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March 29, 2006, 2:44 pm PST

I'll miss you as well.

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I'm not sure what you think you posted that was offensive, but I can understand the "enough is enough" feeling.  I'd also sworn off posting on this topic until I saw Dr. Phil was going to replay it.    

  

I don't have as big a problem with the Brandi supporters as some posters seem to think.  My concern has been that this show raised so much emotion in people, and those who only watched the show are making judgements without knowing about some important factors.   I think Brandi's dad was hoping this show would be a catalyst to propel Brandi towards a possible early release - what if a large number of viewers petitioned the Missouri governor?   People have the right to do that, but after learning about Stephanie I think they should also have the right to hear both sides of the story before they take a position.   

  

Maybe it's because I advocate for children in court, but I'm more concerned about the effect this show may someday have on Madison than Daniel's parents, siblings or Stephanie.  After all, they're adults who had the opportunity to know Daniel and form their own opinions of what kind of man he was.  This show has rung a bell that is almost impossible to silence, and while I don't profess to know the "truth", I do know that there is an awful lot more to this story than the show portrayed.   

  

I have a son and a daughter in their 20's, and I've thought long and hard about how I'd feel and react if they were Brandi or Daniel.  I'd want my daughter out of prison.  I'd want my son to rest in peace with his reputation intact.   

  

So for me, what this boils down to for me (and why I continue to post) is that I think what Brandi's parents are attempting to do is more likely to EXTEND her time in prison than shorten it, and I'm not sure they comprehend why.  In addition, by revictimized the victim (whatever posters think, that's how the parole board will view it) by blaming Daniel for his own death on the Dr. Phil show they are delaying their son's coping and healing process as well as their own. 

  

While Daniel's family may have appeared more agitated on the show, I suspect that if these accusations go away they'll resume their healing process.   One thing is for sure: This board and Dr. Phil's show is not the place for either family to try to talk about how they feel.   

  

  

  

   

  

  

I'll definitely miss you as well. I've had a hard time explaining to everyone that she's definitely guilty & shows no real remorse about it(that was even very telling on the interview by her facial expressions, the way that she either kept looking to the left, or looking down on the floor while answering his questions, & her body language). I don't even think Daniel's family had enough time to tell their side of the story on Dr. Phil(maybe on an update in the future?). But let's hope that they can all forgive each other & move on from this. I also hope that you're still on Stephanie's side as well. She's obviously a good person & would do no harm. I certainly don't want anyone to get out of prison before their sentence is up, & that they're not feeling real remorse for what they did. And as for here, this will really be my last post on this topic, not my last time on this message board, as I will continue to go on other topics. What's your E-mail address? Perhaps I would like to get to know you more better, or to go to my profile & E-mail me if you want.
 
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March 30, 2006, 1:31 pm PST

I definitely agree with you!

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I too noticed her annoyance that she wasn't getting her OWN HOME, she'd have to share with the others.  Jeez!  Life is rough!  Why did she have children she could not support?  And what kind of sorry excuse of a man is her husband?!!! 

  

I am positive she will be back at her parents' house as soon as the 30 days is up...if she leaves at all, that is! 

I am 100% agreeing on what you just said. From the way I see it, I am quite disgusted by Tabitha's actions, as I think that she's the worst one out of the three. I mean, she already has two kids, & her husband who does absolutely nothing. I feel real sorry for their two kids that are going with this, as their lives will be hard in the long run. They both don't deserve to be parents & someone should call Social Services on them! At least her other 2 siblings have a lot of sense of what they did. They need to get a grip & face reality.  

  

And I think that Kristen can do better, as long as she starts to do something with her life. I can't imagine going to college, finishing up, & not finding a good career, and working as a waiter. She can do it. I know she can! 

 
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March 31, 2006, 9:00 am PST

Hey, cablekidz...

