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December 4, 2006, 7:38 pm PST

12/05 Ask Dr. Phil and Robin

Having worked in a convinience store, I have seen GAMBLERS, now the machines aren't in the stores in my area (in th bars, even better huh?), but LOTTO TICKETS and SCRATCH TICKETS can be just as bad.

I have seen people drop hundreds in one evening just on lotto and scratch tickets, and do you think they are making their money back, not even close.

I have seen PARENTS buy these things for their kids, telling them its just for fun, can't sell them to the kids, but there's really nothing that can be done if the parent is buying them, I wonder where they get the money, until one evening a man came in and BEGGED us not to sell any more to his wife, they were going into bankruptcy, you see she was going to the local bar as well.

Have I played the machines, sure I have, but having ADD has kept me from becoming addicted, I simply can't sit still that long, but I know if I let him, my husband could, that's why we avoid the bars and casinos, thank goodness he knows that about himself.

But I told him LONG ago, that would NOT be acceptable, and I say what I mean and mean what I say, I tend to be very blunt and up front about things like that, he respects that, thank goodness!

As for drinking, I have never hidden the fact that I like a cold beer in July, here in Canada, deck season dosen't last near long enough (sigh), or any other time of the year come to think of it, my kids know the beer is in the fridge, when it is, for us I suppose it was the way we approached these things, and they think just the SMELL is gross, or it might not be appealing, but we always said there has to be some rewards for growing up, but I've also seen kids grow up in very strict homes where drinking and such have been hidden, and they go WILD once they reach drinking age.  Who really knows the answer anyway ?

I think though it comes down to we can only CONTROL ourselves and our own actions, and when the chips come down (no pun intended) we are ultimitly responsible for our own actions, choose the action, choose the consequences.

 
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December 5, 2006, 4:11 pm PST

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So this teacher did what ?  Oh yeah, made a porn movie TEN YEARS AGO, she obviously turned her life around and became a professional, a teacher no less ( one of the most THANKLESS jobs out there I think ), so she obviously went to college, and from what a couple of posters from her area had said, she was a damn good teacher, so what's the problem, I don't get it, I mean come on, she was broke and homeless, and I'm sorry desparate people do desparate things, it dosen't make them evil or bad influences.

Is she showing the movie she made to the kids ? No, and did she share the story of her sordid past with her students, God I hope not, obviously a vindictive mean spirited person found out about it, and felt the need to ruin someone's life

So tell me this, would you change Doctors if you found out that during med school your doctor was stripping to make ends meet ?  Even if he/she was the BEST in your town, delivered your babies or even saved the life of one of your loved ones, I doubt that would matter much then, or would it ?

I truly think there are some people we hold to TOO high of a moral standard, problem is those same people are constantly  looking over their shoulders, and they can't relax because they have to be sure their past dosen't catch up with them.

I mean really people, we allow pedophiles to return to their communities, around children, because they did their time and DESERVE another chance ( and knowing that chances are they will re offend) this woman has done nothing it seems but her job since that sorry episode in her life, why does she deserve less than the pedophile ?

 
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December 5, 2006, 4:43 pm PST

12/05 Ask Dr. Phil and Robin

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Dr. Phil and Robin,

  I am still greving over the losee of my mother and can't seem to get over it.  Can you help me?  I am blind and have a wonderfull Gudie dog and see also feels my stress.  RIght now I live with my brother and trying to get out on my own but I can't seem to do that.  I no longer have both of my parents but I did not feel the sadness that I am for my mom that I did for my father.  I can't figger that one out as well.  My father divorced my mother in 1989 while I was still in high school but I have so much gilty for him that I did not spend enough time with my father after the divorce.  Could that be why I did not girve over my father more then my mother?  My dad died fast on the gulf corse like he wanted to so his death was instence.  My mother had cancer in 2004 and died that same year in May.  She suffered so much in one way I am so glad that she is gone because of all the suffering that she went through.  I was with her and my brother also by her side when she died.  I wanted her back so bad that I even was angry at GOD for taking her away from me.  I know that she is in a much better place right now but I need her down here. 

Can you help me???

Susan Sirois

Auburndale Florida.

My sympathies to you and your family.

You helped care for your mother to the end, and it sounds as though you were very close to her, you know what, there is no set time for grieving, there's no magic switch that you can turn on and off to say , " okay, I'm done grieving now", and your anger, that's normal.

