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worried
February 22, 2006, 10:52 am PST

growing up with a dad like Grant

Grant, you remind me of my father.  He, too, was a highly educated, intelligent scientist-type, but he had the emotional intelligence of an earthworm.  He analyzed and criticized everything, and the highest praise I ever had from him -- after I got first place in a state-wide competition -- was, "that was pretty good."  Otherwise it was "you're getting fat," "you wear too much makeup," "why did you get a B in math when you could have gotten an A," blah blah blah.  Nothing I did was ever good enough, and he would nit-pick over stupid, trivial things which weren't even any of his business.  The emotional abuse was constant, and it took a heavy toll.  Just like Dr. Phil warned you about your own kids, I rebelled as a teenager.  I moved out of the house as soon as I could after high school, and I dropped out of college (that really hit Dad below the belt, since he was a professor).  I was so desperate for male attention and approval that I did all sorts of self-destructive things (heavy drinking, drugs, promiscuity) for attention.  I developed an eating disorder which plagues me to this day.  I went through a major depression at the age of 23, and the only reason I didn't commit suicide was that I was afraid that I would go to hell for all eternity.  I hooked up with a legalistic religious cult for awhile which gave me lots of attention, but only as long as I followed their strict rules.  I also developed a controlling, critical personality just like my father's.  I was so outraged by what I had endured at home that I became hell-bent that NO MAN, ever again, would control or criticize me.  The only men who would be in a relationship with me were needy geeks who were so desperate for "love" and sex that they would put up with my behavior and accept my past.  It took me nearly 50 years and two brief, failed marriages to see the light and to begin, with God's help, to change my ways.  Now I am middle-aged, alone, and working on my issues.  I went through a period of rage toward my mother for staying and not protecting us from this abuse, but now I realize that she had major abandonment issues and that she would rather risk our safety and self-esteem than to stand up against Dad and bear the aftermath of that.  My brother has suffered as well.  He is on his third marriage, but he has had counseling and has channelled his rage into serving as an activist for the downtrodden.  I am sad that I have missed out on any sort of a normal family life, including having children of my own, but I realize that I would have messed them up as badly as my father messed me up.  So I guess that was really a blessing in disguise.  Grant, this could be your own childrens' story 40 years down the road.  Is this what you want for them?  Change your ways NOW, while there is still time.
 

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angry
February 22, 2006, 8:52 pm PST

been there & so has my friend

I'm a little slow in responding because I just registered today.  But here's my $.02/worth on moochers: 

  

My last long-term relationship was with a moocher.  He is a very nice man, or so it seems -- but he has become an expert at using his "niceness" to play the victim, to get people to feel sorry for him so they will enable him.  He says he "can't find a job," but he won't accept a job unless it is sit-down work during normal business hours -- and I have been working an on-your-feet job on third shift for 13 years!!!  It took me a long time to see through his victim act and to discover that he is very lazy but also very clever in how he manipulates people.  I dumped him and a mutual friend actually gave me a hard time for "kicking him when he was down."  Well, sorry buddy, but this guy has "been down" all of his life and he's not about to change.  I am through enabling him.  Bye-bye.  When I saw Sarah's story, I could only give thanks to God that my eyes were opened before I married this loser...and I did come close! 

  

Dr. Phil was right on the money when he said that stuff about us being lazy for being with a moocher.  Moochers have little to contribute, so they demand little.  My man was very easy to live with in every area that didn't involve work.  He never complained or criticized anything I did, but I guess he knew better than to bite the hand that was feeding him. 

  

A friend of mine, however, married a moocher.  He was working when they got married, but he lost his job soon thereafter and hasn't steadily worked ever since.  They have 3 kids, but to her it feels like 4 because hubby sits home on his duff, selling stuff on eBay to make some pocket money but doing little else.  He doesn't even help much with the kids.  My poor friend is working all kinds of overtime so they don't lose their house.  Personally, I'd kick his lazy butt out, sell that house, and move into the trailer park if I had to, just so I wouldn't have to work 80 hrs. a week and could have some time at home with my kids! 

  

I realize that if I had married my Mr. Mooch, my life would be like my friend's.  And Sarah, so will yours if you marry your man.  Get out while the gittin' is good -- and it might help to go to Al-Anon to work on your codependency issues.  Good luck and God bless. 