I have a few questions. Do you know Brandi's mother & Stephanie's E-mail addresses? I'm trying to get all three of the KC Star articles & I don't have a credit card to pay for them(I only have a debit card). Once again, here's the articles for it, plus the address for it(though it's kind of long): 

  

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_multi=KC|&p_product=KC&p_theme=realcities2&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&s_site=kansascity&s_trackval=KC&p_text_search-0=Daniel%20AND%20Mize&s_dispstring=Daniel%20Mize%20AND%20date(all)&p_perpage=10&p_sort=_rank_:D&xcal_ranksort=4&xcal_useweights=yes 

  

1. Liberty teen-ager charged in killing; Police say she hit 18-year-old with car.  

2. Girl faces trial as adult in ex-boyfriend's death.  

3. Liberty teen sentenced.  

  

If you can, find out what the E-mail addresses of theirs are, & that I want either of them to download those 3 articles into my E-mail so I can read them again & again. I do believe Stephanie is telling the truth about these things, but I want those in my E-mail. My E-mail address is princeofjoyness@hotmail.com. Thanks! 

 
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April 1, 2006, 7:40 am PST

I understand.

I understand what you're saying. It's just that I was so very late on this & I've only been a member here since February & didn't know anything about this until they showed the rerun of it. Anyway, why would you believe that Brandi is innocent? Why would you believe that she was abused? Because she's a girl? Because she says so? I would've demanded proof to see that he was abusive towards her. Plus, how can Brandi's mother videotape the scene if she wasn't there that night? I can understand Daniel's family being angry at her family for bringing them onto the show because they were reopening their wounds about it. But like I said before, they need to let all the hate & anger go. If I was being accused of something I didn't do, I would've taken a lie detector test right on the spot! Why didn't she do that, if she was claiming to be innocent in all of this? That's what I don't get. Plus, have we heard anything about the reinvestigation? It has been 6 months now since the episode aired, & I don't think that we heard a word about it since. I don't think that Dr. Phil bought her lies at all in that interview. If they decide to do an update on this, I would ask Dr. Phil to do a lie detector test on her to clear up everything. I think that her sentence is too light on what she has done, & even if it was an accident(which I truly don't believe), that still doesn't excuse her for what she did. Many girls & women have been getting off to lightly for crimes like this. In my beliefs, & I'm sorry if this will offend you, but, all Girls & Women need to be treated the same as Boys & Men when it comes to stuff like this.
 
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April 3, 2006, 9:04 am PDT

I'm completely disgusted at the two mothers on today's show.

I just saw this show, & I must say, I'm completely disgusted at Marilyn. Who does that woman think she is, treating her own kids like they were nothing? And the most disturbing thing is that she's using her own 8 year old granddaughter to get drugs?! Is she insane? She needs to be thrown into jail for that. She doesn't care about anyone but herself & the stuff that she's always smoking crack. Marri definitely needs to keep her daughter away from her & move on with her life, away from her. I believe that she can do better, & she deserves a whole lot better.  

  

As for guest #2, I don't think that Deana is really sorry for what she's done. She puts her daughter in the mental Institution 3 times? What for? And keeps bringing men into her home to have sex with? She really doesn't show Jessica any attention at all. She says that she wants to change, but I don't believe her. She says it & says that she loves Jessica, but she doesn't show it. Remember, actions speak louder than words. Jessica deserves better as well. 

  

I am absolutely disgusted at both Marilyn & Deana at the way they treated these kids. Both Marri & Jessica can move on without them. It's such a shame that they have to put up with them, & it sickens me. 

 
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April 3, 2006, 1:00 pm PDT

Seems to me that you haven't heard the whole story...

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it seems like the daughter has had a pretty good life, by all appearances, and there are children who blame their parents for everything. my perception of the daughter and the mother is ... the daughter would drive me to drink, for sure. the daughter is manipulating and she should love her mother no matter what, rather than give her an ultimatum - stop or i'm out of your life. i'd say ... goodbye. it is not her daughters business what her mother chooses to do. she seems like a pretty decent person ... except .... OMG! she smokes crack. i wouldn't touch it myself, but hey, if you can't handle your drugs, don't do them. legal or not.   

  

i find it interesting that people accept prescribed drugs that change people, cause problems, etc. one example would be for someone to be prescribed medicinal marijuana (@ $3,000 per 30-day supply - marinol - i think), as opposed to smoking illegal marijuana. it is acceptable to pay up the nose for a "legal" prescription, and acceptable to be prosecuted for smoking marijuana.  