Have you ever considered a Bereavment Group in your area ? That might help, to be able to speak to people going through the same thing you are, and to gain support from others who understand.

Did your parents die close together ? Sometimes that has a lot to do with it as well.

If you don't feel comfortable with the group thing, look into individual grief counselling it might help you more than you think.

But the worst thing you could do is isolate yourself from life, ask yourself, "would mom want me to do this, or would she want me to go out in the world and be happy ?" Only you can answer that, but I would think like most mothers, she would want you to be happy.

Again my sympathies, and I really hope this helps a bit.

 
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December 5, 2006, 4:53 pm PST

12/05 Ask Dr. Phil and Robin

Quote From: afraid

kiddie cocktails dont promote drinking the real thing, only a drinking parent does that! it is a very good way to teach a child that they can infact have a good timewith friends who might drink with out having to intake the booze as well, i for one can never drink but i do have a few friends whom have never had a problem with it, and i dont wish to not be friends with them or ask them not to drink around me at parties i heve the kiddie cocktails, and there really goodand the best part is i dont miss any of the fun i thought i had to get drunk to have,

You sound like a great friend to have, and I would be willing to bet NO ONE would drink and drive on your watch either, sometimes it's much more fun to watch the others act like idiots than to be one of them yourself (hehe).

I have been known to drink and yes in front of my kids, BUT never more than two beer, and they know the car keys are well away, my husband dosen't, and that's fine by me.  I have friends who smoke POT, all I've asked of them is not in my home or in front of my kids, otherwise, its their life, I haven't done that for almost twenty years, and have no intention of starting now.

I do smoke (gasp) cigarettes, but my kids don't, funny thing there.  They think it's disgusting, hey, I won't argue with them, besides I've always said to them, until YOU can buy it for yourself ( you have to be 19 to get tobacco or liquor legally) then you have no business using it, there is a reason it is for grownups only. 

Funny though, it dosen't seem to stop the ones who REALLY want to do it.

 
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December 5, 2006, 5:34 pm PST

In Defense of the Kids........

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I just dont understand how come they let kids rule the schools nowdays.    When i was in school if you got into trouble you had to pay for it.   Now the kids get smacked on the hands and turned loose to do what they want, say what they want, and dont ever have to pay for the conciquences of their mouths.    There is no respect for the teachers or any of the staff half the time, because they dont know how to show respect.    Kids now days has no respect for their elders or even for themselves.    I believe the whole problem started when the lady stuck her nose in and told them to take prayer out of school.      I hope the teacher that is having problems will stick it out and i hope she takes the kids and their parents to court for defimation of character.     You know what we do in our past should stay in our past.     Did God not forgive us of our transgressions and sins.     Like the good book says " Judge not lest ye be judged"

In defense of the kids these days, they have much more to deal with, usually, starting at home.

Have you ever read some of these childcare books ? "Don't trust your instincts " seems to be a big thing, trust the book, whichever one happens to appeal to you the most, so unlike even my parents in the seventies and eighties who depended on their instincts and parented  us, this days we are told that is WRONG, and the book will tell all, parents become confused about what top do and the conflicting advice and "evidence" we are innundated with is incredible.

Children are told as early as kindergarten that if Mommy or Daddy touches you in a way you don't like, tell us and we will have CPS or Social Services come see what's going on, even a teacher can get in trouble for patting a student on the back for a "Good Job".

Parents have given their power away, why I don't know, but we did.

Kids are coming from more broken homes now than EVER, Mom and Dad are BOTH working to make ends meet, it's NOT always a CHOICE whether or not to stay home now, and it makes it even harder for parents to keep a close eye on their kids, now kids being kids, especially teens, think back to that time, if you don't keep on top of things well we can a figure out where that can go.

There are kids who are going home to Mom or Dad passed out drunk or stoned on the couch, or Mom and Dad being "TOO BUSY" to talk give the kid some money and snd them on their way.

There are kids being badly abused at home, and lash out at ANY authority figure that they KNOW can't touch them.

Parents do have to take back their power with their kids, I agree, but where is the line ?  What constitutes abuse and what constitutes discipline, I've heard some saying that GROUNDING a kid is abusive, what is that all about ?

When Brittany Spears and Christina Aguleria  (?) have become our children's role models, or those horrid Bratz dolls that advocate being a fashionista instead of smarter than the boys, or how about the sports stars that have been charged for drug possetion or those rappers that glorify gun violence or the rock stars ( Marilyn Manson comes to mind) that glorify the evil in the world, we were in trouble.