  

  

 

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hopeful
February 26, 2006, 1:38 pm PST

"Retired" from dating

Last summer I declared my retirement from dating, and it was a liberating experience!  To prove my point, I donated my old bed (which I had shared with more than one loser-guy) to the homeless shelter and replaced it with a new twin-size bed.  The cat doesn't like it so well, but it suits me fine and I have so much more floor space in the bedroom now! <g> 

  

Part of my decision to retire springs from my mid-life review.  My 50th birthday is coming up soon, and I'm sorting through many things in my life, deciding what to take forward with me into the next decade and what to leave behind.  One of the first things to go was this business of trying to be something I am not in order to please someone else, just so I could have a man in my life. 

  

I keep odd hours (third shift) and I'm not one to stay home doing traditional "female" things.  I fill my evenings with a variety of activities which are enjoyable to me and that I'm not willing to give up in order to make myself more available for dating.  I guess I'm getting set in my ways... 

  

I had a very dysfunctional relationship with my father when I was growing up, and as a result, I chose a string of wimps and mamma's-boys who I knew would never abuse or reject me.  I married two of them, one in my 20's and one in my 30's, and neither marriage lasted long.  By the time I had enough insight into this to change my ways, the "good ones" were all taken...and even if they weren't, a good man would have reservations about taking up with a double-divorcee who comes from a history of abuse.  Yeah, my life was pretty screwed up, but I'm finished with the craziness.  I can't change the past, but I can accept it and try to learn from it and to avoid making the same mistakes in the future.  This is the hand I was dealt, and now I'm trying to play it the best I can...even if it turns out to be a game of solitaire. 

 

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confused
April 20, 2006, 10:13 pm PDT

church clothes

Quote From: jandjb

why are we so judgemental in church?   isn't that the one place we should be supportive and kind?  i bet that little  boy was a stud! 

What's the big deal, anyway?  At least the foo-foo-dressed kids are covered!  If we are going to have an attitude toward what people wear to church, I'd vote for gently educating the younger set in matters of modesty, esp. during warm weather.  I'm glad that the scantily-dressed youth are in church, but I don't think they get it about how distracting their skimpy outfits can be or how their excessive displays of skin are tempting the opposite sex into lustful thoughts when their minds should be on godly things.  

 

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blank
May 17, 2006, 10:44 am PDT

long courtships

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I assume you are being cute..right? LOL...that is funny, religious reasons...LOL

That is why I think dating is the most ridiculous practice on earth. People want to impress each other and it takes waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy too long to get real. 

My little brother dated one girl for 2 years, the two of them acted like different people around each other....all nicey nice and fake sweet....2 YEARS OF FAKE!!! All to break up and move on to the next fake relationship....
Yep -- both times I was married, it was about a year from the time we met until we said "I do."  I learned my lesson:  date them long enough for them to get comfortable and to show their true colors.  I have found that it takes about 1.5 to 2 years for this to happen. I'd rather date for a long time even if it doesn't work out, than to date for a shorter time and wind up married to another loser.  Ladies, look closely at the roles of men and women in his family, and TALK about your expectations for division of labor.  Play close attention to the way his mother and his father interact, because this is what he will see as "normal" and is likely what he will expect from you.  And if he shows signs of being cut from the same cloth as Greg, remember that this will only get worse as soon as the ring is on your finger.  Run for your life unless you want to end up like Amy.
 

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worried
May 21, 2006, 4:26 pm PDT

It won't get better. Run for your life!!!

I know not one but THREE women who were murdered by their husbands.  I knew "J" before she was married.  Her then-boyfriend was very controlling and abusive toward her even while they were just dating.  We worked together and one day she showed up with a bruise on the side of her forehead.  When I asked her what had happened, she said that he had hit her, "but I deserved it."  That's a load of crap and I told her so.  Later, after they were married, "J" told me that hubby was abusing her. I asked her why she had married him in the first place, given how he had treated her while they were dating.  She said that she was afraid of what he would do to her if she didn't go through with it.  Well, guess what happened?  A few years and a couple of kids later, she tried to leave him, and he went over to her mother's house when she was there with the kids and murdered her and her mother right in front of those poor children.  I was heartbroken...and not the least bit surprised.  These message boards are full of similar stories, and you could very well wind up being the next victim. Amber, pleeeeeease don't set yourself up to follow in these "J" footsteps -- get out NOW and don't fall for Ken's manipulation when he tries to get you to come back to him.  He will tell you all sorts of garbage about how he's changed and he's sorry and he loves you, blah blah blah.  And if you take him back, you can be 99.9% sure that he will go back to his old ways as soon as he gets comfortable.  The leopard never changes his spots, you know.  Be strong, girl!   from Cari
 

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blank
May 30, 2006, 9:20 pm PDT

tats on the job

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I think that you are very wise to indicate that things can change quite a bit once you get a tattoo or drastically change your appareance.  I understand that eventhough having a tattoo does not make you a bad person, it makes it difficult to be accepted in some sectors of society, specially the ones where a person is likely to gain prosperity.  I think parents should always be close to their kids and inform them about potential consequences of their actions so they develop  a responsibilty.   

