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January 25, 2006, 10:09 am PST

KABLAMMO!!!!

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 I'd alter that response just a bit. If it were my child, there would be no discussion. I'd have shot that dog on the spot!

I agree with the responder to this persons statement. I would have shot the dog or taken it to be put down. The husband obviously saw what the dog did to his beautiful daughters face and rushed her to the hospital. He loves his daughter, BUT! made a very poor decision in my opinion. As for the leaving your husband bit.....I don't think that is called for in THIS situation. ( I know every situation is different )That just seems to be a fast and easy way out of something that you never took seriously to begin with. Marriage is for better or worse AND for keeps. So are children!  

 
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January 25, 2006, 11:52 am PST

For the woman with visions!

I was a little dissapointed that Dr.Phil didn't let you finish your story about your grandmother when she was trying to tell you something. I know that people look at this kind of stuff as weird ( I have TOTALLY been there). I am not a psychic ( however it is spelled ) or medium or whatever you want to call it but I do know some things before they happen and I have also had strange encounters with stuff that people would call me crazy over. That shadow thing you were talking about? Been there, saw it, got the t-shirt. My brother and I on different occassions saw what we call a shadow man ( I also refer to it as pebble man, which I will explain in a minute ) We saw it in the house we grew up in. I was maybe....10 years old or so and I was sharing the bunk bed with my three sisters, my older sister and I were in the top bunk and my other sister on the bottom. I woke up to a strange noise in the hallway. I sat up and looked out into the hallway through our open door ( our parents didn't like our bedroom doors to be shut just in case of a fire so we could get out quickly ) and I saw a shadow of a man figure. With this shadow figure was also a shadow figure of a slingshot that he was pulling back and aiming towards me. He let it go and something hit the metal bedrail on the bed ( PING ). That scared me and I just fell back onto my bed and hid under the covers like most kids do. I don't know when, but sometime later I told my little brother about that and he told me that it happened to him too. My brother's old room had two doors to it but one was blocked off from an upright freezer for my family ( doesn't make much sense if there's a fire and the other door is blocked as well ). He said he heard something in the hallway as well one night and looked toward the door and he said the shadow man was looking at him and then ran around to the other side of the house to get to the other door to his bedroom. The shadow man climbed on top of the freezer and looked down at my brother and then used the sling shot to sling something at him also. On each occassion we woke up to find a marble on our bedroomfloors in the morning. I tend to call the shadow man pebble man because it sounded like a pebble hitting the metal bedrail when I was litlle.  

 

I think we must have some sort of 6th sense about us. I have excepted Jesus Christ into my life and He helps with through His Holy Spirit to deal with the things that are thrown at me. I try not to ask too many questions about why I see things before they happen or why is this happening to me. I just try to deal with it and I definitely do not tell many people because they look at me funny  and say I'm weird & stuff. ( except now a lot of people just read this )This is getting too long for me to be able to tell you all the things that have happened to me. I just pray and ask God to help me when something happens whether it is a vision or whatever. Too little is known about this kind of stuff because people like me don't  ( usually ) tell people about this. I would rather not have the namecalling and weird looks so I just don't tell people. Anyway.......I believe you!  He that is in me is greater than he that is in the world! Heather 

 
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January 25, 2006, 11:59 am PST

dyslexic

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Dear Dr. Phil, 

  

My husband says I have a mental disorder because I love to read.  I will give you a little background first. 

  

When we got married 14 years ago I had been alone raising 3 girls for 15 years.  I got used to working a full time job and 2 part-time jobs to take care of us.  Whenever I sat down I would go through magazines, mail or work on my embroidery. 

  

My husband does not like to read since he is dyslexic.  He works third shift and when he gets up around 4 he will do anything he has to do, around the house, then he sits and watches TV until he goes to work at 10. 

  

John wants me with him in the evenings and I want to be with him too.  Our problem comes when I want to go through my email or go through a magazine or even sew.  He feels that I must stare at the TV and do nothing else or he will turn off the TV. Number 1.  Most of the time I am not interested in a lot of the shows and sports he likes to watch.  Number 2.   I CAN do two things at once.  He says I flunk  TV. 

  

He also thinks people at work are mental because they read while they eat lunch.   

