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January 6, 2006, 5:04 am PST

Demons are real

I guess everyone who says that this isn't real, or is 100% psychological have never really experienced it. Sorry, but mental problems don't make things fly off tables and smash into a wall. Mental problems don't change the temperature in a room. Mental problems don't create apparitions that several people can see...everyone seeing it without any prior suggestion.  I have been touched, paralyzed, and even strangled by things I cannot see.  

  

Sure, one can say that it is all in my head or there is a physiological cause for it.  I used to think that, too. I had medical tests including EEG to rule out some type of seizure, but everything came back normal. That leaves psychological. I do have post traumatic stress disorder and Dissociative Identity disorder. If you don't know what that is, I wont try to explain it here.  That said, I will say that SOME of the physical symptoms could be attributes to dissociated body memories/abreactions.  But I know that some of them are not.  

  

I am a survivor of satanic abuse as a child and have a history of satanism.  It is absolutely real. I find it odd that many Christians believe in angels and miracles, but they don't believe in demons or curses.  A lot of people who believe they are cursed, really are not. But that certainly does not mean that NOBODY is tormented by evil or by curses. One thing I will say is that whether or not it is real for an individual, the only way to know for sure is by finding a good therapist who believes in the possibility of spiritual oppression.  

  

Read books, talk to pastors...get a lot of opinions. If it becomes clear that you do need deliverance/exorcism, for petes sake do NOT let just anybody who calls themself an exorcist work with you.  You will wind up worse off than before!!  I know because it has happened to me.  I have yet to find someone reputable who understands both dissociation and spiritual warfare. I have to believe that there is someone somewhere, otherwise there is no hope for me.  

 
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January 6, 2006, 9:06 am PST

01/05 "Am I Cursed?"

Quote From: olivetree7

Hello.  I am praying for you right now that God will open your heart and mind to what it is I'm going to tell you.  There is hope for you.  Are you a Christian?  I believe that curses are real. Deut. 30 :19.  I believe that  demonic possession is real.  The Bible clearly states that these are real.  If you believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is the son of God, that he was crucified and died on the cross for the redemption of your sins, was resurrected on the third day and ascended to the Father, you have taken the first step into salvation.  You must be baptized in water in the Name of Jesus.  By this I mean that you must be submerged into water, representing your sinful flesh being put to death with Christ on the cross, and then resurrected into newness of life through Christ.  Jesus was God in the flesh.  When he ascended to the Father, he sent the Holy Spirit to dwell in us as our comforter.  Ask for the Holy Spirit to dwell inside you.  Seek his word daily by reading the Bible, knock and the door shall be opened to you. Find a good Bible based church to attend regularly.  Satan and his fallen angels have no power over you if you are a son of God. Just as curses and demons are real so are BLESSINGS and ANGELS.  Perfect love casts away fear. GOD is LOVE.  Jesus defeated death, hell, and the grave at the cross.  Walk in that victory.  Find a friend who can pray with you.  Someone who is also in agreement with the word.  Where two or three are gathered in his name(JESUS), there is he in the midst of them. Cast these demonic spirits that torment you back into the pits of hell where they belong. Remember them no more in Jesus name.  I'll be praying for you.  If you sincerely want help , here it is.  I know it works, don't take my word for it but try it.  You'll see with new eyes and hear with new ears.

You don't know what Dissociative Identity Disorder is, do you?  Some of your suggestions are out of reach right now because I lose time. I don't choose it, it just happens. I am a Christian and have already been baptized. Also been through Neil Andersons "steps to freedom".  I've been to every ministry within driving distance, and you would not believe the stuff I've been through with them.  I cannot attend church right now. Long story.  Besides, every christian church I've tried to attend has asked me to leave before long.   Suffice it to say that they don't believe me.  

  

 I find people who believe in dissociation, but not spiritual oppression...and I can find people who believe in oppression, but not dissociation.  In other words, either shrinks dismiss any discussion of spiritual things and say its ALL in my head. OR churches who say it is ALL spiritual and do not believe in DID.  Sometimes the right kind of help is not available so all one can do is function as best as they can.  I don't bother trying to make friends anymore because they can't handle knowing the truth about me.  