  

bottom line. people are who they are, drugs are only a part of them, part of the consequences of who they are. if i took a prescribed drug for ... let's say ... mental disease and sat on a couch all day long because the drug make me that way, it's okay. i know somebody like that. but it's okay. it's been prescribed by a doctor - this drug, that drug, let's see if this one works. 

  

in this particular case, it appears to me the mother is medicating herself appropriately, for her. i think the rest of the world should mind their own business. and the daughter can live with her choice to disown her mother.  

How is Marri manipulating her? Did you forget that Marilyn used her 8 year old grandaughter to get more drugs? Maybe you truly haven't heard everything. Maybe you've never been involved in the kind of situation like this when you were a kid.
 
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April 4, 2006, 7:57 am PDT

You're totally out of line.

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i saw a young girl with almost a masters degree, who moved back into her mothers house (okay to be there if she needs a roof over her head), looked like a fairly nice house.  i suppose when the girl no longer needs the roof, then she can disown her mother. the mother has smoked crack for 18 long years. both women were able to walk, talk, etc. some people just need bigger problems i guess. i have three children. i am quite sure they put up with me as much as i put up with them. they are my heart, no matter what, and i am theirs. i think dr. phil could have found a bigger boo-hoo story.
I think that you're totally out of line here. Marri already has a fiance, I believe; & that he already has a home of his own, and why would she even go back to her mother? I very much doubt that she'll put up with the kind of behavior much longer.
 
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April 5, 2006, 11:21 am PDT

I am tired of these games that women have been playing on me.

I'm 23 years old, live in Norfolk, Virginia, & I never had a Girlfriend before in my life. Maybe I'm just looking for the wrong ones. I've been going to bars, the malls, even some colleges, but nothing works. Everytime I come across to a good looking woman & trying to get with them, they're either dating or married(& some of them aren't really dating or married at all!). It just drives me crazy. I'm just getting to the point where I'm just about to throw in the towel on them. When I was 17, & was ready to go to the prom, this so called "friend" of mine actually didn't have a boyfriend when I asked her out. Is that wrong, or what? I think it's obvious that sometimes women can be playing games on you & lying to you saying they have a boyfriend, when they truly don't, & that is so wrong. Isn't there someone out there that is really into me? I don't think I can handle it much longer. That's what I've been trying to say in my last message, so sorry about that.
 
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April 5, 2006, 2:52 pm PDT

Ok. Here goes.

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Sometimes dating can be so difficult. I do sympathize. If you dont mind, please tell me a little bit more about yourself. You are from my hometown. Actually I was born and raised in VA beach. You know soon the weather there will be getting very nice so you can take a drive down to the beach with a couple of friends in the evening and see whats up down there. In my younger days I met guys there. Plus it was fun because the weather was great and everyone was just out to have a good time and it didnt involve alcohol or lots of smoke. Also, I have a niece who is just two years younger than you and single....lol...think she would mind if I played match maker? Anyway, if you would like to chat feel free to look at my profile and you will see my email addy....please put in the attention space that you are from Dr Phils so that your msg doesnt get deleted. I would like to hear from you......if you want. Take care.

I'm a 23 year old African American man, who is currently living with some roommates right now. I like to meet people, excercise, hang out wherever I know, & using the internet a lot. I am a very nice person, very respectful, dedicated, & very loving. I would like to get to know your niece more better as well. Your E-mail address isn't shown on your profle when I checked, so mine is princeofjoyness@hotmail.com. I hope to hear from you again soon! Thanks! 

  

                                                                                                                                                     Garland 

 
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April 12, 2006, 8:12 am PDT

Truly Disgusting.

Michelle needs to wake up & realize on what she's going through right now. Does she really believe that this man will care about her & love her very often? Trust me, in a few years, he'll ditch her for another young girl who is even more attractive to him. And then, she'll be left alone in the dust. And what is going to happen if they have children together? She should enjoy life, & start dating someone her own age! 

  

As for the cousins segment, I'm sorry, but whether it's your 2nd, 3rd, or whatever, that is truly disgusting. Families shouldn't love other family members like that. And marrying each other(families) is truly sick. 

 

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