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November 12, 2007, 11:21 am PST

UNACCEPTABLE

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November 11, 2007, 9:53 pm

I Commend Dr. Phil and Bishop

The "N-word" is totally unacceptable. Based on American history, it is one of the most derogatory words used to insult African Americans, as well as, anyone else. Please understand that when I refer to the N-word being unacceptable, it also includes use by African Americans as well. It is of no surprise that Racism and Sexism still exist, and is on the increase in the new millennium. As our troops are deployed, and the possibility of the draft reaffirming, all of Americas brave soldiers are all bleeding red, regardless of race. Everyone is human! There is no particular race that justifies being of the human race.

 

It is a horrific thought to know that Dr. Martin Luther Kings death may have all been in vain. What kind of monsters have people evolved into? Where is the transition in life? Although there are civil rights, the many rights of minorities continue to be jeopardized. This has to change, but in order to change, awareness is required.  Dr. Phil and Bishop created awareness on last weeks show.  This is the reason that I fully applaud their endeavors to open up a public discussion.

 

I respect everyones right to his or her opinion, but I could not help but face the harsh realities that a few of the individuals whom commented could be racist as well.  These are perfect examples why Americas media network needs to share in a solution to discouraging racism and sexism in America. What better audience to reach than the numerous viewers across America.   As our children face a horrible war, gangs in schools, deteriorating educational value, economic disparity, aids and much more, why do we spend time hating, when we all should be supporting each other? These problems do not belong to an individual race. However, the fact remains racism and sexism is real in America.   

 

Dr. Phil and Bishop, please continue to influence America. The dirt has to be swept from under the rug, and it all starts with communication. This will only breed education to the ignorance of racism and sexism. Everyone is created equal, but this is not factorial in America. The best lessons learned are to walk at least one day in each others shoes.  

 

 

God Bless,

 

Nina

 

 

I APPLAUD YOUR COMMENTS, BUT DON'T INCLUDE SEXISM WITH RACISM. MANY WHITE WOMEN BENEFITED FROM RACISM. EMPLOYERS WERE AND ARE STILL ABLE TO MEET HIRING QUOTAS BY HIRING THEIR WHITE SISTERS, COUSINS, NEIGHBORS, AND GENERALLY THE SAME FACES THEY WENT TO SCHOOL WITH BEFORE INTEGRATION. THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENTS WAS INTENDED TO BE REPARATIONS FOR SLAVERY, TO HELP REPAIR AND RESTORE. THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN RACISM AND SEXISM WHICH INCLUDES GAYS. IT ALSO IS NOT THE TOPIC, BUT ISAIAH WASHINGTON OF GREY'S ANAOTOMY LOST HIS JOB FOR A OFF CAMERA SEXIST COMMENT.

 
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November 12, 2007, 1:48 pm PST

YOU FEEL WHAT??

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OK..I am a caucasian female who lived on the east coast until I was 12 then lived my most important 17 years in Hawaii. (which we calll "the melting pot" due to all the different nationalties there)  I am apalled by this entire show!! HA HA HA! Master P saying, I am so sorry Boo hoo hoo I will never use the N word again and the audience practically gave him a standing ovation for that!! BUT, if Dog had been there and said "I am so sorry, I will never use the N word again" everyone would have gone nuts on him!! I am sick and flippin tired of the african american community still talking about how far they have come since slavery. Yes we know, we know. God bless you. But for those of you who use it as a crutch as to why you need to stay on welfare, etc......GIVE ME A BREAK!!!  Let me ask you this. I know the Black community has been through a lot, and I feel for them, but HOW DARE THEY compare me to the white slave owners so many years ago!! And if you hate that you were brought to this country by the white man to become slaves so much, then LEAVE!!!   Seriously, I know for a fact that now a days, black people are WAY FAR MORE RACIST then white.  They can hate us for all we have done but we are not allowed to hate them???? I love all people but I will say here in Indiana, I am treated very badly by MOST african americans I encounter. I get nothing but attitude from them.  Hey Dr. Phil???? When will you have a white teenage boy and girl on the show talking about how horribly Black kids treat them???  Hmmmm my guess, probably NEVER!!!!  GET OVER IT PEOPLE!!!