  

Is he right that I and many others he knows have a mental problem?   Am I right when I say I can do 2 things at once? 

  

Please let me know so we can settle this once and for all. 

  

Sincerely, 

  

Roberta

Cable, Ohio 

I think your husband is just saying that because he feels inadequate some way because of his disorder. You are not mental at all in my opinion. Heather
 
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February 1, 2006, 8:51 am PST

Lived it!

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My sister and I have been embarrassed for most of our lives about our parent's in ability to use a trashcan.  The junk in my parent's house has reached the point to where you ablsolutely can not move or even find a place to sit.  I recently went to their house to try and help them move forward and at least get the house to where possum will not be running around in the attic and falling through the ceiling.  There were numerous bags of beercans which they had collected for years thinking they were worth money, I threw them out onto the trashpile that was surprizingly large considdering but my mother would take them off with a degree of violence that was just disturbing.  Her dementia has become extreemly bad over the past few years and I realize that as my parents age, they will not be able to help their situation only to fall into financial ruin in a pile of junk garnished with vermin.  When they tell me that something has sentimental value I try to get them to treat it as though it realy does mean something, but htey just don't get it.  altough they say they want to move forward and create a good living environment, they will not let go.  One thing they do not understand is just because something was good once upon a time,  it is not good after it sits in the back yard and deteriorates and rusts.  There aren't enogh words to describe how bad their house has become but it is worse than any house I have seen on any "hoarding" tv show.  I guess they would feel as uncomfortable in a clean environment is I do in theirs but as they age, it has become a danger to them.  The thing is, as much as the hoarding is a problem they also have the problem of extreem laziness.  The only thing they are proactive on is blame, and we all know how effective blame can be!  After being told for years that the condition of the house was my fault, I moved far enough away to where they could not hold me responsible.  What I find simply amazing is the list of excuses they have come up  with since then.  I know that it is wrong to try to "fix" the situation as it will only pile up again after I clean it up but I can not ignore it either. 
    Hey! I just wanted to say that when I was reading this...I thought that my sister had typed all that stuff becuase you are tellin' my story ( vermin included ). Everything but the beer cans and dementia I can relate to. I will put my story on here and you can read it. Heather77
 
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February 1, 2006, 12:13 pm PST

02/01 "Throw It Out!"

