Messages By: hunterb53

Quote From: mick1234

This woman did go far with "punishment", I watched this show thinking that there was probably something deeper wrong with this mother.  I  have five kids also, and I know that kids aren't always innocent in how they act--my kids will push it to the limit with their mouths and their facial expressions.  I grew up knowing how to respect adults and knowing that when you are told ONCE to shut your mouth, that is what you do.  I'm not saying that the boy deserved what he got, but I'm not saying that he didn't deserve something.  There is a difference in having 5 kids opposed to only 2 kids.  When you are a stay-at-home mom, you are only dealing with kids and it's not all fun and games.  The camera only showed what mom did to the kids and didn't show what the kids did to mom to promote that anger. Again she shouldn't go that far but, I do agree that when you have 5 children they tend to overpower you in some situations ie: like when you are trying to talk on the phone or people are over  to the house visiting and they know that you are not going to punish them the same in those situations like you would if you weren't on the phone or visiting.  You should never underestimate what a child can do and will do to get you riled up if they're feeling in the mood to irritate, remember, they are training to be adults and anything that'll give them a lift of confidence they'll do.  I love my kids dearly and I'll protect them with my life, but I will not let them undermind me or my husband and will not let them disrespect and be lowly citizens.  My job is to make sure they contribute to society and not tear it down.  I do agree that if it comes to telling my kids that they are acting like idiots or hitting them I'll always pick the first, they do need to know when they are screwing up.

Quote From: lmish728

Forgiveness has nothing to do with this.  You can forgive people, but there are still consequences for their actions.  You can forgive people who are in jail, but they still need to be punished for their behavior.  She needs consequences.  These children may or may not forgive her, but they will still have memories that they will probably have to deal with for a very long time.  If you don't believe this then you should talk to adult children of abuse. 

Quote From: margey_ann

Please do not look at this for anything other than what it is..... ATTENTION GETTER 101. 

  

Having come from this environment, I know for a FACT the ONLY reason she was on this show is to get attention & show how important SHE is.  She may think she cares for those kids, but believe me - SHE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO LOVE.   

  

She will forever be commenting on their lives, and regardless of how well they do - she will ALWAYS have a comment for what they did wrong.  Putting them down & beating up on them reinforces her self-importance.  

  

I hope she gets help & can keep her kids, because I know the alternative for the kids could be worse..... However, if she doesn't - then I say let's roll the dice and hope for the best for those kids.  We can at least try and get them to safety. 

Quote From: advicenet

I haven't had time to read all messages. But did it not occur to anyone on the Dr. Phil show that this Mother's being out of control may be related to post-partum depression??  She has a 7 month old baby and she may have gone into post-partum after the delivery of this baby -- and never came out of it. From what I could see from watching the show, she not only needs a psychological approach (with behavioural change therapy) she probably needs a medical approach. A medical specialist needs to test her for post-portum and for hormonal imbalances.  I hope she gets the counselling and medical help she needs to get through this.  And I hope she can become the mother she should be to these children.  I also think the father is very much out of touch with reality.  He really needs to educate himself on child psychology and early child development--there's lots of good resources out there. Also, he could have been more sensitive and empathic towards his wife.  This was a very difficult show to watch.  I will pray for this family. 

Quote From: jfulbright

No one seems to  have considered (least of all, Karen), that in a very few years her oldest son will be a strapping, hormonally-mature male, with all the temper control problems that a lifetime of abuse can encourage.

If she doesn't shape up (and if her son isn't an emotional cripple by then), Karen is in for the surprise of her life: one wrongly-timed slap her son's head could lead to a viscious revenge on his part.

Karen, you can only beat a boy so long before nature catches up to you. It's just a matter of time before he cracks your skull with a frying pan. And later...his wife's skull. Then...his children's.

G-d! I just wanted to shake that woman and scream, "Just you wait!"

Quote From: miketina

I think maybe a small tatoo out of sight would be ok, but I think tatoos are very ugly. People can do what they want, but I have a right to what I like also. If a boss is hiring someone I am sure he wont hire someone that stinks and is dirty. Impressions are made very quickly. He has a right to not hire that person. I think some things are just universally ugly. Tatoos,body odor, yellow teeth. People are people.

Quote From: purplepain

Discrimination is illegal because you are judging, or preventing someone from moving forward in life or living life with out problems because of something they cannot help.

A tattoo is a choice. Race is not a choice, sex is not a choice, disability is not a choice. You choose to have tattoo's there for people CAN choose to not hire you because of that choice of yours.