By your comments you feel nothing. LEAVE??? You mean, go to Africa. the 2nd largest continent in the world? What country in Africa should we each go to, since their are 53 COUNTRIES NOT STATES IN AFRICA, not including Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia which are all African countries. What language should we learn, since there are over 1,000 known languages?

 

The Indian Land Rights Act required the US government to pay the different Indian Nations for their land, well, the US government made a few payments then stopped saying they are only Indians. Pay Blacks what they are owed in compensatory damages only, which when land is included can be inherited and we will pay for the land that was stolen from them. This includes Chicago and many other townships that Blacks discovered, built up, and were given land rights to, only to be removed and displaced by US troops, bringing in white setters.

 

You don't no the history, because they avoid teaching it and it is even worse now.

 

Did I read right, "Black people are far more racist than white". Then you asked permission to hate blacks, but say you love all people. Maybe, the attitude and so-called hate you get, is really coming from you and all the racist ideas you spewed. A higher number and higher percentage of white people are on welfare. In contrast, higher percentage of blacks are middle class and above. If you were from Indiana, it appears that you grew up in poverty induced racism, that some poor whites developed to justify their poverty. Some people think they lost jobs due to Affirmative Action, because a Black college educated student got hired instead of the White high school student.

 

You are sick and flipping tired of the African American community still talking about how far they have come since slavery. Maybe, you should concern yourself with the fact that in the 1960's there were still hangings and blacks and whites were still fighting for black voting rights. Maybe, you can have concern for the fact that a number of whites are still hanging nooses, burning crosses and churches, and using racial hate  swastikas.

 

Saddam Hussein was tried and hung or his crimes against people under his government. If the Southern Generals and leaders had been tried and hung for their atrocities and inhumane acts of slavery,  hangings, rapes, and genocide maybe there would be healing. Abraham Lincoln was assassinated for trying to initiate Reparations for slavery. America can not afford the bill, it would literally bankrupt America, so most blacks just move on. Yet, America paid reparations to Holocaust victims in Nazi Germany. We also occupied Germany for over 50 years but there was no occupation of the southern states of America.  If there had been, the Southern leaders and senators might not have been able to have King and Kennedy and Kennedy assassinated. Yes, that spells KKK. Have you ever seen a cross burning? Burning crosses and burning churches, would the devil do less?

 

The HA HA HA and Boo hoo hoo, spelled out your racism, along with your desire to have public displays  of racism, because we know you are racist towards those people you mentioned.

 

I thank God that he allowed me to move to Alabama and go school there, be spit on, called the "N" word and learn that it comes from their self-hate. Because, I learned this I was on the Honor roll, voted an officer in Student Council with 70% of all votes in a school of 90% whites. I was able to change the ideas of students in the 70's that were only integrated in 1969

 

In 1981, as a 24 year old, I visited every white church in that town in Alabama an joined one of the churches as their first Black member. I was in the youth ministry, ministering to all-white children. We extended church to homes and all were welcome.  IF YOU CAN NOT FIND AT LEAST ONE BLACK IF YOU ARE WHITE OR ONE WHITE IF YOU ARE BLACK, TO INVITE INTO YOUR HOME, THERE IS YOUR PROBLEM.


f a woman has been raped and is fearful of all men, because of this fear, she has problem but it is justified. Any man, who has been married to a rape victim knows this. This does not make her a rapist and in comparison, blacks are not racist towards whites when they walk down the street and fear being Rodney King-ed or harassed for Living As Black in America or L.A.B.I.A. This called being afraid.

 

 

 
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November 13, 2007, 2:56 pm PST

NEVER PASSED

Quote From: some_guy12

She has already passed a lie detector test previously.

She is involved in a wrongful termination lawsuit and her lawyer did not want her to take it.

If you want to get more balanced information, read this:

http://www.soah.state.tx.us/pfdsearch/pfds/701/06/701-06-1196-ec-pfd1.pdf




She never passed or took a lie detector test.