 
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January 12, 2006, 5:49 am PST

It has destroyed my life and made me a freak

I won't bother getting into what happened to me because I'll just get too upset anyway. I don't remember just about anything before the age of 11, but what I do remember is vile. I'll leave it at that.  I have post traumatic stress, severe anxiety, and dissociative identity disorder. I've been in therapy for years. It actually took several years for the DID/MPD to be diagnosed, and another couple of years for me to accept that diagnosis. I had no idea before then.   

  

I can't go anywhere or do normal things. I'm jealous of people who take for granted their freedom to go places without fear. I can't have anyone behind me. I always have to be able to see an exit, and that exit has better not be blocked or else I feel trapped.  I can't stand to be touched, so I avoid doctors unless I am deathly ill. I've needed certain medical tests for a long time, and I shudder to think about them, let alone actually get them done. Certain sights, smells and sounds are triggering also. The only way to avoid freaking out (having flashbacks and/or abreactions) in public, is to just not go anywhere if I can help it. Earplugs are my best friend.  

  

 I can't tell anyone what I am dealing with because nobody understands.  I can count on one hand the number of people who know about my diagnosis, and that includes my shrinks, my doctor, my boss, and my son. Nobody else knows what a freak I really am.  

 
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January 12, 2006, 1:44 pm PST

*sigh*

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 You are not a freak. I may not know what your diagnosis is but I to have been abused as a child by my stepmother. She to was mentally, physically and verbally abusesive. Just take it one day at time. And keep talking about it. It will get easier as time goes by. But you need to keep talking about it to people who understand. I hope that one day you will feel better and you are in my thoughts and my prayers. S.K.
DID is the new and improved name for multiple personality disorder.  This isn't something that just goes away by pressing on. No medication helps either. It just keeps getting worse.
 
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January 13, 2006, 9:07 am PST

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Quote From: helpless24

I have a freind who has DID and she seems to be doing well with her meds and she seems happy and productive  I hope this helps and If you need to talk I am here

  

A lot of people confuse DID/MPD with schizophrenia - are you sure your friend has DID? DID is not a chemical/physiological disorder and is not treatable with meds like schizophrenia can be. Or is she taking the medications for a secondary diagnosis such as depression or anxiety?   

  

I assume that she is in therapy and has a good support system in place (family and/or friends).  I don't have that - only my shrink.  Is your friend coconscious?  I'm not at all.  I'm glad your firend is happy and productive.  Some people with DID are more functional than others because of the various degrees... 

 
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January 16, 2006, 9:04 am PST

I agree

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I got Sharons age wrong.  She was 9 when she was forced to go through an excorcism.  Not that I think two years makes one bit of difference.  It still explains all her feelings of guilt, fear, and shame. 

  

And before I get a rebuttal post from countrycow explaining how all Sharon needs is to accept Jesus into her heart, please allow me to continue with my thoughts on this.  

  

 Like Sharon, I too was abused at the hands of the religious.  Not near as drastic as her, but still...  Like all abuse survivors, I too felt the fear guilt and shame.  For years and years and years and years.  No amount of religious counsel ever took that completley away.    The only way I was ever able to heal was with psychological help.  Understanding my feelings.  Learning why I had them.  Knowing I was not alone.  Learning how to change my thinking and how to heal.  Being told over and over and over again, until it finally started sinking in, that I was not evil.  I was a child!  An innocent!  Just as Sharon was.  Even worse for Sharon, not only did she carry the burden of childhood abuse by thinking she was bad and unworthy and filled with guilt fear and shame, she was TOLD she was all these things by a religious power.  Her father.  

  

 She needs to be UNtold all of this.  Over and over and over, by someone who wont get into all the possible "evil" in the world, but who will stick with the psychological effects children who are abused are left to suffer with.  If after all of this, she still has a desire to seek out religous/ spiritual help, then by all means!  But at this point, I for one, think poor Sharon has been put through enough at the hands of religion and is now in need of one hell(againpun intended) of a good psychologist.  JMO 

I agree with momisme about responding to people like Sharon with stuff like "Jesus is the only way", and all the hellfire and damnation things that Christians like to say. Saying those things to people who were repeatedly abused in the name of Jesus does nothing more than reinforce the trauma the person experienced. Children have it drilled into their heads that if they are bad they will go to hell, that the bad things being done are because Jesus loves them, etc.  

  

While my abuse in the name of Jesus was not the same as Sharons, the effects are similar.  Love hurts. Jesus hurts. and because it hurts, I'm going to hell. Or am I? This verse in the bible says one thing - that I am going to heaven. But somewhere else it says I'm going to hell, so why try figuring it out? It is just too much. 

