Messages By: hazel_eyes

Quote From: kerowyn

This event of the past few years has been brought about due to the Holier then thou actions and attitudes of most Christians treating other religions as doormats.   

Just for the record if I MUST be labeled here you might as well consider me Gnostic and or Spiritual in my believes.  

To many fundamentalists Christians with their overtly BIG Churches that start rivaling the Vatican in $$ and Flamboyancy have in many ways deepened most of the rifts in today’s world social order. Acceptance is not in the actions even though it is in the vocabulary of these Holier then though personages. Not easy to hear is it. But having been a outsider to most of the debates looking in I see a Christian majority trying to suffocate brothers and sisters under God who have chosen a different spiritual path. And not just within our own beloved country but world wide.  

We are of one spirit under our Holy Father... no matter birth right or birth place. God is a all loving and caring father. He speaks to each of us in a way that we can understand and acknowledged based on many factors. Hence all the different Religions of the world who seek the same enlightenment Christians do... they just do it in a different way following rules that were set down for their way of cultural life. Kind of a if you want to talk to someone from Russia it is best if you speak their language. Trying to Speak Greek to a Russian the message would be lost. So upon the Dawn of time and civilization God sent his messages to be interrupted by the different cultures and hence (in extreme short explanation) you have many many religions of the world who believe in a higher power and afterlife.  

Difficulties come in the understanding of these many teaching that were sent down ages ago in a vocabulary that held different meanings. Strong case in point during the time of Christ birth how many of you know that the term virgin simply meant “never married” and that there were many documented “virginal” birth of that era. This information having been kept silent for eons by “religious man” in order to utilize religious order to gain control over the masses.  

The over all point is if Christians where not so one sided in life (we’re right you wrong) and set the stage of a more equal and understanding of all religions the word God would be more readily accepted to the masses as a God for ALL brothers and sisters no matter the religion or beliefs. Ala, God, Eyawa, Buddah, Father, Azna, Om… call out any name and our Creator will honor it as long as we honor him.  

America One Nation Under A Loving Creator of ALL who resides within and without its borders.  

Blessed Be  

Quote From: progdad

Yessir that's my baby ;)  She's a new addition to the ProgDad household - just shy of 3 months old.  I'm tempted to post a new picture since she's getting cuter every day!

As for higher power - I view it along the lines of "prime mover."  Some power which "moved" the big bang that brought everything into existence.  I don't think we, as humans, have any capacity to understand it other than acknowlege that it exists. 

 I would identify myself as a Christian in the sense that I "try to be like Christ."  He defined the personage of passive resistor, social crusader and pacifist that became the archetype for many others after him like Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., Henry David Thereau (sp?) and Mother Teresa.  He also inspired (note I said inspired) Socialism, Democracy and Egalitarianism through his "first shall be last and last shall be first" doctrine.

However, being that he never claimed to be God - I do not think Christ was God.  And when he said "son of God" he was talking about all mankind being a son of God.  The Gnostic gospels delve deeper into this, but he's pretty clear about this in the Beatitudes as well.

Quote From: kerowyn

It is an interresting facet to this generation of religions and followers.  We truly have bred a generation of "poor pity me" humans.   Everyone seems to be persecuted for one reason or another by the "they" party who end up fitting the bill at the time.  " THEY hate me" or "I was discrimnated against by THEM"  Yu can substitute about any name or group into the "they/them" sections and come up with the favorite line of todays society.  

Personally I would like to see a Buddhist president.  Muslim?  that would put a new spin on this war going on.  Sorry my mind just churing around thinking about the what if's or life.   

Scientology... there is a subject of interest and contriversy.  I have yet to figure those folks out over all.  don't know enough about them yet Wacko Tom is not that great of a front man lately for the religion.  In basics I do see thier belief and thoughts being very good... but dig in deep is smacks of cult.  For me jury is still out on them.  But more power to them as long as we don't end up with another Jonesboro. ( shudder).   

 I have been hearing and catching a few things about the Christians in Rome.  Man (as in human) have modified so much of history over the years.  I enjoy the information out there wish I could absorb more infromation and new knowledge.  Might need to return to College for a course or two.  

   

Quote From: elffie

The pamphlet was talking about an old man who was on his death bed.  When he finally died the church memebers were comforting his wife and they put this verse in.  When the Witnesses came to the door they asked my husband if he had lost a loved one and if he would like to see them again.   

  

So I read the pamphlete and this is the verse that they used.  John 5:28,29. 

  

I googled it (because I remember there being talk of the ever so great biblegateway.com =) ) to see if this was an actuall verse and it is. 

  

I was wondering what everyone on this board thought this verse meant.  Even if you don't believe in reincarnation, does this sound like it to you? 

  

Elffie 

Quote From: elffie

They did that to her?  What about him?!   

