of a child either and now we have to deal with the loss of our friends also. I don't call my friends because I don't feel like they want to be burdened with how I feel. This makes for a very lonely life. Right now I am trying to learn how to be happy so I can get back out in the world. Its not easy. I hope you call your friend and God Bless you for caring.
 
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January 24, 2006, 6:57 pm PST

You are so right on

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Hi:  I lost a child five years ago and I'm still dealing with the lonliness and profound loss.  It will take you a long long time to feel like you want people around all the time.  This is new to you, and sadly, people do not know what to say, so they say nothing.  I find great comfort when I share memories of my son with other people- they do feel your loss, trust me, but for some reasons, we personally feel better in our safe little coccoon, until we can smile.  I smile, but it never reaches my eyes, like before.   Sad to say, you are not the same person and now you're living the "new normal" for you. 

Take your time, be good to yourself, and grieve now, not ten years from now because it makes others uncomfortable.  Be true to yourself. 

You said it all right. I feel so much better when I can share about my daughter, and by the way her name is or was, I'm not sure how to put it any more but any how, My daughter her name is Cindy! I don't think my eyes know how to smile. I want to see them smile and I look in the mirror and it just doesn't happen. The   really sad, sad part is it doesn't happen to my husband, or my son. We are all so sad and we pretend that we are happy but in reality we aren't.  I wish we could all spend some time just remembering Cindy but right now it seems like nobody wants to even talk. If you could give me some more advice or if we could just talk that would be great. And by the way  what is your sons name. Thanks so much!  Linda 

 
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January 25, 2006, 7:23 am PST

son is accepting his illness

Good Morning, 

  I just want to share that I talked with my son yesterday and he said he is starting to feel better on the lithium and serequil. We talked about having bipolar. He asked me if he will have to be on meds for the rest of his life I told him YES. He accepted this very well. He also told me he didn't want to end up like his sister. I am super proud of him. He says he will stay in treatment as long as he needs to. I know this isn't going to be an easy road but its a start. He wants me to get all the information that Julie Fast has on her website. His therapists says this is good because they aren't really addressing the illness with Kenny they just work on the behaviors.  Today I get to take my 18 yr old in to get his license. I sure hope he passes. Baseball season is starting Monday and usually I would have to have him at practice at 5:30 in the morning and pick him up at 7:00 at night. and this goes on until the end of August. If he gets his license this will help me out tremendously. All I will have to worry about is that he gets there safe. Moms never stop worrying. Thanks for being there! 

                                                                                                   Linda 

 
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January 25, 2006, 8:46 am PST

children are the most precious thing in the world

My husband always said the only reason he would put a dog down is if it bit a child.  He meant it. Our fifteen yr old dog bit our son and it broke our haearts but he was put to sleep. It broke our hearts. This was 4 yrs ago and we still miss him to this day. But when it comes to our children they come first. Our dog wasn't even mean. He just got startled. Of course he was old. I really don't think he heard our son come up behind him. We also have grandbababies. Yes I think it is selfish to think of our feelings if one of our children can and did get hurt. CHILDREN COME FIRST NO MATTER WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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January 26, 2006, 7:46 am PST

Good Morning

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Hello 

This is my second day on the board.  Just wanted to write for something to do today...I have a 4 yr old and a 5yr old.  Both girls, and a handfull at that..Right now they are detroying my living room... 

I think I'm feeling pretty normal today, the new drugs must be doing something.. 

I feel calm.  I have to take my cat to the vet today..for a shot, he had an allergy to plastic? 

Does any one else out there have a LOT of animals, pets?I have 2 cats a dog a bunny birds and a fish.....crazy I know..... My husband says No more animals, can't really blame him....... 

I am a twin.  My sister seems a little off to me, but she insists that she (and I ) are  normal.  My family doesn't beleive in mental illness...Oh well......I'm not that close with my side of the family. 