 

Lawyers don't want their clients to take lie detector tests when they know they are lying.

 

If you want balanced information, ask a psychiatrist what happens to many females when they have sex or marry a dominant male teacher or priest or molester?

 

They become the molester. I have a friend who was in a bad & violent relationship, but now she is the abuser and dd not even know it until I pointed out that at 98 lbs. her marks on her partner still hurt and she has a temper

 
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November 13, 2007, 6:45 pm PST

POLY TEST

Quote From: some_guy12

This is a quote from the transcript of Part 1 of this series on Dr. Phil.  It is from slide 4 of 4 of the third part.
Start quoting>>
"We asked you to take a polygraph and you declined," Dr. Phil reminds Joelle.

"My attorney, who is currently the one I am involved with in litigation, told me that he didn't want me to take it," she said.  Gesturing to Tony, one of her attorneys, sitting in Dr. Phil's audience, she adds, "And you can ask him too."

Turning to Tony, Dr. Phil asks, "Why not?"

"She's already been found by the state of Texas to have not committed the conduct," he explains.  "She's already taken a polygraph examination which she passed.  She was not deceptive when she denied the allegations.  Why take another test?"
<< end quoting.

So that is why I said she already has taken a test and passed.(especially the last part.)  Why do you say that she hasn't taken or passed a one?




Dr. Phil is very smart. He emphatically pointed the credentials of his tester.The boys both passed a poly test, and believed that they would pass another. Her attorney never offered any proof or evidence in court or to Dr. Phil of any test. The boys did not need to, they took the second test. She came on Dr. Phil's show to try a case in the Court of Public Appeal and refusing to take a poly test, which if she passed would bolster her claim ad likely get the school district o settle, if clear circumstantial evidence of guilt.

 

Every one please remember she is The Caretaker of Children and the little boys were children.

As a male I can not say "But Judge yes she was 14 but look at her she's going on 30."

 

If I were the School District, I would pursue finding out the circumstance around her marriage to her teacher, which she defended by saying that it does not make her pedophile. And I ask, does she mean like her husband was. Abuse is transferable. Teachers and priests have access to our children.

 

In the last ten years, I believe that God has being try to tell us something. Wake up, Our children are at risk and these children grow up to be damaged Adults. I have a 16 year old nephew, with no sexual experience and trust me he would be damaged and I don't care how good looking the teacher. One of the boys was not sexually active, prior to allegedly being raped by the teacher.

 

Pray for the children, because there are Priests and Teachers lurking. Any good Priest or Teacher, would want to weed these snakes out.

 

 

 
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November 13, 2007, 7:12 pm PST

Don't get me wrong

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I totally disagree about the first  part of what you had to say.  I stopped watching Grey's Anatomy when they fired Isaiah from the show just because he said fag. Heck, I say fag, queer and gay in referring to a homosexual lifestyle.  Isaiah had his freedom of speech  taken away from him.  We had all better watch what we support here our rights are being taken away right under our noses.  I don't see anyone losing their job when the Lord's name in vain is spoken.  That's a law that is written  in the Bible. 

Have you noticed that our children no longer dream of becoming the President of the United States? What happened to the hero status in that position.  BILL CLINTON!  He wasn't even held accountable for his actions with Monica in the White House!  Why are these guys losing their jobs??

I never said that Isaiah should have lost his job. He should not have. He actually denied saying it. What I was saying was that why should Isaiah lose his job, look up the word "Fag" it means homosexual or a younger boy who acts as a servant for an older boy.  While the "N" word has no definitive reference to blacks, but was a demeaning hateful infuriating term used by the lowliest of whites try to justify their low educational and economic status and say at lest I'm not a "N" so I can seep at night fooling myself into believing that God blessed them with being white. Look up the true meaning of the "N" word and the origin of the word "Fag". No comparison

 

When Americas says that a President does not have to be a example, he whole world laughs and trust me they did, I was overseas and had many conversations and they all said something like Bill Clinton the Joke.