Parents allowing their daughters  to go to school dressed like hookers in the name of fashion and freedom ? Give me a break. Or allowing their sons to walk around with their underwear hanging out, how about letting your teen get tattoos and body piercings whether you like it or not?

Did these parents LISTEN to that young woman last week ? She wanted to hear the word "NO" she wanted limits, children NEED them, so we as parents have to STEP UP and take our power back, I truly belive the really rotten kids are the MINORITY,lets start focussing on the MAJORITY of kids who might be just lost and confused, a lot like us parents at times.

 
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December 5, 2006, 5:40 pm PST

12/07 Homework Hell

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I cant agree with you more about this particular mother on the show.

 

I have a 11 year old daughter and she has a hard time learning how to do word math problems and other subjects as well. She has to go to another teacher (during school) like a tutoring class for her. The school provides this free of charge to kids having trouble in certain areas of curiculum. And the teaching happens during school hours (Ex.: instead of having her home room teacher for reading, math, or english, she goes to another teacher that explains it in terms she can understand). My daughter ISNT dumb, or has ADHD or anything of the like, she just has a time understanding certain things and needs help(especially with certain money problems). She is a A & B student, and like many of us when we were in school, has trouble in certain subjects( mine was math, I HATED IT). I dont hound her like a drill sergant saying "That is WRONG change it", she has to learn certain things by her mistakes. But by calling the child names like "lazy" and  the like ISNT going to help them at all and agree that is mental cruelity as well. That will have the child thinking he/she IS worthless and the child needs to learn just as we did when we were in school. Some children catch on more quickly then others, some needs a bit extra help.

 

The way we agree on the homework after school is this:

She comes home from school, she does her homework, gets the mail and other chores she has to do, then her "fun" time begins(like going on the internet, playing her video games and such).  Most of the time she only has reading and does that on the bus(its a good 30-45 min. bus ride with the route her bus driver takes even though its ONLY in town) but there has been many of times where she has ALOT of homework and I ALWAYS let her have a break. Even if its when we eat or when she gets frustrated cause she doesnt understand a particular problem/subject. I always keep scrap paper on hand for math problems that should arise and explain it the best way I can to her (I let her write it out and such), then explain step by step how to do the problem. Usually that works. Or she will do it they way her teacher taught her how( sometimes I even have trouble understanding certain ones and she explains it to me on how to do it).  About her report cards, she has occasionally had C's (which she does try her best at to bring them up and most of the time she has) I also told her D's she'll have to try harder and study more, F's (which I havent even seen one yet) but if the case should arise, she will have to buckle down. I dont yell at my child and always help her with her homework but i do know she has to make certain mistakes in order to learn.  I offer my help on her homework sometimes she even tells me"No thanks mom I know how to do it" and I let her go, but she KNOWS help is here when needed. I dont yell at her (and I have NO intention either) she is learning new things just like when we were in school when the subject we were learning was new to us.

 

The mother on the show should wake up and realize her own problem instead calling her own flesh and blood "lazy".

 

To the poster I have quoted:  Congrats on the SUCCESS of ur son. You have found the right help on his way to success. And I wish him luck in the future :)

Thank You, and by the way, I HATED math as well, and had to be toutered for it too.  You have a kindred spirit here, and the best to you and your daughter.
 
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December 5, 2006, 5:45 pm PST

12/05 Ask Dr. Phil and Robin

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i play a game with my friends after they come in where ever we are i have a key board, no booze till the key slots are filed, they must remember the number peg there keys are hanging on, and it really wouldn't matter even if they only had 1 beer  hahahahah, i switch there car keys with old keys i have i put my keys on there key rings and lock there keys in a safe where none but yours truly can get to them when its time for the party to end every one tries to remember where there keys were hanging, some really have very good memories even after a fifth  hahahaha, but doesn't matter, they had the wrong keys, wow they cant get in there cars either, ohhh well only one thing to do, we have to get out the van which has already been gassed up and i get to deliver all my party buddies home safely to live to party another day,most really like my method, but i do have a couple of friends that tell me it would have been better for them to have spent a night in jail  hehehehehe, there wives popped a can of whoop ass on them for being out to late, and all i do is laugh at them and tell them if they stop drinking as i have done they can get in on the fun of getting to be a real friend to them and keep them as well as other people on the roads safe from a drunk driver, i let them know i didn't care if they got a d-w-i but i do care if they kill themselves or even worse some one traveling home with there kids in the car with them,my game may seem stupid but it works for me and all my pals, and there all here today to enjoy a Christmas with there family's as it should be, and no Innocent person on the roads was killed in the process

Awsome idea, hope you don't mind if I use it at my Christmas party this year, could be fun ( evil grin).