But sometimes I feel like I have to prove to people that there is something wrong with me...Not really sure why..I guess maybe I want to talk about it with someone....? 

Anyway, I like this writing to anyone thing, and I hope I didn't bore anyone,.,bye 

Hi. Im new at this board thing too. Yes I have 2 cats, a dog, and a noisy parret. My husband always tell me no more animals too. But right now I really want a puppy. I get on this board to learn about this illness. I have a 15 yr old who right now is in a long term residential to get stablelized. Right now he is on lithium and serequil. He just started these meds 3 weeks ago. I hope they work. And by the way I have identical twin granddaughters. They are 6 yrs old.  They have a brother who is 5. They are a handful too. I am glad you feel calm today. Anyway I hope you have a good day today!
 
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January 26, 2006, 8:05 am PST

Another Day

Well, here I am another day with out my daughter. It's been 22 long months. I guess I am writing today to say how much I miss her. I hope she is resting in peace. Not much to do today, Im stuck at home all day. My 18 yr old got his license yesterday and he took my  car to school. I hope and pray he gets to all his destination safe and he always puts on his seatbelt. Well I guess I'll go now and I hope eveybody out there has a good day today.
 
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January 26, 2006, 12:18 pm PST

YOU got it all wrong

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You and your husband are absolutely heartless. You killed a 15-year old dog for getting startled and reacting??? I cannot believe the ignorance that is shown by so many people about dogs. You even admitted that your child surprised the dog. Where were you when you were supposed to be teaching the child about approaching the dog?? To make a blanket statement that any dog who bites a child should be killed makes me so angry!! I don't know why people would think a dog is supposed to take whatever is done to it without being allowed some kind of reaction. Children taunt, abuse, hit, kick, pull and otherwise do not respect dogs, we have to teach them that. Every single person who has written that a dog should be automatically put down if it bites a child NO MATTER WHAT (the child did to the dog) is unfortunately going to breed the same ignorance in their children. Their children will obviously not learn the beauty of having a dog. What's more, people who have that attituide should not be allowed to have a dog in the first place. It's really a shame for dogs, and for those children.
Our dog was very respected and loved. When he first stared getting old my husband told our children DON'T MAKE ME HAVE TO PUT MY DOG DOWN. My son who  got bit was 10 yrs old. The thing is the dog was going deaf and was having a hard time  of seeing. He also was getting arthritis in his back hips. We actually did him a favor he was in so much confusion and pain. We're just sorry we waited till he bit. He felt bad, my son was heartbroken. Sometimes old dogs need to be put down instead of suffering. We now have his son who is king of our house now and is very loved and respected.
 
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January 27, 2006, 8:54 am PST

grief is confusing

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Hi Linda:  How old was your daughter Cindy?  I don't know if you're a reader but one book I read was "I'd Rather Laugh", by Linda Richman ( her daughter is married to Mike Myers of SNL).  She lost a son and had so many bad things happen to her.  Now she gives inspirational talks - lots of common sense. 

 I would suggest you talk and talk about your daughter. Keep her in your everyday life, in your thoughts, remember all that you can.  One day you will see how much she has done and is still doing for you.  Pain and suffering have an odd way of taking our minute-to-minute joys away.  You can choose to remember her always, and let no one take that away from you.  One thing I know is that my love for my son is always a part of me.  He'd want me to continue filling up my days and finding joy.  Cry and feel your loss as it is a very big one.  You will be okay today, tomorrow, and the next day--one day at a time..  I care. 