Good job! 

I agree.  I work in a large midwestern hospital which has a conservative dress code.  The rules include no visible tattoos, no visible piercings with the exception of ears, and no more than three earrings per ear.  The only heavily-tattooed person I have seen at this hospital is a young lady who works as a surgical tech in the operating room.  They tolerate her tats because she is completely covered by her surgical garb, but if she were to apply for a transfer to a different unit, she would be rejected for the tats that go up her neck and around her ears.  She has tattooed herself into a corner, job-wise, unless or until they relax the rules or she finds a different employer who is more tolerant.  If she decided she wanted to go on to become an RN, none of the schools in this area would accept her because their dress codes are just as strict as the hospital's.  I would ask her and her tat-loving friends, is this really worth it? 
 

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blank
November 4, 2006, 9:50 am PST

Waiting for the rest of the story

I'm not taking sides for now, except to take Kaylee's side!  Why?  My brother was falsely accused by his now-ex-wife of inappropriately touching his step-daughter, and they made his life a living hell for months until his name was cleared and he was proven innocent.  Granted, Kaylee's dad has done some weird things and is slow to respond, but he admits to a long history of drug abuse.  He may well have been stoned out of his gourd when he took Kaylee into the bathroom, supposedly to change her diaper, and when he did or did not slip her a tongue full of birthday cake.  If he has fried his brain with drugs for years, no wonder it takes him a long time to think of what he's going to say!  And he may truly not remember some of the things he might have done while he was stoned.  If he is using drugs around Kaylee, he needs to have his visitation cut off even if he is completely innocent of molesting her.  My question to Krista is, why on earth did you get involved with this loser in the first place?  And to Bonii, what were you thinking, letting Krista start dating a much older man when she was a young teen?  Everyone has made their mistakes in this situation, and poor Kaylee is paying the price.  God knows the truth, and whoever is the guilty party had better pray for His forgiveness and mercy, change their ways, and do everything in their power to undo the damage they have caused this poor innocent child.

 

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hopeful
November 15, 2006, 5:25 pm PST

hoarders

Lori, bless you for having the courage to go on the show, sharing your hoarding behavior, and trying to change before it ruins your marriage.  My ex-fiance was a hoarder (notice the word "EX"), and I came from a family of hoarders who grew up during the Great Depression.  My ex-f's house was so filthy and cluttered that the last time I went in, I had to leave because the dust made me have an asthma attack.  But we weren't married yet and I wasn't stuck with him!  To those of us in the non-packrat world, it seems as if the hoarders care more about their stuff (which we see as junk) than about making a comfortable environment for us to live in.  Keeping a FEW things on hand "just in case" is fine, but excessive hoarding is irrational and self-defeating.  You wind up wasting money on duplicate things because you can't find the originals in the heap of clutter, and you force your family to live in a pigsty.  Just ask any of us who have cleaned out the houses of Depression-era relatives after they pass on, and we can tell you about that! 

 

A few things to consider:  when you have things around the house which are not being used, they are going to waste anyway...it's just that the dump is inside your house instead of at the county landfill.  IMHO, God will provide.  If you pass along those unused extra clothes, shoes, and household items to someone less fortunate who can use them, your good deed will be returned if you ever find yourself in need.  So have a little faith, get some counseling, and set yourself free from this prison of clutter!  Good luck and God bless.

 

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blank
November 21, 2006, 10:16 am PST

what about teamwork???

The thing that struck me about both couples was the imbalance of power and the lack of teamwork so evident in their interactions.  Marriage is about forming a partnership, and that requires communication and compromise on the part of BOTH people involved.  If either partner isn't mature enough to get over their need to always have their own way, they have no business getting married.  If someone controls or openly defies their spouse-to-be over wedding plans, what are they going to be like once a baby is on the way?!  Heaven help the child who will get caught in the middle of that mess.

 

 

 

 

 

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