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August 28, 2007, 1:24 pm PDT

Congradulations - Gracie's Mom Did a Great Job

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If you actually take the time to watch the show, you might be surprised to find that the trailers only tell part of the story.  You might see that although there's certainly behavior anyone would find less than healthy and likely a little embarrassing for the mother's involved and their families, you might also see some kids with some true talent and authentic ambition to achieve a dream that is entirely their own dream.

 

For every Lindsay Lohan, there's a Jodie Foster.  My other child has a very regular life in a small town in Kentucky and I can tell you that he faces just as many challenges and temptations as does my daughter in Hollywood.

 

Plus, I'm not so sure anyone should close the books on what a clearly bright and talented woman like Lindsay Lohan might achieve before its all said and done.  Anyone remember Madonna or Angelena Jolie?

 

Being a critic is always the easiest of occupations.  These parents, flawed as they may be, are mostly loving parents who want the best for their children are willing to go to great lengths to demonstrate that love even when the message is filtered through their own human imperfection :-)

 

So, let's all watch and see what we think after the finale next Monday!

 

Respectfully,

Gracie's Dad

I did not mean to quote the entire email message, sorry!

 

I wanted to congradulate Gracie on her fantastic win. I did not think that her mother was ever out of line with Gracie. She was positive and focused, without turning into a dictatorial shrew. I believe that her even keel helped Gracie feel confident and inspired. I did get the feeling that Gracie's mom would do anything to help her children acheive their dreams. I did not get the feeling that she will push Gracie into doing just anything to be successful in Hollywood, as I did get that feeling with some other mothers.

 

Once again, congradulations, and I'm sure that you are very proud of both of your children.

 
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October 29, 2007, 3:07 pm PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

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Because you think that it would of been fair for that child to not have a father at all.  We do not know the whole story. All I see is this was a happy family until the new wife wanted more money in her account.  Nobody seem to take consideration that Enrique had the joy of having two beautiful daughters.  I see a mom that taugh about her daughter and what was best for her child.

A "happy family"? The mother showed no real remorse about lying about her child's parentage for years and years. I'm surprised, and disappointed, that Dr. Phil didn't get on her case a lot more than he did. Why should a woman be content with her husband paying child support for a child that obviously isn't his? I feel so sorry for this poor girl. She has a mother who is borderline sociopathic. The father didn't handle the situation all that well, but I'd like to see who would have. That was cold to refuse to see her - but it had to be painful to see her too. I hope that the man and the young girl work out their relationship.

 

I think that DNA ought to be automatically tested. If it's true that one-third of DNA tests prove fatherhood other than the man it's attributed to, that's really shocking. I saw such a lack of empathy for the men expected to shell out thousands of dollars of child support for children that ARE NOT THEIRS!!!!!!!! It's ridiculous to expect a man to pay for a child that he has not fathered.

 

Between that horrible mother and that stupid Gloria Allred - I'm embarrassed to be a woman sometimes. I'm glad I couldn't have children. Way way way too many women have children who have no business being mothers.  

 
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October 29, 2007, 3:55 pm PDT

Interloper Wife?

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 /first: I am confused by the attitude of the wife who instigated the DNA,.  I wonder about her Personal concerns. It seems to me she is completely out of place! Apparently he COULD have been the father or he would never have claimed the child as his.  However, to do what he did is unforgiveable. He must have felt love for this child so how he could do what he did is beyond my understanding.  I con't care whose fault it was in the beginning he is a sorry human being! His present wife had her own agenda! I had a hard time even looking at her on TV. She is a mean-spirited witch!

 

The young girl is beautiful! I hope her stepfather is able to adopt her.  Her mother leaves me cold too.  However, She loves her daughter in a way that the creep doesn't.

 

I am still very angry at the interloper wife sitting there acting like an innocent.

I don't get the people that are mad at Mia. It is her business; it is her "place" - that's her husband. She is innocent of any wrongdoing - it's the MOTHER who is WRONG here - and Gloria Allred - and the ex-husband. At least HE can admit where he was wrong! A couple of people have dissed Mia though, and I think it's ridiculous. I sure as hell wouldn't want to see my husband making the woman who cheated and lied a prettier bank account to reward her for her trouble! That mother is a wretched piece of human existence. Gloria Allred is just as bad.
 
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October 29, 2007, 8:16 pm PDT

Someone has Sour Grapes

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Obviously, you as the "new wife" have never been in her situation. The children are entitled to the family they were born into. They do not need a "new family" from your husband or his ex. Do you not think the kid's feel abandoned by their father. Children protect their mother. Period. The father can be great and loving, great, but maybe if he wanted a relationship w/ his children he should have thought more before moving on! I am so sick of men moving on 2 days after a divorce/death. YES, it happens all the time. Wait till the kids are older before getting a new bed mate MEN! What do you women expect? Do you really think the kids are going to embrace you w/open arms. You are not their mother. Do you wish they would call you "Mommy"? The ex was married to this man for 17 years. Why did they divorce? You did not mention that. I bet you are years younger than your new husband. Ever hear of a women scorned? The ex obviously was looking for something your husband could not give her. I believe her problems are a result her not wanting history to repeat intself. SHE is their MOTHER, not you! Do not fool yourself, you may have a reasonable relationship w/the kids @ some point, but it will not last . The children will always be loyal to THEIR MOTHER! Taking their mom to court will only further alianate them from their dad. THINK a little. Do you have children from a previous marriage? How would they feel to have a new step mom for them, who wants to take them away from you over everything. Come clean on your whole story, and them maybe I can synpethize w/ you, otherwise shut-up & but out.

