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January 7, 2006, 4:27 pm PST

No relationship until debt free?

On Friday's show, Deann said that she did not believe that she should begin a relationship until her debt is paid off.  This issue was not addressed by Dr. Phil.  I would be very interested in hearing what others have to say on this subject.  I understand how she feels.  I am a single woman and have been on my own for many years.  I take pride in my independence.  The last few years have been filled with financial hard knocks for me.  I am so embarrassed to be in my financial situation.  I am dating, but do not let them know about the debt that I have.  I feel dishonest by not disclosing this information.  I would want to know if they were in the same situation.  I am working hard and doing everything possible to get out of this situation.  It will be several years before I can pay off my debt on my own.  Does this mean I shouldn't be dating? 
 
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January 10, 2006, 11:25 am PST

Love Cruise

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It's not on the "Be On The Show"  boards   It is twords the bottom of the home page with a big heart and says "Be a Guest" Under that it says "Be Chosen for Dr. Phil's Love Cruise"  You should be able to see it. 

  

Talk to you soon 

  

Cindy 

I am trying to find information on the Love Cruise also.   I can see it on the home page, but it's not something that can be "clicked on" for further information.   Can you help me too? 

Thank you! 

 
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January 12, 2006, 4:58 pm PST

Singles Cruise

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Well, I know you can't click on the "heart", but what I did is click on a subject and say I really don't have a problem, but I would like to go on the cruise, along with most of the "Tired of Being Single" group.  Please pick me. 

  

So that's what I did.  Don't know if it will get me on the cruise, but I tried. 

  

Talk to you later 

  

Cindy 

Thank you!  I hope you get on the cruise! 

  

Cindie 

 
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January 12, 2006, 5:03 pm PST

No relationship until debt free?

I posted this question under a different topic, but received no input.  Perhaps I was in the wrong place.  I'm trying again here.

  

 

Recently on Dr. Phil there was a show with Star Jones about people that can't quite get it together.  There was a guest named Deann that didn't think she shouldn't start a relationship until she got out of debt.  She was given advice for getting out of debt, but the initial concern was not addressed.  I find myself in this situation and would like to know how others feel about this.  I have had several years filled with big financial hits which were beyond my control.  I was well on my way to being debt free before this.  I now find myself deeply and embarrassingly in debt.  I am dating, but do not let anyone know about the debt that I have.  I am doing my best to pay off my debt, but it will take many years.  I have been single for many years and financially independent.  I am 50 years old and do not want to spend the rest of my life alone because of bad luck that I have endured.  I feel dishonest by not letting my dates know about my financial situation.  I would want to know if they were in this situation.  I do not expect anyone to pay this off for me.  This is my debt and I will handle it.  But does this mean that I shouldn't get involved with someone until my debt is paid off?  The thought of that makes it all worse.

  

 

Thank you for "listening".  I really would appreciate your thoughts.....

  

 

 
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March 1, 2006, 10:23 am PST

Debt

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A couple of things.......     1).  I would bring it up on the first date.......in fact, I wouldn't until the conversation turned to jobs, money, buying a house, and that sort of thing....There's no need to share your situation unless the relationship seems like it is very possibly getting serious....     2).  I would seriously consider Bankruptcy.  Yes it sucks, but many times it situation like medical debt, where the price is so high, you'll never be able to pay it off, or maybe the credit card companies just kept pushing more credit on you, then when you missed a payment, or got near max, they socked you with high interest payments....in which case,  the hell with them, they ultimately must bear some of the responsibility and loss.....I mean if you had to start over with no possessions and no credit, just your current job, and an apartment, would you be happier, and healthier/.  If so then I would seriously look into it, but again....I have no idea where this debt came from.  If it is simply overindulgence, then you need to start selling your stuff on ebay and applying it directly to your balances....I should know, that's about where I am right now....Hammer44

Hi Hammer, 

  

Thank you for replying.  I have looked at all of my options, consulted my attorney, and the best option just seems to be to continue as I am.  I have a roommate to help pay off the debt, I drive an old car (no car payments for over 12 years now), I very rarely go out .... at all.  I can't file bankruptcy because I own a home and the equity is too high.  However, if I sell my home, I would not gain enough to pay off the debt.  If I sold anyway and paid my debt down as far as I could, it would actually cost me more monthly to rent an apartment than I am currently paying on my mortgage. 

  

Did I say that I am very embarrassed by this situation?  I have been financially responsible all of my life.  I have even helped friends with financial problems - with advice, not money.  Then along comes the wrecking ball and just hit me dead center.  I had a plan to be totally debt free and was working toward this end.  And the plan was working very well!  Then, I had to go on an extended sick leave.  I had a back injury from many years ago that I could not live with any longer.  I had to have surgery.  I had good insurance, but still had costs involved.  While I was out of work on disability, my job was eliminated.  The other employees received a severance pay, but because this happened while I was on disability, I was not entitled to severance pay.  So .... I went from disability to unemployment.  I am no longer able to work a regular job.  I can't sit all day and can't stand all day either.  I must do a combination of the 2.  I have been in the same field for 20 years now and cannot get anyone to seriously consider me for another field.  I am currently working as an independent contractor from home.  The company that I am working with is not sending enough leads to me for me to meet the quota, so my commision percentage just got cut.  And .... did I mention that I got hit by lightning last year?  Have to laugh.  It is just absolutely ludicrous! 

