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April 8, 2006, 11:42 am PDT

Anarchy on the way

Yes, it's definitely things like this that remind me that times have to get much worse before it's over. This woman really thinks she would have been beter off in some way if her Mom and Dad had punished her with nakedness and let her see them having sex? On the site is what I'm referring to and just what she admits to. Now with her mentality we're all supposed to believe that any young (man or older man for that matter) who can coerce one of her daughters into saying she wants to have sex with him would be refused? This woman would most likely offer her own bed! And indeed Dr. Phil hits the nail on the head when he asks about the feelings involved with the sex act. This woman has demeaned herself to being used as a sex object by some guy and his wife, ( all of whom obviously have the same perverted ideas about sex), and they all ritually go in and use one another and then are teaching these children the same. They're teaching children to use their partner as another sex toy. This is Disfunction with a capital D, there's nothing healthy about it.
 
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April 8, 2006, 12:12 pm PDT

To the Extremes

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.I was raised in a COMPLETELY sexually closed enviroment. It was not discussed, or explained. It was a dirty, closed subject. 

I am happily married, monogamous, pregnant with my first child, and like it that way...that is MY choice. This family has made the choice that is best for them. As long as their children are not being molested, and they are not openly having sex in front of their children, I think it is HEALTHIER than the way I was raised!  

As far as the blog...I do think that every sexually active person has every right to have nude photos if they choose. I am SURE that some of you that are judging this family have some naughty photos hidden away somewhere, or a girlie magazine hidden under the mattress....your child could find those if they looked in the right place!  I think we all know that if a child truly wishes to find something online, or not, there is no way any parent can ever stop them completely. 

These shows ARE edited for "shock value" for lack of a better term. When that happens, it is very easy to see only the negative side, and forget that there is an entire WORLD of circumstances that we are not privy to. There are so many families that "have it all together" in popular opinion, but what goes on behind closed doors is so much more horrific than anything we can imagine. Honestly, a family that is this open has me much more convinced that there is NOTHING going on that they are not willing to share with anyone...and that gives me more peace of mind than a family that is just "too perfect"  

My family was a "perfect" family to anyone looking in. What they did not see was the emotional neglect, sexual abuse, and religious posturing that took place inside. It damaged me far more than any amount of seeing a sex toy ever could have! 

I give props to this family! It is no more different than the normal family structure than a same sex marriage with children is. I KNOW and can admit that there is no way that I have the security and self confidence that these women obviously have. They are secure in their love for each other, and their "husbands" love for them. That is more than most monogamous couples can say! 

In Biblical times, it was commonplace for a husband to have many wives. All of the women raised the children as their own, including nursing. When did someone randomly decide that was no longer a cultural 'yes' and turn it into a taboo? 

I think we need to look a lot longer and harder at the fact that the Bible speaks far more about judging others than it does about how many spouses to have, and look in our own hearts to see what darkness we are to afraid to let God deal with, before we start casting stones at those who choose to view life differently than we do. 

  

  

  

Obviously it wasn't the lack of sexual knowledge in your family that hurt you, but the abuse you suffered. So why stand up for people who abuse children at the other end of the spectrum? Why do you think the exact opposite would've been better? If you hadn't been abused, your childhood would've given you a time of life to be without sexual thoughts and activities beyond the 'What's this phase,' and as long as thing were explained to you as needed,(when you asked), in a loving way, you would've looked back on that time with joy. I am sorry for your abuse, I also have suffered.
 
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April 17, 2006, 2:41 pm PDT

Ever since he was very little

 When a woman has a son and sees thet he's vibrant, full of life, strong-willed, and somewhat mischievious, she can either say I''ve got my work cut out for me teaching this beautiful little person to behave, but still retain his confidence and determination that are good qualities as long as they're tempered.....or she can decide he a demon child, full of hate. But no, we can't change the fact that we are all born completely blank slates, who immediately begin to pick up on things communicated to us, some verbal, some implied, some nonverbal physical cues people are constantly communicating, not just when lying. So Nick has picked up on the fact that his Mom thinks he's bad, and he's torn to pieces emotionally, so he acts out. Dr. Phil has an excellent solution, in my uneducated opinion, to put him in a residential facility; But the hidden truth maybe I shouldn't even mention is that, in my opinion, Dr. Phil knows these parents are poisoning their son. (Mentally and emotionally, I mean.)

