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May 29, 2006, 3:37 pm PDT

Fault

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No I didn't know it was wrong. That doesn't mean it's not my fault.

We are guilty and it is our fault IF we know better.  

 

You did not know it was wrong.  

You are not guilty.  

 

Right? 

 
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May 30, 2006, 2:45 am PDT

Childhood Sexual Abuse

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Hey, I need some help. A few months ago I started trying to deal with something, and right now I'm not sure how to. When I was younger (8 or 9) a family member told me to do something with them but I didn't know it was wrong. I started thinking about it a few months ago, and now I don't know how to deal with it... I don't know whether to feel guilty or to be frustrated.

Not knowing how old you are now, if you are under age, you can call the CPS in your area. Jump in the phone book and look or jump on line for your area. If you are an adult then there should be support groups in your area also. Local mental health agencies usually know of groups that meet and are normally free. Not dealing with the past will only tear you apart. Life is to short to let that happen. Your last post left me a little confused. Can you elaborate? Or are you still uncomfortable in speaking up?   

Nora 

 
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May 30, 2006, 3:01 am PDT

Just been reading.....

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what's the matter with people these days, don't they have a sense of right and wrong?  Michael's mother is an unprincipled, selfish whiner.  She's actually a criminal, abandoning her ten year old child to whatever fate may befall him...sexual predators, slave traders, you name it.  So what, so she had an "abusive" childhood.  so did my mother, whose parents were alcoholics and drug addicts and were dead by the time she was twelve, they would leave her and her younger sister alone for days at a time, while they partied.  So my mother always made sure she looked after us well.  you see, it's possible to make choices in this life.  Well, looks like Michael's mother made a choice too, and a very ignorant and cruel one at that.  Michael is a good man who has resolved to treat his children well. He has suffered great abuse at the hands of his ignorant mother, yet he doesn't go around whining, expecting to be excused from knowing the difference between right and wrong.  His mother doesn't deserve such a son.  Hmmm, perhaps that's why she ditched him. anyway, she's only his biological mother.  His real mother is the foster/adoptive parent who stood by him.

I have been reading the thread here and I can understand how agitating this subject can be for people. Maybe it's just having a long weekend  or church was just that good on Sunday! I feel more content today than normal. LOL..... 

  

but for every person that has hurt us in some way there seems to be two good persons or more in return. Mike has a wonderful family. Parents that took him in and taught him what a good family is. Which blossomed into love, caring, a family of his own with a beautiful wife and children.  WOW! How can any one say there's not a God out there.........this is an awesome group of people here........just my two cents....... 

Nora 

 
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May 30, 2006, 3:16 am PDT

Nancy & Madelyn

It's great to see that the two of you can come together and be a family. Madelyn you spoke up when I know it had to be hard but you did it! And Nancy, to believe in your daughter tells me that you are a great mother. You both are an inspiration to everyone out there! Thank you!  

God Bless........ 

 
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May 30, 2006, 9:54 am PDT

CPS.....?

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What's the CPS?

OPPS! Sorry everyone........CPS=Child Protective Services 

  

Sorry I was doing my volunteer thingie. I try and help out giving my time at the food bank. We are also working on a quilt to auction off in September, so that's where I have been this AM.  

  

Wow! Miss Dramamama.....Thank You SOOOOO much for the vote of confidence. I have been at this for over 20 years and if I can help just one person, then I feel that I have done my best in this crazy world. I want to get back into helping my town. When I lived in the bigger city close to me, I wrote a few articles and appeared on TV to help others. I caught some static from those who didn't want to hear it. But I caught tremendous applaud from professionals in that town that thought it was about time for someone to speak up. I hate to see others suffer if I have something that can help them.......I think we are a great bunch here! Pats for all!  

  

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May 31, 2006, 7:45 am PDT

Another step forwards...

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I don't know. I need to at least tell her that I am going to talk to someone tomorrow, to do some counselling, because she doesn't even know I set that up, and she's going to be worried when I do tell her that, because I can't tell her what it's about right now. Not yet. I don't know. She's going to freak. I'll probably get in trouble.

Cisco, It's nice to see that you have taken another step forwards in helping yourself. I am proud of you. When you are ready to tell your mom, you may be able to have the assistance of your counselor with you. I helped a teen one time tell her mom she was pregnant. We addressed it in a way that Mom didn't feel as if we were all against her. Mom took it very well. If your mother is unable to accept this, it is not your fault. She has to accept that you need to do this for you, not her. Stress to her that you would like her support. If she is unable to give it, that's OK to. She may freak, she may not. But knowing that you have taken that big step in seeking some one to help you is just exciting in my book. It's a big step that we all have done or have wanted to do. You are on your way. It wont be easy all the time, but later on when you look back and hold your head up high, you will be proud of who you are. You have a lot of support here, lean on us........  )))))HUGS((((( 

Nora 

 
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May 31, 2006, 8:01 am PDT

I'd take Victoria in a heart beat!