   I am the fourth child of five kids that my parents had. Unlike that guy who wrote the book A Million Little Pieces ( or whatever it is called ) everything I type today IS the truth. I will not change anything for anybody. I cannot even begin to tell you the hurt I still feel to this day. These are my family members: Tom (dad) Thalia (mom) Sean (oldest brother) Brittany (oldest sister) Robyn (older sister) Heather (me) and Colin (younger brother). I was in the first grade when my Uncle Dave turned my mother into Children's services about the way we lived. He lived out of state and he came to visit us one day. I was in the livingroom sitting down by the front door and my mom and Uncle were standing close to the hallway when I heard him say "You shouldn't be living like this" "If you don't clean the house then I'm gonna call children's services and have your kids taken away". I WAS RRIIGHT THERE IN THE ROOOOMM WHEN HE SAID THAT!! Talk about scaring a kid. As soon as I heard that, I when out the front door to join the rest of my family who was waiting in the car to go out to dinner ( we went out to eat almost daily). I don't know what was said between them after that. I was just waiting in the car with my heart POUNDING out of fear, saying nothing to my siblings about what I had just heard. I was speechless and scared. My Uncle Dave and my mom came out of the house. My mom got in our car and Uncle Dave in his. We started off for York Steak House where we went often and when we parked in their lot my mom began to tell us what I already knew. She said that Uncle Dave said He was calling Children's Services on us and that all of us kids would be taken away from them if we didn't get the house cleaned up. My sister Robyn began to cry and that made me cry. My oldest brother Sean said "If they come I'm not budgin' I'm not budgin' ". Well, with the crying and all the things being said I could only think to say one thing while my sobbing....."Shut up guys", because that's all my 6 or 7 year old mind could think to say to shut them up because it was scaring me soooo badly to think I might get taken away from the only family and life I ever knew. To shorten the story a little, in two weeks we cleaned everything but my mom and dad's  room and the utility room. The Children's Services woman thought that was satisfactory and we got to stay with our mom & dad. Yea!!!!   Now, ya wanna know how long the house stayed clean? (BLINK) Not very long. There we all were again in the same situation. I don't know how old I was when Children's services was called again but we had to clean it again and so we did and then it was dirty AGAIN.  We pretty much lived the rest of our lives in a filthy house. Things around the house didn't get repaired well or at all. When I was a teenager our roof leaked very, very badly. I was the only girl left at home now and I had a two foot by two foot whole in my ceiling ( I have pictures to prove it ). We always heard something crawling around up in the attic. Right by the house was a shed with bushes around it that critters could climb to get in our attic. So they did. One night I was standing in my bedroom when I heard the "critter" up there walking closer and closer to the opening in my ceiling. I thought for sure that this would be the time it fell through the whole. My thoughts about it being a raccoon were correct. The raccoon stuck its head out the hole (not seeing me yet but I saw it), turned its head and looked at me and got scared and brought its head back up out of my room and climbed out of the roof. I was scared also because I didn't want it to fall on my floor and get scared and bite me. When it rained it literally poured in my room. I had to put a big canning pot under the whole to catch the water and then put another pot under the whole when I had to dump the water from the canning pot into the toilet. I accepted Jesus into my heart and was the only one still very active in going to church. I got so tired of the life I was living and I just cried out for help. I called a Christian radio station to see if they could help us with our roof. I am now mentioning the fact that my dad bought all the supplies to fix the roof but they stayed in our backyard...just sitting there waiting to be put on the roof. I told the station that and they said they would see if anyone could help us get our new roof on. A man called the station and said that they could do it but not until months later. It wasn't fast enough for me. Winter was coming again and I knew I would be freezing again if something didn't happen. All I could do was cry because nothing ever got fixed. The Lord heard my cries for help and one day my friend's neighbor Sue Swenor, called me up and invited me to live with her. I said yes right away. I then went into my parents room and told them that for their christmas present I was moving out. My mom asked why (in a weird way)? and instead of saying stuff like....... because this is the pits, we were neglected, and abused...things don't get fixed, I hate living here, I hate not having friends because they can't come in our house, I feel like Cinderella always cleaning up after everybody and not having it stay clean, I can't walk in this house without tripping over something, I'M TIRED OF THE RACCOON AND THE BIG HOLE IN MY CEILING ALONG WITH THE POURING RAIN, YOU TWO WON'T GET THE PHSYCOLOGICAL  HELP YOU NEED TO FIX THIS, oooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh  boy! I just said " It's time " and then I left the room. I moved out shortly after. I lived with Sue Swenor for seven months and then moved again to live with my Aunt Vikki's sister Tammy Crockette ( Ostram then ). I met the man of my dreams and we have been married for five years now. His name is Markus but we just call him Mark. We have a beautiful daughter.  

 

Twice in my life as a teenager and older adult, my family, friends and I cleaned the house when my parents went on a vacation and both times it got dirty again. I vowed that I would NEVER do that again unless one of my parents die and they need my help. I mean what's the point? They need professional help for their heads and heart.  

I think my mom is this way beacuse her dad was a drunk and abussive toward her whole family. When I was eight months old my Grandpa Glen Thomas shot my grandmother, Elenor Thomas in the head and killed her......after that he left and went to the water plant that he worked at and shot himself in the head by the creek that was by the water plant and killed himself.  My mom thinks that he found out he had cancer ( for the doctor gave him news he didn't want to share with anyone) and was attempting to kill himself when my grandmother came in the house, saw him and tried to stop him. The police say there was a struggle between them when all this was going on. The police also say that the last thing my g-pa touched before he left the house to kill himself was a picture of my brother Sean and a picture of my cousin Chad Thomas.  

I think that even though her life wasn't great (just like mine wasn't) that it is still hard to loose a parent let alone both at once. I think she just sort of lost it and now she lives her life in filth. I do have to say it's not as bad now but not the best either. I just wish that they were normal people who do normal things and don't hoard things. That's mostly my mom's problem. I can only remember her cleaning...like three times in my life. When I would talk to my mom about her problem she would only say " Well I never said I was perfect".    No one is, but most people clean their house and care about their family's well being. 