My little girl was 23 yrs old. She had been diagnosed with bipolar. She had fought so hard to find happiness. She had attempted suicide 5 times in her short life.She finally had had enough March 16, 2004. She succeeded this time. She was a perfectionist. There were't very many people who truly knew her. She lived a state away from me at the time of her death. She left behind a husband (who she wanted to divorce), and identical twin girls age 6 and a little boy who is now 5. She had a full time managers job also. She had a full plate. She got really tired. this has really put a strain on the ones she left behind. I want to be angry sometimes. But I don't give myself the satisfaction. I don't know why. Somedays I'm afraid to feel I'm fraid I will fall apart. My family wants and expects me to keep everything running smoothly. You see they fell apart. I have 3 Boys. Every one of them have been suicidal since Cindy's death. My 23 yr old is currently in jail serving a 90 day probation violation sentence and has a hold from another agency.  My 18 yr old is always angry and takes it out on me. He asked me the other day if I would make him  an appointment so he can get back on meds for depression. My 15 yr old is currently in residential treatment for pouring gas on himself last month and wanting to set himself on fire. He was also diagnosed with bipolar disorder. My husband is now a workaholic. It seems like my family has just fell apart. The only safe place I feel I can talk about Cindy is on this message board. Nobody else wants to face her death they are all running from it. I choose to remember her smiling face, her laughter, the long talks we had on the phone. I want to remember all the good memories. Not how she died and the pain she was going thru to have done this tragic act. I also believe she is resting comfortly in Gods arms. Thank you so much for letting me get some of this out.  Grief is an overwelming emotion. Thanks again, Linda
 
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January 27, 2006, 12:29 pm PST

such a familar story

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My lifehas not always been in the light. Living until the age of 27 years old with undiagnosed rapid cycling bipolar disorder felt like living on a roller coaster which went from tunnel to above ground and back into the tunnel for long periods of time.

I was a masterful actress who acted out the scenes of my life with gusto but inside was just a person going through the motions of what I thought was expected of me. As such, I was a happy teenager blessed with a wonderful, loving family, who received straight A's at school, attended church and appeared to enjoy life. The real person was a teenager who struggled with life but thought that everyone else around me was just more adept at coping with life.

My teenage years were full of internal turmoil; I ran away from home twice, contemplated suicide on more than one occasion and remember laying my head down on my arms in American Government class to cry.

The outside girl was successful, beautiful, intelligent and was a leader in her school and friendships. I was a member of the National Honor Society, editor of the yearbook, in track and graduated with honors from high school.

The bipolar dragon

The bipolar dragon reared its ugly head when I attended college in southern California only I didn't know what was happening. I missed weeks of classes at a time, staying in bed most of the day only to get up and drag myself to dinner with my friends down at the dining commons.

One professor was so concerned about me that he called me to see how I was doing and I believe he even turned my name into the Dean of Students who also called to see if there was anything she could do to help. I went from sitting in the front row of class to lounging in the back row.

Enter alcohol.

After the first taste of a wine cooler on a beach one night with friends, I was hooked. I drank more than any of my friends the very first time indulging in this form of self-medication. I had a taste of what I felt was relief from the turmoil inside me and I wanted more. Often I'd talk a friend into going with me to the neighborhood bar and grill with the offer to buy them food if they'd drive me home. Long Island Iced Tea was my favorite and I drank my new friend down with style.

"Hi, my name's Mindy and I'm an alcholic."

My life was unraveling and spinning out of control and all I did was hang on during that period of time. Others around me knew that I had a problem with drinking before I did. One wonderful friend took me to the beach one day and told me her story about being an alcoholic and asked me if I'd like to go to an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting that night. Standing up in the large room of strangers and announcing to the world that I was an alcoholic was both one of the scariest things that I've ever done and one of the most courageous. My friendships with fellow recovering alcoholics and my sponsor kept me focused enough to graduate college.

Stress, corporate life and falling off the wagon

After finding a job that I liked I realized how much it stressed me out and asked for a couple of weeks off. During that time I became more contemplative, often spending hours upon hours in the local park writing in my journal. Poetry would flow out of my pen as well as my deepest, most private thoughts about what was happening to me. During this time, I threw aside my years of sobriety and would drink in my bed every night before I went to sleep.