  When I saw the tape filmed in their kitchen, I saw that Greg did continue to stand uncomfortably, dominatingly close to Nick, then Nick would push him back and let go, then Greg responded,oddly, especially if he's afraid of Nick, by putting his arms on Nick's upper arms/shoulders and shoving him back a couple of steps. This pushing continues, where Nick is trying to get Greg off of him, from standing too close, toe to toe, in a squared off pose men usually find aggressive from other males. Watch closely in film like this, the proofs in the fine flavors of the puddin';Like when Nick jumped past Greg in the doorway, he seemed more afraid of what would happen than aggressive. Much of his tone of voice in the piece went from trying to sound tough or "big" to a whining tone, showing he was trying to bluff off his opponent Greg.

 

 
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April 17, 2006, 4:35 pm PDT

please consider

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Watching the show today was a flashback to my son's behavior from the time he was born.  He was our second child and "alternate child" syndrome was definitely at work.  From the time he came home from the hospital he screamed 16-18 hours a day.  He would scream himself to exhaustion, sleep and then start the cycle again.  His dad and I would take turns leaving the house for a few hours to keep our sanity.  Something was definitely wrong, but no one could tell us what it was.  All the doctors said there was nothing physically wrong with him.  The psychologist said we needed to understand that he just had a different temperment than his brother.  Most other people knew something was different about this child.  As he entered school they wanted him on Ritalin.  Researching the long term physical side effects, we vetoed the idea.  A speech therapist at the school asked what I was willing to do.  I was at the end of my rope and said "anything".  She handed me "Is This Your Child?" by Dr. Doris Rapp.  I was more than skeptical since just about everyone has an idea of what's "wrong" with kids.  But I've got to say that after reading it and learning about food allergies it saved my son's life.  Literally!  It started with a diet and finding out what foods triggered his behaviors.  After two weeks his teacher congratulated me on learning how to discipline my child.   She said whatever I was doing had certainly made him do a 180 and we should keep doing it.  When I told her about the book and the diet, she was skeptical, but agreed it had miraclous results.  He is now grown and after 13 years still monitors the corn syrup that triggered him.   It can be so frustrating to deal with this, but there are some answers out there, and diet has always been high on the list.  It's not sugar.......it's corn syrup that is the enemy :( 

 Maybe seeing that you were trying a special diet to care for him showed him you really cared. And maybe talks about the food opened up communication between you and him. So maybe it wasn't so much the diet as the care.
 
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April 17, 2006, 5:02 pm PDT

That's right

Quote From: lioness901

Hey.  I can't wait to see this show.  I wish I could ask them questions without haveing to give away personal info such as my phone number and address.  Why do they need to know that anyways??? I think they should just e-mail an answer to ya unless ya request to go on the show or something. If I could ask them something I would first ask Dr.Phil if he ever has a problem whare does he go for advice?? Does Dr.Phil ever get tired of what he does for a living?? Does he ever wake up one morning and say "ok I'm not goin to work today and nobody on earth can make me."  Has  Dr.Phil ever given up on someone and said "ok thats it! I cant help ya no more go away." or something to that effect?? I got over a million questions I'd love to ask them.

 I'm glad you made me think about all that because I wonder all those things, too. It's probably because we all see him get frustrated at times and scrunch his face all up in disgust at the people on the show. Then sometimes he looks right into the camera like the Home Alone kid for his,"How stupid can you get!" closeup.(I mean the show's guest is stupid.) He probably takes great beach vacations during rerun time.
 
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April 21, 2006, 8:55 am PDT

It's on her head

I'm embarassed to admit that when I was younger, since I'd been having unprotected sex for several years and hadn't gotten pregnant, I believed that I might've been infertile,(I've been pregnant three times as of now), so a couple of times I did tell guys don't worry about it, I can't get pregnant. And I believe if I had gotten pregnant any of those times, it should've been my responsibility for saying such a rediculous thing about such an important issue. But that was very long ago and I can't even understand the person I used to by the way.  