 

 

 

This isn't even half of the story but I need to stop typing. To the hoarding father of today's show: It is okay to cry. Jesus wept. You have a beautiful family! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE get the help you need so you can help your family. They absolutely did the right thing by getting Dr. Phil's help. My Uncle Dave did the right thing also. YOUR FAMILY DESERVES YOUR BEST but their not getting that right now. Man!  I just feel for you guys. I've been on your children's side for 28 years now. That has been my whole life even though I don't live with my parents anymore.....it's still a part of me and they still do not live in a fit home. I gotta go now, but I have prayed for you all. Heather77 

 

 
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February 1, 2006, 12:19 pm PST

For the childs sake yes!

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I recently married a wonderful man with a 6 year old son.  The son lives with his mother and we get him evey other weekend and holiday.  After several months into our relationship I discovered that the mother was a hoarder.  Not a collector - but a hoarder!  The front seat of her car is piled with newspapers she plans "someday" to recycle.  Pictures of her home show piles and piles of boxes, and sacks she may someday use.  She has a room that is just filled with "Stuff".  Other pictures show that a person cannot get to the kitchen sink or cabinets due to the sacks, old mail, etc.  There is a path from the doorway to the couch.  My stepson's room is so cluttered with toy boxes,sacks, etc that he cannnot play in the floor.   

  

The child has allergies but I am sure that the allergist is not aware of the conditions in which he regularly lives.  He is on 5 different kinds of medicine and continually comes down with bronchitis and other respiratory illnesses.   

  

There are other circumstances that concern me about his well-being and her skills and judgement as a mother but I will not elaborate as they do not pertain to this topic.   

  

I would appreciate guidance on how to help the situation for the sake of the child.  Do I turn her in to Protective Services?  She clearly needs help and would not take advice or counseling from either my husband or myself.  

  

  

For that child to live a better life than I had..... yes I would call protective services. But I would warn her privately first to get her to do something about it and if she doesn't then make the call because that child is the same age I was when children's services was called on my parents. I didn't have a great life living the way I did. I would only hope she would change and that the son could stay with you and your husband for the time she is getting herself together. PLEASE TALK TO YOUR HUSBAND FIRST! HE IS THE HEAD OF THE HOUSEHOLD. Heather77
 
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February 1, 2006, 1:04 pm PST

Amen! Tell it!

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My mother in laws house is just as bad as the first guy on the show...it is awful!!!!  You can barely walk around in the house.  There is just enough room for her to sit down and watch tv.  The house is Full!!  She had a storage shed put up to put more stuff in it. She saves newspapers and I even found canned food that expired in 1999.  She doesn't see that she has a problem. I just dread the thought of having to deal with it when something happens to her.   You can only get in one door at the house. The other door has crap piled up in front of it! UGH!  

We haven't been able to get through to her and it is so disgusting and frustrating. 

  

Is your mother-in-laws name Thalia? (my mom's name) That is exactly the situation my mom is in. It's a total fire hazard. Heather77
 
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February 1, 2006, 1:15 pm PST

Your profile says it all!

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My husband and I are both hoarders.  We love stuff.  I am so attached to everything and think everything has another use that I hate to throw things out.  I look around my house and just get depressed.  I want to clean up and get rid of all the "stuff" but I just can't.  I guess it doesn't help that my husband is the same way.   

  

We also enjoy going to auctions and buying other peoples "stuff."  Help!  We don't want our daughter to be a hoarder like us. 

  

  

    I'm not being mean but I want to mention that on your profile you don't say you love your family. Usually that's a given but loving your family is much more than just saying it. Do you care what your hoarding makes them feel like? Does your husband care? I'm a child of a hoarder and I have lived in it. It's not a good thing. My mom always said she loved us and hugged us but I wanted more. I wanted a clean house. Is that too much to ask from your own mother? I wanted them to live in peace also.....is that too much to ask? I know you want peace in your life....you've got to want that. PLEASE take the next steps in getting your lives together because it's not a good thing to have in your life (all the clutter and messyness). Have a serious talk with your husband and come up with a solution to getting the clutter our of the house. Do your children live with you? That's a dangerous situation to be in if children are there also. I've been there. I lived it. I am a survivor of a hoarder. Heather77
 
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February 1, 2006, 1:29 pm PST

Tough love sweetheart!