"Do not fool yourself, you may have a reasonable relationship w/the kids @ some point, but it will not last. The children will always be loyal to THEIR MOTHER!"

 

Depends a lot on how the mother acts, how smart the children are (and children are very, very smart), and how old the children are. Children are very smart about sour grapes.

 
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October 29, 2007, 8:24 pm PDT

They Said What She Is Blowing It On...

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If she works full time and getschild support, and fiance works full time, they should have plenty of income. She must be blowing it on unnecessary things!   For review, needs are shelter (not a mansion), food, clothing (Target, not Versace), and transportation (Chevy, not Mercedes).  EVERYTHING else is want!!!
If she smokes pot every night - marijuana is not cheap. Unfortunately, I know this from past experience.
 
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November 4, 2007, 9:01 am PST

How Are You Doing Now?

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Thank you for all of the input, you made me cry. I am going to start a journal and start thinking one step ahead in how to make this peacful, i am just so tired of all of the fighting, i am just drained.

How are you doing today? I think you should make a plan and stick to it. Other women on this board have, and I left a beautiful house in Gold Bar Washington. I miss Washington every day, and I've been poor ever since, but I'm so glad I'm not with that guy anymore.

 

You could start to get some counseling. There are places where you pay what you make, and if you don't make anything, you don't pay anything. I hope you get some help for yourself.

 
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November 4, 2007, 9:07 am PST

GOOD ONE!

Quote From: luannet

I really wasn't quoting, but here is a good quote for our screaming bible student husband....

James 1.26

If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. 

That's a good one. These Bible thumpers need to read the whole book, not just whatever justifies their actions.

 

I do think he at least is willing to change. He must be, to go on national TV and air his dirty laundry like that.

 
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November 4, 2007, 9:27 am PST

What is she a victim of?

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Enabler? She is not an enabler.  She is a victim.

What is the mother a victim of? I see the mother as being an enabler. She only said that she wishes her daughter in law would get some help, but didn't say anything about what her son was doing until she was asked straight up.

 
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November 19, 2007, 1:21 pm PST

Bratz are dreadful!

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but my 14 year is getting out of control some is my fault but some is her fathers iam doing what i can on my end but watching here every move now we are divorced and us fighting and him say to her she dont half to listen to me is alot of her problems she is almost to much for me to handle this week end she said she was at one house was 25 miles at another and that was my fault she she did that because i dont like the people. i am just at my wits end she is a goos kid. then when the kids see the stars act like this it dont help i think it makes it worse

I work at a Target Superstore and I first saw a Bratz doll last week in the toy department. I was really shocked.

 

It is not your fault that your daughter lied to you! If you don't like the people she wanted to see, you probably have a very good reason. I ran around with really wild people when I was a teen, and I'm glad I could not have children, because I'd hate to have "it all come back to me"!

 

Your daughter could very easily be in the wrong place, at the wrong time, with the wrong people. I can't tell you what to do, but if it was me, I'd ground that little girl for at least a couple of weeks. I mean, no games, internet, or cell phone time! Your daughter needs to learn that if you don't want her to go somewhere, she had better not go, and she had better not lie to you about where she is going and who with. You are her mother, and she is lucky that she has a mother that cares enough about her to say "no"! She cannot possibly appreciate it now, but she will when she is older!

 

It was when I was skipping school and being around bad people that I started doing cocaine. There are many bad people who are looking to take advantage of teenage girls. Unfortuately, you cannot control what happens when she is at her father's, but you can be the parent when she is there with you. If I had a teenage daughter, I would not hesitate to let her spend some time in juvenile detention. That was the one thing that if my parents had gone there, that would have made an impression on me. They would never let the police become involved, and I would never listen to them, but I would have paid attention to being in "juvie". Maybe I would have finished school and attended college if I would have experienced that particular consequence.

 
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November 19, 2007, 1:35 pm PST

I Don't Think They Are Thinking About Respect

Quote From: rgirl93

I am 22 years-old.  I can't say that I was given a whole lot of attention.  Not that I had a bad childhood it's just my parents had two other childern and i understood that.  I didn't get mad and start dressing like a slut.  It's all about what your child thinks of themselves.  If she thinks she is sexy she is not going to be afraid to show it.  People are going to dress how they want to dress reguardless if they are 16 or 86.  That is something no brat doll is going to change.  She needs to learn to respect herself before she can except to ge it.  My advice is to talk to your daugters about RESPECT!  If she wants respect she is not going to get it dressing like she doesn't!

I don't think that these girls are worried about respect. They aren't worried about respect - they want power. There is an incredible power in being a young girl who looks sexy. They get a feeling from that they could never get that easily from anything else.

 

I've read that women have more power when they are young than at any other time. From seeing Chris Hanson confront stupid men trying to meet teenagers for sex, I have to agree with that. Certainly there are men who would do anything, spend anything, and sacrifice anything for the chance to have sex with a teenage (or younger) girl and/or boy. What is so shocking is that there are so many of them, and so many of them are already married fathers!

 

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