  

Thank you all for listening to me again.  I am trying to keep a positive attitude.  Very difficult!  But being negative doesn't help.  It just makes the bad seem worse! 

  

Oh ... and this is just part of it.  Friends, family .... just more problems.  Gotta keep smiling though!  Sometimes I feel like I must be insane.  But if this is true, then I'm just ahead of the curve.  They can't make you crazy if you already are! 

  

Chace   

  

 
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March 1, 2006, 11:50 am PST

Read your profile?

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 I can't believe I'm posting for the 3rd time in one day, but here I am again. It's just me, wuvinlife again ,wondering how many of you out there get responses from men who have obviously not read your profile? Even though I'm working on a potential positive relationship with guy #1 i still read e-mails and winks that come in. First off, let me say that I live in Georgia. About 30 minutes east of Atlanta.  I say in my profile that I'm looking for guys within a 50 mile radius of my city.  So how come today I got two e-mails from two different guys that thought we "would be a good match", but one lives in Chicago, Illinois and the other in Tuscon, Arizona? I'm not the brightest bulb on the tree, but last time I checked my geography I think both places were definitely more than 50 miles from me.  Then I get an e-mail from a guy who is specifically looking for a Caucasian woman. Once again, did you read my profile? How about looking at my picture? I'm very obviously mixed. Duh!!! It even says it in my profile.  Then there's the guys who don't want divorcee's or women with children.  I'm both.  Tell me I'm not the only one out here who is getting these crazy responses. I would love to hear anyone else's stories. I can't help but wonder, if these guys aren't even reading profiles, then how much attention do they pay to a woman when she's actually in their face? Is it any wonder that they're single???......

Hi!  I have to share one of my online date experiences with you.  There have been many, but this one goes right to the heart of your question. 

Usually, when I agree to meet someone in person from a dating site, I look their profile over again before meeting them.  Just recently I met one of these men for drinks and the conversation was progressing nicely.  I ordered red wine and he ordered white zinfandel.  His profile stated that a perfect first date was sharing a bottle of red wine .... so I asked him why the white zin?  He gave me a puzzled look and just said that he likes to change up from time to time.  No biggie.  The conversation continued and I asked him where he learned Spanish and does he get to use it often.  He looked at me like I was crazy.  His profile stated that he spoke English and Spanish.  He asked me where I was getting this information and I told him from his profile.  His response?  Ahhhhh... from my profile....   Needless to say, that was our one and only date. 

It's bad enough when someone doesn't read your profile, but to not even know what their own profile says?  That just takes the cake! 

  

Cindie 

 
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March 1, 2006, 1:08 pm PST

Online Dating

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I dated a married man too--a few years back. My theory has always been and is still now that it is the married person that made the commitment not to cheat and not the single person that chose to be with them. With that said--I will also say that i will never date a married man again but not because i don't want to hurt his wife --after all i don't know her. 

  

I think what you are looking for is some sign that you are not alone in your pain --that the two of you have a bond and now that the relationship is over the bond remains in some way--even if that the bond is now you two sharing the pain of separation together (even thoguh physically you are separated) 

  

I think he probably does think about you and that yu are now a part of him because you brought things into his life. I also think, from my exprience, that you will hear from him again. but remember--he started this relationship with you while he was in a marriage --a marriage that he wasn't going to give up. You were looked upon as a separate relationship he was having rather than a replacement for the one he has in his marriage. On the other hand--he was your relationship. These are 2 different things. I think he is leing by telling you that he is only in his marriage for the children--to me its apparent that he wants the marriage. Many people leave a marriage that has children and this guy is not maryter--after all he was willing to cheat on his wife. I think we want to believe that the guy cares and loves us more than he loves the other woman (wife) but the truth is he loved her enough to marry her and not leave her when the going got tough. This does not mean he doesn't have feeling for you--he does--but that shouldn't be enough for you. You deserve better than giving a relationship to someone who won't give it back. he has a home a family a marriage and you. You jut have him when its convienent for him . My advice is stay away from the marrieds --they want thier cake and eat it too and have no idea what it is like being single anymore--they think its all fun and games. If that doesn't convince you--i'll give you advice my mother used to give to me---If a married man will cheat on his wife for you then when you are the wife he will chat on you! 

Wow!  Seems that you are saying it's not a problem to date a married man and hurt his wife because you don't know her?  So .... perfectly okay to hurt people you don't know and destroy their lives. 

I'll say it again .... WOW!!! 

  

Cindie 

 
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March 3, 2006, 9:06 am PST

"Stepping out"

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 I went out with woman that was married and did not know it until the 2nd date...I quickly ended that one...walked away from the table very disgusted.  Gender does not matter and I really have no time for those games...

Good for you!  I have to wonder how people are able to do that and be comfortable with themselves.  I believe in karma .... what goes around comes around.  How can people behave in such a shameful way and expect good things in their lives?  We must treat people the way we would like to be treated.  We may not always get it, but at least we can feel good about ourselves.  I like to be able to look at myself in the mirror without being ashamed of the decisions I have made and the actions that I have taken.  I am not saying that I am perfect or that it is easy .... far from it. 

  

Cindie 

 

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