 
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January 17, 2006, 1:52 pm PST

That is love?

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hello,   people  that are lost and don't know jesus.  needs jesus..   people  that think  christians   are  ones that put  people down.  christians  don't do that.  a true christian  don't..   a true christian  has love in their hearts and tell the truth  about  jesus christ  and jesus word..   they witness to others about jesus.    a true christian  loves others and tell them the truth..  a false christian  says they are but don't have jesus in their  hearts.   too  be a true christian  you have too have him in your heart and fully live for him...   

Listen, I know that you mean well, but you are missing the point entirely. What is love? Is it trivializing and dismissing the things that people have gone thrugh, telling them to just get Jesus and get over it? It isn't that simple, and you talking like that is NOT showing compassion and love. It is saying "I don't care how you feel. Just get over it.  By the way Jesus loves you" 

  

You have absolutely ZERO concept of what cult abuse does to children. What happens when all a child knows for the first decade of their life is that "Love" means having sex, and the person that tells them that calls themself "Jesus".  And that telling is a sin. And that sinners die and go to hell. And if you are bad, your pet will be killed to. And maybe your baby brother too. That is all that child knows - terror. There is no place to escape and no safe people.   

  

Would you go up to that child and start telling them they have to love Jesus or else they are going to hell? Think about how that child would hear it. Remember - they have NO concept of the "real" Jesus. Just telling them that the other one was really the devil isn't going to help. Just telling them that Jesus is really a good guy isn't going to help.  

  

They have had years and years being shown and learning the opposite. They also need to be SHOWN the opposite over and over again. Not just told. This isn't something that just goes away by saying a little prayer. I have Dissociative Identity Disorder (Multiple Personality). The damage runs deeper than you know. I can rationalize all the words you just said, but there are parts of me who cannot. They are still terrified of Jesus. Terrified.  

  

You can sit there all day and say "well thats a lie get that lie out of your head and believe Jesus loves you before it is too late. I don't want you to go to hell".  But I have to tell you that saying those words without compassion of any kind is just plain cruel.  Did the real Jesus just preach about goodness, or did he practice it as well? 

 
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January 19, 2006, 1:34 pm PST

You just dont get it

Quote From: countrycow

well   i am   going  to write  some   verses from   the bible!!!    its   true  today  as it was then,,    let  not  your heart be troubled  ye  believe  in god,  believe  also  in  me.  in my fathers house are  many   mansions. if  it were not so  i would have told you.  i  go  to  prepare a place  for  you.  and  if i go  and  prepare a place for you   i will  come again  and receive you  unto  myself.   i  am  the  way, the truth and the life  no man cometh unto the  father but by me..   this is on page  633  chapter 14.      well   this  is true   and   people need jesus!
Whatever, countrycow. You are driving people away from your God. Just like that girls father who forced her into an exorcism. He abused her with Jesus, and look how it damaged her! You are doing the same thing now. You have no idea how mean spirited you sound.
 
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January 23, 2006, 6:12 am PST

Generational curses

I do believe in generational curses. Even the bible acknowleges generational iniquity. I have ancestors connected to the salem witch trials, and several generations of occult involvement. My great grandmother was a witch, and an uncles family who are still practicing satanists. Take that bizarre family and marry into another bizarre family to add in the Children of God cult, to make for some pretty messed up kids coming from that union.   

  

So yeah, I may be considered a crazy person because I have DID/MPD, but I'm not talking about just "perceived" curses, but all out attacks. Light bulbs blowing up, things flying of tables, glass in picture frames cracking for no reason - haunting type of stuff happens all the time, no matter where I live.  It is real.  

 
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January 23, 2006, 1:35 pm PST

DID/MPD

Quote From: dlynn_pa

What is DID/MPD????
It is Dissociative Identity Disorder - formerly known as Multiple Personality Disorder.  I'm a mess. And it is pretty much impossible to ignore it as other posters suggest to get over it. I mentioned it only to say that I have other evidence of curses, physical signs, etc. But I don't bother bringing those things up because they can be ruled out as abreactions/flashbacks.  I'd like people who don't believe in curses to explain how thinking positively will stop things from happening that cannot be ruled out as being in ones mind, though.  Like things that other people can witness like doors slamming by themselves and the stuff I mentioned earlier. Thinking happy thoughts wont affect that!
 

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