 

Dog has to lose his job, because we can not condone ever the use of the "N" word to demean and inflame. And once it becomes public, it does.

 
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November 14, 2007, 1:45 am PST

Be Real

Quote From: lynn2574

I just don't get why everyone is making such a BIG DEAL about her having married one of her HS teachers.  Unless she was underage at the time of marriage (and even with that didn't have her parents' permission), I don't see what that has to do with anything.  I grew up in a rather small town, and knew several people who graduated HS, and soon after began dating one of their teachers.  No one really thought anything bad about it.  I guess it says something about your want and need to judge other people based on circumstances and a world view that's different than other people.  But here is a FACT:  It is NOT illegal to marry someone who was once your teacher.  and it does NOT make you a pedophile to marry someone that is younger than you. 

 

I, for one, believe in the basis of our justice system, which says "Innocent until proven guilty".  Not only was she NOT proven guilty, but there was NO hard evidence.  One of her accusers recanted.  The other two have failed polygraphs and huge holes in their stories.  Did she take another polygraph - no.  But there will be people who use that as evidence of guilt in a misguided attempt to validate their own opinions.  She was acting on the advice of her attorney.  I, for one, applaud her.  She was not found guilty of ANY CRIME!  She has every right to volunteer in her child's school.  If you're going to argue that because she has an open CPS complaint she is unfit to volunteer, then you better be prepared to violate the privacy of every parent in your schools.  I've worked with CPS, and I know that many of the people that are being investigated and have serious troubles in their homes are the parents you would never suspect.  So, before parents are going to volunteer, do they need to sign a waiver for not only a background check for criminal background, but also for CPS reports?  To me, that is ridiculous. 

The big deal is that unless she is stupid, and maybe she is, they got married within a year after she graduated. That implies, unless they stand up and prove otherwise, they were dating while she was in high school ad sexually involved.

 

In a court of law, the standard is what is reasonable, so unless hey can prove that they did something unreasonable and unlikely, like getting married without dating or engaging in sex. They met as teacher a student and I don't send me children to school to meet, date, and become romantically involved with a teacher that should only have influence over a child's educational mind.

 

OJ Simpson as acquitted of murder, so I am sure that you made the same statements about the people who hounded him chanting "Murderer" or do you have a double standard and "Innocent until proven until guilty" did not apply to OJ.

 

She never provided evidence of the first polygraph which if we accept that she passed, then it only applies that the boys passed their first one. Her attorney would only advice her not to take a polygraph, if he expected her to fail, because passing a polygraph on Dr. Phil Show would surely force the school to settle.

I know this to be a fact. I am very close to law, I don't want to say how close, but ask this question of an experienced attorney.

 

Yes, and when I was in high school,I saw many of girls in male P.E. teacher's office's after school. Nothing was done about it,until many years after I graduated, they found one of the male P.E. teacher's in a hotel having ex with a 14 year old girl. He went to prison an they fond out that this had gone on for years.

 

Pedophiles put themselves in positions where they have access to children. It is not that teachers and priests are pedophiles, it is just that pedophiles know that they can wear that disguise and gain access to children. Why do you think that convicted sex offenders are prohibited from taking up residence close to schools.

 

I am glad to see that at least, you are not using her first name as if you know her and have personal knowledge of her. Pay attention, there were four witnesses. The three boys and the teacher.

The three boys offered statements as witnesses because they say they were there, the teacher only tries to refute their statements. If she were not there, she should offer testimony that she was some where. If she was not wearing a wrap skirt, she should offer testimony that she was wearing red pants or whatever.

She does not, because attorneys tell guilty people not to make statements that can be prove false. If she says she were some where or wearing red pants,then she would have an alibi witness. Oh, she has never offered one. WOW. Even her husband says the boys slept over.

 

Let's say she were telling the truth. She has such a trusting innocent relationship, that the boys felt sexually safe to sleep over. Something went wrong? The one boy was never sexually involved, but now says she was the first, the second boy makes a poem but does not identify the teacher. While the boys were in school, they did not go to the administration Years later, after they graduated, the administration is conducting an investigation, because a girl complained of current inappropriate behavior. As adults the boys decide that something was wrong and they spoke up and if we believe her, as adults they decided to seek revenge, but for what.? They had no contact with her as adults and they were not seeking money.