By the way, if you are serious about drinking and driving, if someone gets abusive and insists on driving, a REAL FRIEND would call the police and let them deal with it, most of the time they are MORE THAN HAPPY to impound the vehicle, and let you pout in the drunk tank.

 
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December 6, 2006, 9:17 am PST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

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I have lots of questions for you.  Why do you find it necessary to talk about a childcare book or books and not give any quotes or name these books? Maybe you could help someone by swaying them away from those books that have false information or information that may be making their situation worse.

Instincts have nothing to do with parenting in my opinion. Having preset morals and values are what I believe parents should be equiped with by their parents. Parents should be held accountable for not providing such things. How? You might ask. By having someone like a school phycoligist come and offer assistance for the family. Which I think it would be very benificial to both of these ladies and the families involved on todays show. 

I have had 2 of my 3 children go through kindergarten thus far. Each of them brought home a paper asking my permission for my child to participate in a program that will be teaching then about improper touching. I signed that paper both times giving my permission. When they came home they had a coloring book that had all the information I needed to help me talk to them about it also. I did just that. Parents have to get involved and build trust and moral values to let each child know that this behavior is wrong and they can trust you to protect them from it. Education is part of that protection.

Can you provide a news paper clipping or other form of evidience that supports your statement, "even a teacher can get in trouble for patting a student on the back for a "Good Job." ?"

You say, "it's not always a choice whether or not to stay home now." Are we as parents not the ones who make the decisions of how the family budget is set?

Are we as parents powerless when it comes to limiting our kids accessability to the down falls of our society? 

My answer to both of those are NO NO NO!

Parents have to be held "accountable for allowing thier daughters to go to school dressed like hookers."" By the school not allowing it. Sending the student home is not the answer. Calling the parent at work and bring it their attention is what has to be done. If that parent is lacking parental strength, then help must be offered and available. Also if that parent is uncooperative, then that parent(s) have to find another school for their child to attend.

We have to be willing to step up and stand up for all, not just one.

Imentioned childcare books because, and hey its only an opinion, they all offer conflicting advice as do people like Dr. Phil and others, I didn't realize I needed to cite these things, Dr. Phil dosen't belive in say co-sleeping, where another positivly SWEARS it is necessary to raise a well adjusted child, JUST AN OPINION!!!!!   Instincts have nothing to do with PARENTING, I beg to differ there. Like ALL animals we do respond to a child in distress without thinking twice (or at least I would hope we do), all mothers LEARN rather quickly the difference between the hunger cry and the change me cry, that is instinct.  We KNOW our own babies form another, from their cries, and yes that is INSTINCT, and getting to KNOW our own children and accepting them is instinctual behavior.  Morals and values are good don't get me wrong, but who is one person to say yours are right and mine are wrong ?

If your school is being SPECIFIC about good vs. Bad touching , GREAT that is a good step, but that has to be reinforced at home as well, By the way, Tickling can be seen as a form of abuse as well, just to let you know, and no I am not citing sources right now.

As for the pat on the back, it has happened in my local schools and I am sure it has happened in others.

As for NOT being a choice to stay home, I submit to you the single parent, Guess all single moms should just stay home on welfare huh ? Or how about the working poor ? Have you NOT been around the families who are working for FOOD, CLOTHING and SHELTER and have little if anything left over ?  Yes we should determine the budget, but you know sometimes there just ISN'T ENOUGH no matter how hard you crunch the numbers, I concur there are those that work only to get the bigger house or nicer car, but that dosen't reflect the majority of duo income families, at least I don't think so.

You only CONTROL what your children are exposed to around you and in YOUR home, when they go other places, while g-rated movies are all you allow, another parent may see nothing wrong with pg 13, see its all in the opinion of others I guess.

The city of Halifax had tried UNIFORMS, and guess what, the PARENTS were the ones that screamed about individuality and freedom, a lot, not all mind you of the kids thought it was a good idea, white t-shirt with the school logo and navy blue cargos, nothing painful to wear at all.