I had a plan to kill myself

When my thought process went from thinking about suicide to actually planning out how to do it, a sane moment took over and I knew that I needed help and that I needed it immediately. Not knowing quite where to turn, I discussed it with my physician who suggested that I be an inpatient at a psychiatric hospital here in town. I knew that was the safest place for me because during my sane moments I realized that I didn't really want to die, I just wanted to stop feeling the way that I did.

My roller coaster life had begun at age 27

I was not surprised when I was diagnosed having rapid cycling bipolar disorder.Medication has helped me through the ups and downs but doesn't eliminate them. I struggled with the fact that I had to take medicine to be "normal." Who was I really? the person whose behaviors and head got them into trouble or the person when on medicine was quite fun to be around. During this initial time, I would go off my medication as a form of rebellion I think. Down the spiral to the bottom would I go.

"If this is most likely genetic, can I pass this on to my children one day?"

I remember asking the doctor who told me my diagnosis. I distinctively remember tears running down my cheeks as I realized this. Since college, I have met and married my best friend and gave birth to two wonderful daughters, ages 3 1/2 and 14 months.

On a scale of 1-10, 1 being contemplating suicide and 10 being you won the lottery, how would you rate yourself? 

I hear this on each and every visit to my psychiatrist. I've learned that no matter how low the number, I must confess my true number despite a great urge to do otherwise. There have been numerous times over the past years that I have contemplated suicide but now know to reach out for help when the crazy thoughts come into my head.

 OH MY! OH MY! what a familar story. You just wrote the story of my daughters life. But sadly hers ended at the age of 23. She also led the perfect life. The perfect person, the perfect student, the perfect daughter, the perfect friend,the perfect person. On the inside she was just a sad and terrified person. She also went to church and did everything that was expected of her ( or so she thought ). She also turned to the self medicating treatment. She had me come up to Washington for her 21st birthday (I alive in Oregon). I couldn't believe it. She walked up to the bartender and ordered a shot of Jack Daniels with a beer chaser. The rest of the night she drank Long iland ice tea. It was the first time I have ever heard of them. I  admit they are good. I was so glad I was there to take care of her because by the end of the night she was on all outside on all fours puking. She was also diagnosed with bipolar. She did really well on lithium. But she decided she didn't need it anymore. She went on to using ecxtisy That did it. Her life was so out of control. She chased happiness in all the wrong directions. You are very lucky to have people in you life to care enough to be honest with you. I didn't know alot that was going on with my daughter. We talked all the time But of course She was still the perfect mom and daughter. She hid things very well. 6 months before she committed suicide she told me I didn't have to worry she would never do that! She had attempted 5 other times. I believed her! She left behind 3 children. Identical twin girls they are now 6yrs old and a 5 yr old boy. I AM SO PROUD OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!  You are being a survivior. I am so glad for you and your family. You hang in there! This illness can be controlled and it starts with you and you are doing it. You are a 10! Wish you good days in the future!     Linda
 
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January 27, 2006, 12:49 pm PST

Just wanted to say HEY!

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Hello everyone, 

Well, I'm doing a little bit better today.  I had a surgical procedure done on Wednesday...hope it works.  But the area was quite sore Wed & Thurs...it's a little sore today.  I will have a repeat procedure done on the right side on the 9th of February.  I hope it all works and decreases my pain, the doctor said I won't sense any change for 3 to 6 weeks...but, it will last 9 months to a year. 

My daughter called the other day...her boss asked who she was talking to...she answered...my mom...she's my best friend...I'm addicted to her.  That felt good.   

My other doctor who took care of me after surgery...pulled out of picture of the three of us...she says look how gorgeous you are...then she said do you know what's different from this picture and now?  I said age...she said no...your face says your in pain...when that goes away you are going to be gorgeous like this...I giggled at her. 

As difficult as they were in the past...look how great things are now...these are the days I have been waiting for. 

Not all sure what is going on with you guess I need to go back furthure on the board and read more. I'm glad you are still able to get on the board. Your replies mean alot to me. Hope to talk to you soon. Wishing you the best.         Linda
 

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