 

She put her case in the Jury of Public Opinion to be tried, so we all judge. Just like you, Judged her to be innocent, with your opinion.

 

 
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November 14, 2007, 8:35 am PST

teachers are paid their worth

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Since you seem to know all the facts, why do you think you are intitled to one million dollars?  I don't think lost wages and lawyer fees cover one million dollars.  We all know teachers are not paid what they should be, and the salary is not that high.  Drain the school district and deprive your daughters of having the best of education.  And one million dollars WILL hurt the district and their budget will not allow them to buy things needed for a good education.  I wonder, if you win one million dollars, will that stop you from dragging this on?  Probably not!  I also wonder.........why aren't you sueing the boys that you say are lying?  Seems to me they are the ones ruining your life.  The school disctrict (in my eyes) was protecting the kids, and I am glad my child has a district like that to look out for her safety.  Maybe sueing the boys would not draw that much attention.  And you don't have to send me a link to "the facts".  I have seen it all.  Do you have a "fact" page on teachers writing cryptic notes to her students?  Do you really think that is okay?

I agree, she does not deserve a million dollars. I however believe that teachers are paid their worth. Ask most students that graduated within the last ten years and they will tell you that they were never taught, that common world knowledge once was that the world was flat. This is important, if students are to understand the evolution of thought and the need to study. When teachers acquire independent knowledge of a subject they write books and that becomes part of their income.

 

She does not deserve a penny from the school district, because they have a duty to the children, to protect them, and if she believes that the former students falsely accused her, then she needs to sue them.

 
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November 14, 2007, 9:41 am PST

Hero

Quote From: chrissy_06

I think that  Dog should get his show back b/c he his a hero to many people and he is one of my heros and he always will be. He made a mistake and we all make misakes its part of who we are. And i as do many people think that he should get his show back. He has one of the best tv shows around.
He should not get his show back, because he is a hero to you. I think that your dad should be your hero, that is, unless he refers to hman being using the "N" word. Maybe, Dog's son  can be your hero, since he had the strengh to ot his dad andmay have positiely changed his dad fo foerver
 
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November 14, 2007, 10:01 am PST

Your World

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Ladies and Gentlemen of the United States Welcome to the Wonderful World of Communism

You must live in Nazi Germany or the good old South, where hangings of N*****'s were thought to be your right. Do you yearn for the Confederency and cry that the US is communist for taking away your right to own slaves.? Racism and religious persecution are ingredients of Communism.

 

 I can hear you now ' Those Jews, Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, Italians, Middle Easterns are ruining America and a good ole boy like me can't get a job.' Don't you yearn for the good old days, when Blacks stayed in their place and Jews stayed out of your business ad you could bomb everybody else??

 
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November 14, 2007, 10:20 am PST

Fight

Quote From: steffiev

Are you actually in agreement  Dog should lose his job because of what he was saying in a private conversation?  This concept just blows my mind!  Are you so willing to throw away you rights that millions died for in this country?  People are so hell bent over what was said that they become ignorant and try to dictate what can be said!!!!!  You give away your rights freely if you want but don't take mine!  I will fight till the bitter end.  I speak freely!

Who are you going to fight to speak freely. You can not threaten to kill some one or get on the phone and make a threatening statement towards the president. The secret police will be at your doors within hours and not for coffee Say something about blowing up a plane while you are in flight and you will be detained.

 

Your child does not have the freedom to pray in school, but yet you don't fight.

Should you have the right to hang nooses, Swastikas, etc. Be for real, most people who use the word believe Blacks to be no more than Farm equipment and would enslave them again and take away their freedom. A Blacks right to be free from that reference and a networks right to disassociate themselves from racism, when it becomes public knowledge, is a right worth fighting for.

 

It is not longer public and networks are effected. By not acting,the network says that they tolerate racing and have no concern for that viewing audience.

 

 

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