But as for citing sources, you know what, there are very few who would take the opinion of a person they have never met, and therefore would do it anyway, go to any bookstore, it seems the info is endless, and much of it conflicting.

 
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December 6, 2006, 4:04 pm PST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

Quote From: dcmurray

I live in NS Canada. I watch the show occasionally from time to time but I need to  voice an opinion. 

 

Tericka - Here is a women who has taken the steps to better herself, overcome her past and become a teacher who will greatly influence many children's lives in the future - for the better.  Should we applaud her for her efforts?  Absolutely.   Should we find fault with her past.  Why?  What can we do to change what has happened.  Isn't it more important to carve the future?  Influence the children?  What better influence than someone who has achieved what she has already done?  Ask a parent from an inner city school about influence.  Tericka, come to my hometown and teach my children.  I would welcome the opportunity to have a voice of experience influencing my children.  Can your school board be any more ridiculous?

 

 

Convicted felon?  Who is more absurd?  The Assistant Principle, the well paid lawyer, or the justice system that allows this to take place.

Agreed, teachers need to have protection, support, better pay etc.  I am an advocate of teachers. 

Agreed - a prank. A bad prank.  Certainly accountability is required.  Certainly - punishment is in order and certainly a whole lot more than a three day suspension.  Community service (not implemented by the justice system) might be a good option.  This is not a case for the courts.  This is a case that needs to be dealt with by the parents, the school system, the teacher.

I feel for the teacher who has been victimized.  This should have never happened. But to influence a young man's life for the remainder of his life? For money?  How much money will make her "feel safer".  How much of the parents' hard earned income will be enough for her to say - Ok. I feel better now. 

 

Should we talk about influencing lives again?  I know where my support is.   Thank God I live in Canada!!!

Nice to see another from NS here, but we have our share of school troubles here as well, and our Young Offenders Act is a JOKE, and the kids know it.

However I do agree, Tericka's past should be LEFT THERE, she is OMG, a human being prone like the rest of us mere mortals to make mistakes, I am curious, if it is against the law in Kentucky for minors to posess Porn, or if it against the law to sell it to them, where did they get it ? And were there any consequnces for them ?

I agree about the convicted Felon part, What I mean is, why should this follow them forever, and as another poster pointed out. John .Q. Public will soon forget this whol;e sorry episode.

One thing does trouble me though,

If a teen is still considered a "child" and the parents still responsible for them, why can a fourteen year old consent to sexual relations?

Why is it a fourteen year old kid can refuse to come home at one in the morning, all the police can do is inform the parents of their whereabouts, but CANNOT compel them to come home?

Why is it, that a kid can be bailed out of jail 10 times into the custody of his parents who cannot control him, then while awaiting trial, can steal a car and kill a Teacher's Aid ?  Being from NS you know what case I am talking about.

And YET Dr. Phil has said it himself, their BRAINS are still growing and their reasoning centres are NOT fully developed, that is why we are not the same people at 25 that we were at sixteen, and yet we reason that despite that they are capable of making adult choices eg. having sex , staying out until whenever then when they get in trouble, we'll put them through Adult Court because they should KNOW BETTER, and yet we still call them CHILDREN, I wish we could make up our minds about that.

 
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December 6, 2006, 4:14 pm PST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

Quote From: joeboy

So we should eliminate all teachers who have made illegal, questionably immoral or "unethical" decisions in their past?  OK, so let's start with all the teachers who have ever had a speeding ticket, or other moving violations, DUIs, smoked, drank alcohol or gambled underage, spanked their kids, kicked their cat, copied a friend's homework, plagarized a term paper, cheated on a test, voted Democrat, stepped on a bug, ate meat on a Friday in March, kept a $20 bill they found on the ground, you get my point.  There would be 4 teachers in the nation!  And, only half of them are credentialed!   Let's expand that same logic and criteria to Parents!  Yah, Parents,,,THE Most Important Role Model in a Child's life!  Let's start taking parents inventory and see if they are suitable role models to influence and raise our nation's children!  If the parents are found to be lacking in moral and ethical values and poor decision making skills, then the children can be placed, say, in a Government sanctioned home, with Parents whom have successfully completed the Government Program on Proper Parenting!  Problem solved!  Let's all write our Representatives!

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Because it's SOOOO true

 

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