I was so up set after yesterdays show. I still have a headache. I would have stood up in the middle of the show and volunteered to take over raising Victoria. She is a beautiful young girl that deserves more than what she is getting. Her sister is is going to have a difficult life also. Mom does not realize what she is doing to both of these girls. We don't know because of the time element of the show what is going on with the other family members. She mentioned something about a step brother. A new husband? What do they think? What about dad? SO many questions and not enough time. I wander in my mind if this Mom was treated like this also and this is the only behavior she knows. The damage she is doing will mar this precious little girl for life. I feel bad for all of them, even the mother.  

 

My foster parents always introduced their son as "our son and this is our FOSTER DAUGHTER". Like they were doing me a favor. It made me feel second hand. My mother still to this day insults me, but thats OK. I realize that she can't help who she is. I'm not here to please her, I'm here to please God. But it is hard to understand why people have to do this to little children........it's the one thing I may never understand....why hurt little Innocent children....? 

 
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June 3, 2006, 12:14 pm PDT

To "A concerned Mother"

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On the show of Michael there was a website that was given to find Child Predators in the areas we may live in. I was wondering if anyone knows that website. Thanks A Bunch 

A Concerned Mother 

  

Is this the one you are referring to? It aired in May, 2006. 

  

  

  

familywatchdog.us. 

 
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June 5, 2006, 4:20 am PDT

Post & Vent....

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 Hello all, 

         just wanted to post and vent alittle.I T WEIRD that when someone gets molested as a child.They are the ones that get the brunt of  the whole stupid situation.Victims have to live the rest of their life with rotten nightmares and it hurts.I was molested when i was 5 and it still seems so real to me and that it just happened yesterday.My brother(the one who molested me)is dead now and i just feel that i am left with this big knot in my stomach.Its just so not fair sometimes that a person can treat a child so bad and just leave this earth just like that,without no remorse.Yes he did kill himself because of what happened,but hes dead now and who gets hurt.Sometimes i think i should never of said a word.I mean,i had it locked in my head for over 30 years.WHY DID I HAVE TO OPEN MY MOUTH,WHY?Im so mad at him cause he hurt me again.He hurt alot of people.I wonder if people think i did it to him.I knoew that some people think i shuuold of not opened my mouth,but what about me.I get freaking raped by this lunatic,and im looked at now asa freak.Is that what i am,a freak.I just dont understand life sometimes.Im the brother who killed his brother.I hate my brother for what he did to me,but people think i should just forget it.ANYONE THAT HAS BEEN MOLESTED ON THIS BOARD UNDERSTANDS WHY THAT YOU CANNOT AND WILL NOT EVER EVER FORGET.THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THE PAIN THAT YOU GO THROUGH.THEY JUST DONT UNDERSTAND 

First of all let me say that you did the right thing in speaking up. Those that feel you should have kept "it" quiet are the ones that are unable to deal with child abuse them selves. So don't ever feel that you did wrong. You are the victim here.  Do not carry others loads of guilt.  

  

Your brother carried this to his grave. He was unable to deal with what he did to you. Maybe this was his easy way out? Can't say, he is not here to answer that question. This does not mean that you can't go to the grave and talk to him. You can get angry there just as easy as if he were there in front of you.  

  

Seek out a counselor and a support group in your area. Start a journal of how you feel, even on the days that you are feeling great! Read it back to him at the grave. One thing I did was to write a letter to my brother. Took me several times to perfect it. I then gave it to him. He was very upset I could be so cruel! LOL......I looked him in the eyes and reminded him how cruel he was to me. We speak, but because of all this, he still has his cross to carry. I survived, he hasn't. 

  

This will take time, but understand you are not a "freak" you are one of God's children and he will not leave you. I have not forgotten what has happened to me, you are right in this aspect. But I will and do not allow it to control me any longer. Just like you some day will feel the peace that I and others on this board feel........You can do this. You are stronger than you think. And if you ever dout this, look at where you are today and look where your brother is at.......... 

God Bless..........Nora 

 
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June 5, 2006, 9:43 am PDT

AHHH DJ!

AHHH DJ! That story made me cry! Now my makeup is a mess! I'm just a lush when it comes to this type of story. You have been through a lot. But God is good and will see this through. What about SSI disability? Some drug companies now will give meds to those who can not afford them. Have you tired that? Also is there a free clinic in your area that you can go see? If you haven't tried any of these check them out. You sound like a strong individual. You will over come this and the one little stinker that keeps interfering will get back 10 fold for his bad ways! Mark my word, I have seen it happen! Take care......God Bless.....Nora
 

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