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Can Someone Help!!!!  

My mom (Jane) has been depresed, getting more and more obese and a pack rat since her mother my grandma died in 1987. She lives in a pig sty, every room is a desastor area, all of my brothers and sisters are adults and now it's just her and my step father and a 21yr old that's there now and then, ( that's a story in it self). My step father is never home, well now and then, some times he's to tired to drive and sleeps in the car in a parking lot and washes up when he gets to work in a sink.  He has worked 2 jobs for a long as I can remember and I'm 41 now. My mom can't clean up because she's not healthy enough to do the job. Not to mention that she has astma, and there is mold growing in the basement , which doesn't help the situation any. She has no energy and can't even go downstairs to use her dryer because of the mess and the mold, To get to the bathroom is difficult, she's out of breath and has to stop about every 5 or so feet to breeth beacause she's out of breath. Her smoking doesn't help any, but she will tell you it has noting to do with her breathing it's all astema. 

They have one son that is 21 the youngest of all of us, and is a slob, and has no respect for himself, his parents, or the house that he lives in with our parents. 

She can't begin to know where to start and how too, and for that matter niether do we (The Kids). 

 In the past years I my self have spent countless hours cleaning organizing and throughing out STUFF when my mom is not home, but no matter what I or we do it just seems to get worse and worse. My step father is NOT a handy man at all, his fix all.. is silver DUCK tape, my childeren (his grandchilderen) call him The Duck Tape King. Any ways they can't afford to fix  or replace anything, they have had no stove or oven in at least 15 years, she cookes by microwave or a BBQ grill. or take out. Her counters and cabents are comming off of the walls and theres holes in the wall, there's a dirty pathway to go from one place to another. Once in a while the living room will get picked up. But If you ask me I think that the house needs to be tourn down. And they need to start over. However, my mom is for saving everything! Her famous saying is that it good you can't throw that out.  I can't begin to try and help them, and I don't have the finacial ablity to do it either. I wish I could!  

I wish My father could quite one job, besides needs to quit one of his jobs, and start to enjoy his life, but he won't because he can't afford it. I don't understand? How can a man that has worked 2 jobs for about or for at least 34 years of his life still have financile difficulties? The excuse use to be that there were 8 mouths to feed 6 of them kids, but now there's only one at home and he's 21.  

How do I or we for that matter help them out? 

Can Someone Anyone... Please Help Me!!!!!!!! 

       The only thing I can think of is tough love. Warn them that you will call the health department (or whatever you have in your area) and let them know the situation if your parents and (sounds like) mooching brother don't get up and clean. They also need professional help it sounds. (Financial difficulties happen when you don't spend or save money wisely.) It's a very difficult situation to be in when people are not giving you their best!  I have prayed for you. I hope evrything works out well. The main thing is that they need to do the work not you or anyone else. You said your mom is not healthy...well I think she's probably healthy enough that you or someone else (your brother) could hand her things so she can decide whether that item stays or goes in the trash or to charity or whatever. Heather77
 
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February 1, 2006, 2:02 pm PST

On hold!!!!

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Me b/f for the past 1 1/2 years is terrible with  his junk. We literally devoted the week ends to 'cleaning'. I am a VERY organized and clean freak. To the point my family complains because I throw everything out. I have since gotten my b/f to rent a storage unit, but so far he has only been able to put 4-6 items in storage. Of course he had to get the in side AC and the biggest. I didn't mind, if that is what he needed to move his stuff. We will "find" the bathroom or other rooms only to have his go "shopping" as he calls it. I hate bulk pickup as he "shops" all the time. His main items are boxes, dishes, wooden boards and plastics chairs (for in case he ever desides to throw a party)...yeah right. He complains CONSTANTLY about how he can find things, his clutter, disorganization and procrastination. I have tried to convince him to just start small and not look at the entire picture. I will attempt to attach photo's of his place as I have tried to tell ppl what his place looks like and no one believed me. You literally have to walk side ways and maze through the mess. We have to eat meals on his bed as that is the only place that has some space and that is because I told him I can no sleep in the bed w/suitcases and junk on the bed.
          My advice is to put your relationship on hold until he can get a hold on what is bothering him so bad. People hoard for a reason and he needs to dig deep to find out his reason.  Heather77
 

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