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May 18, 2006, 4:55 pm PDT

I guess she's doing fine

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The previews for this  Dr. Phil Family update makes it seem as if Alex is still the ungrateful, know-it-all, do what she wants brat that she was three years ago.  I will be shocked if Alex is really the one raising Nathan. I don't believe Alex has grown up or learned anything "worthwhile" from what she has done. And if learning how not to get pregnant again is the best she can do instead of learning self control, then she really hasn't learned much.

I guess we'll see when the show airs. Maybe I'll be eating my words.

I only got to see part of the show today, but from what I saw, she's doing fine.  In fact, for someone who got pregnant at 15, she's doing great.  It looks like she'll go to college, get a degree, get the job of her dreams and save her money and buy a house.  

   

Now don't get me wrong, I'm happy for her, but for someone who didn't do it "right" she's getting along pretty well.    

   

Now take someone like me - I graduated high school with pretty good grades, but I didn't get to go to college (I couldn't afford it - back then they didn't hand out scholarships to just about everyone like they do today).  I've worked since I was 13.  I got married and 7 years later at the age of 28 got pregnant for the first time in my life.  Then after 20 years of marriage (with financial problems the entire time), I got divorced, and now at the age of 44 (45 in one month!), I am struggling on my own trying to raise a 16 year old daughter - who has managed to get this far without being sexually active and getting pregnant - I guess I'm doing something right.   

   

I would love to own my own home one day, but I don't see that happening.  How do people afford houses today?  I don't understand it.  And how does someone like me, living paycheck to paycheck, do it?  I'm sure the girl "who did it all wrong" will own a house before I do.  

 
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May 19, 2006, 9:21 am PDT

05/18 Alex Turns 18

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It's not unfair...it is for the benefit of the kids...not the mother. Are you going to tell me that kids don't benefit from having an educated mother? This is for the better of our society that people get educated! The more educated people are the better...FOR ALL OF US. This is why there are all kinds of grants and all kinds of loans and all kinds of chances for EVERYONE to go to school.

How does it benifit the kid to keep the mom poor and uneducated?

Yes, I agree, but why do only "certain mothers" get help?  I don't make much money, but my income is always at that imaginary line where I don't qualify for help.  And I know I could sure use it.  How does a person find out about these programs?  I would love it if I could better myself, get an education and find a decent paying job.  

   

I don't live an extravagant life.  My rent is 40% of my income.  Usually the safe range is 25%.  I have to tell my daughter no all of the time.  I'm sure she's sick of it and the first chance that she gets after she turns 18 in a couple of years, (she won't go to college if she doesn't get a scholarship) she'll move in with some guy with a job and think her life will be better.  Which is the same thing that I did.  I just wish I could have broken the cycle and gave her a better life.  I try to use my life as an example to her all of the time, but I don't seem to get through to her.  

 
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May 19, 2006, 11:57 am PDT

05/18 Alex Turns 18

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 How does a person find out about these programs?  

Once you know what programs of study you are interested in, then ask the institutions about what financial aid is available.  They usually know where you can apply for loans and grants.  

  

I try to use my life as an example to her all of the time, but I don't seem to get through to her.   

Actually, it sounds like she is following your example to a T.  Children really do look at their same sex parent as a role model.  If you improve things for yourself,  you will likely give her an example you want her to follow, rather than a cautionary tale. 

Not as an example of how to go about life, but as an example of how not to do it. I've seen a saying somewhere that is something like - "If I can't be a good example, then maybe I can be a horrible warning!"  That's the point that I'm trying to get across to her.  I want to get a T-Shirt with that saying on it.   

   

She complains about our life all of the time.  She wasn't around when I was 19 and stupid (I had her just 3 weeks shy of turning 29), when I decided that if I was going to have to work full time to go to college, I might as well just work full time.   

   

You would think that she would want to do something about it though.  And she does have the opportunity to.  Where I live, the state will pay for college if you maintain a 2.5 gpa.  She's usually just under that with a 2.3.  I try to convince her that if she works a little harder (I don't have extra money for tutors for the couple of subjects where she has problems) then she'll be able to attend college on a scholarship and not have to work full time at the same time.  But she complains that it's hard.  And I tell her that it's even harder to scrub other people's toilets - which I have had to do for extra money.   

 
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May 19, 2006, 7:26 pm PDT

05/18 Alex Turns 18

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Hi!  I read your post and feel compelled to offer a couple of things I hope will help. 

  

The first thing you need to do is check out your local community colleges.  Hopefully you live in the Baton Rouge area where there are several options from BR to Hammond.  These schools offer many associate degree programs (2 years) or certification programs (12 to 36 weeks) to help launch you into a new career path with better pay.   Plus, they are SO much more affordable than universities are.  There is usually financial aid if you are below a certain income level. Often times there is even help once you finish a program with job placement.   

  

Find out what schools are in your area and call them to set up an appointment with a career counselor.  Get them to send you a catalog so you can see the different types of programs there are that you can talk to the counselor about. 

  

This also sets a great example for your daughter to see so that when she graduates high school if she doesn't get a university scholorship this could be an alternative for her.  (Maybe she will qualify for the TOPS program?) 

  

Next, buy your daughter a copy of Dr. Laura's book, "The 10 Stupid Things Women Do to Mess Up Their Lives".   Reading this book before she is 18 may help her to see her future in a different way besides just looking for some guy to take care of her.  I have given this book as a graduation gift to every girl I know for several years.  Some of them think it is weird, but once they read it they all tell me they are glad they did.   It really gives food for thought on the kinds of choices young women need to make to have happier futures. 

  

Best of luck to you! 

  

  

Thanks for all of the info!  I definitely will check into that.  I'm not in the Baton Rouge or Hammond area, but I'll see if there's anything in my area.  

   

I am hoping that my daughter gets a TOPS scholarship.  She only needs to works a little harder!  If they only had that when I was a teenager all of those years ago!  

   

I already own the Dr. Laura book.  It's been packed away in one of many boxes somewhere in my apartment.  I've moved 4 times in the last 5 years, so needless to say, some things stay packed.  Maybe I can find the book before she turns 18!  One day I hope to settle down permanently in one place!    

 

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