  

I replied to Cheryl about a website that you should check out also.  It says that the term may actually have meant "young woman".  Nothing sexual at all.   

  

"Never been sexually active", sure, that's what people today define it as.  

  

I wonder why? 

Quote From: sylvia103

I was in a physically and emotionally abusive marriage for 12 years. I spent the summer of 2001 with my kids in a DV shelter... so I'm surprising myself by what I'm about to say... 

  

I hope that Dr Phil will not use this opportunity to merely bash the men on this show. Men who batter have usually been victims of DV too growing up. They need to learn new ways of dealing with anger and frustration. Deep down, they tend to have low self-esteem and don't need to be put down. Putting them down will only make it worse. What they are doing is not right but they need to learn better coping strategies.   

Quote From: wavyleggs

Hi my name is carly morrow, wen i was 2 or so years old. my unkel killd my any in my house.he had ben beting here 4 a long tim. now back then ther was not much she cood do legly , so she came to my house. 7 moma told her she cood stay well om momrly da week end. my unkel cam in to my house & sho my dad killd my ant 7 shot my moma. i was in the sam room as my moma 7 ante.my mom cuverd me weth  my big bar, A 5 foot or so tall tedy bar that i had, still do.well sum days i rember that day like it was yeste day then, have days wen i dont rember anything.any ways i just had to sher that weth u drpill after seeing what today show was abut.  

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       Carly Morrow 

Quote From: krissale

I have a stepsister who is in serious trouble.  She is a beautiful, 19 year old girl, who graduated from good middle class high school a year ago.  Her homelife on the outside looked ok, as she grew up in a nice community in big house; however, the life inside those walls was horrible.  Her father died when she was young.  Mother and stepfather (my dad) are both alcoholics in their own right and have a number of other additional issues.  If I listed them all now, there would be a book.   

  

My stepsister  was put in rehab for drugs and bullemia a year ago November, where she met a boy.  They have dated off and on ever since.  I don't even know the half of it; however, I do know she is not his only sexual partner (he tells her she's #1 though, how sweet!), she smuggles drugs for him, and the abuse has only escalated (physically and mentally).  A month ago her front tooth was knocked out "somehow".  Last weekend, according to my other sister, he beat her up so bad, she had a sprained ankle and swollen knees from getting tossed down a marble staircase; he bashed her head so many times there were bumps and bruises everywhere; he flushed her head in the toilet; he attacked her with a knife, slashing her several times, including on her face.  She called my sister who picked her up, and she was covered in blood.  She promised she wouldn't go back or see him again.  However, just 3 days later, this past Tuesday, she was seen with him.   

  

My question is how can my sister and I help, if at all?  How do you help someone in a situation where you don't even see a light at the end of the tunnel for them?  She has no support system, as she is burning all bridges with family and friends by stealing, fighting, and lying.  She has no education beyond high school.  She has no job besides the boyfriend's money.  Apparently, his parents are wealthy so he is the constant 'go-to' guy when she is broke or has no place to stay.  He uses that to control her.  She has problems that are bigger than she can solve by just leaving this guy, and I just don't know what my role is.  I don't see any hope for her.  If I can't see any hope for her, how can I help?  I think her trouble is bigger than brochures and books at this point. 

  

  

Quote From: sylvia103

Thanks for your affirmation and understanding. That means so much to me. 

  

Yeah I really surprised myself by how I feel. I empathize with the women in these situations too obviously. But I guess some reasons why I worry about the men too is that I know that they are victims too. And I pity them. I also know from my past experiences that I had to walk on eggshells so as not to upset my ex. I knew if someone told him that he was being a jerk or they gave him a hard time for any reason, then *I* would wind up paying for it in the end. 

  

I'm so glad you were able to stop this vicious cycle. I'm so happy to hear that and am SO proud of you for being able to stop the violence pattern!!! 

  

Luckily my kids seem unaffected by this. My son was mad at me initially but he later admitted out of the blue that he likes having no more tension at home.  

  

I remember when he was 2. My ex was mad at my daughter because she was screaming hysterically when he sent her to her room. He angrily got up from the chair said he was gonna kill her. I was terrified beyond belief. But my son, at the age of 2, had enough presence of mind and courage to run out in front of him and yell, "Don't hurt my sister!!!!"  

  

That was a HUGE wake-up call.   

  

To this day, he's still trying to save people. He's 15 now. He's an EMS Explorer. Just finished a First Responder course. I feel like he had to grow up too soon yet at the same time I'm amazed at how well he has turned out. My daughter wants to be a teacher. She's really got a knack for being with kids. She loves them, they love her. I feel so lucky that they are such cool kids in spite of all that they've been through. But I will always feel guilty for putting them through this in the first place. Noone should have to go through that but especially young, innocent, defenseless kids! 

  

Thanks again for writing and listening. 

  

Sylvia