  So, if this woman also truly believed she couldn't get pregnant, and he was ignorant enough to let her best guess be good enough,(or had a doctor misdiagnosed her infertile?), they should both be financially responsible for the wonderful new person who has joined us in the life, though through these unfortunate circumstances. To the new father:Drop the war with the Mom, you've been so blessed to have this special person, your own child, come in to your life. Be a Dad. It won't hurt as much as you think it will. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 9:28 am PDT

You're my mom

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 I think it is a bunch of bull I mean if you don't want to be a father see if the girl will make a exception? I mean I have a two year old son who's father is not in the picture at all I told him that i want nothing to do with him or my son and if he leaves us alone i wont go for child support. i haven't heard from him in 2 years. I like it like this i prefer for him and his bad ways to be as far away from my son.

My mom did the same thing, and she didn't file on my Dad and he only came by once a year or less. she talked very badly about him all my childhood. But this is not good. The children will feel that a part of their sorry father is in them. Or, even if you don't do the bad talking, they will always feel an empty hole in themselves when they see fathers with their kids. There's no way to keep them from seeing that unless you move to the moon. 

  Now my Dad sees me and my younger brother on friendly terms, but none of us can patch those years in there. He wasn't our Dad. He only sired us. I think he felt so bad about himself that he thought we were better off without him. Maybe we were. But if your kid's Dad is a pretty decent person, you could let him see them from time to time and still not file. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 9:40 am PDT

Just my simple opinion

Quote From: kimike

The only thing I have to say on this is when 2 ppl get together they know the risks involved and should a woman become pregnant and choose not to keep the child then she should've been more responsible. I don't agree with abortion unless it's rape related or family related.  

 As I said in many of my replies to avoid these situations just choose 1 partner for life.........God didn't want us to sleep with many different ppl he wants marriage and children.......thats the way it should be PERIOD  

I agree that God intends for us to have one partner only, and I know that IS the perfect way. Now about aborting children, how can we say it's okay if it was rape or incest? A completely innocent baby should be killed because a man did a horrible thing? In this case two wrongs make a right? What about a woman who finds her husband is molesting her daughter, should she kill the daughter? After all it is his genetics, the girl may be tainted in some way. Or maybe the little girl is innocent of her father's crimes, and so is an unborn baby. But any girl or woman who has been raped should get counseling to help her see the baby as completely innocent. Or we should all start to kill our children when we see their father has done something aweful.
 
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April 21, 2006, 9:52 am PDT

Don't you question?

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It seems to me that Matt opened his mouth and lost his case.  Matt said to Dr. Phil that a condom also isn't always reliable.  True.  Since he knew when he had sex with his girlfriend that a condom wasn't 100% effective and he absolutely did not want to be a father at that time, perhaps he shouldn't have had sex with his girlfriend.  Her claim that she was on birth control and also could not get pregnant has little relevance if you believe him when he says that he was clear about not wanting to have a child.  They both assumed the risk of pregnancy when they had consentual sex.

 But why would she say she was on birth control and couldn't get pregnant? That's very odd behavior and can't be overlooked. It's not okay to do that. It just like saying if your boyfriend says he's had a vasectomy, you shouldn't trust him. In truth, he shouldn't be lying.  

 
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April 21, 2006, 10:06 am PDT

Situations reversed

 If I were a single young lady and started a dating a guy who said he was infertile and had a vasectomy on top of that, (And how fishy is it for her to be on the pill AND infertile), and I became pregnant with his child, so I carried the child for nine months and with the court's approval, handed the child over to him and he became fully responsible for him/her while I had no responsibility for the child because the father had lied about his fertility status, do you think I wouldn't be completely shamed by everyone around me:Coworkers, family members, friends. Can you see a woman saying, 'Oh, no thanks, I won't need a baby shower, this kid's going straight to it's Dad when it's born and I'm not having anything else to do with it!'? Everyone would think I'd flipped my wig! You're giving away YOUR OWN BABY? But some say this man should not have to care for HIS OWN CHILD because the mother lied. So there's a double standard there for how we expect women to feel about a baby and whether a woman should have to step up to the plate and be responsible.
 

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