Messages By: our4sons

Quote From: julie1418

Are you aware that when you type in all upper case letters it is considered shouting. It's not only rude, it's extremely difficult to read.

 

I think we can all agree that two people on the show are hardly the best examples for how to work out child support. She keeps having kids she can't support, and he thinks he should pay NOTHING for a child he created - neither of them are responsible people, there is no point in trying to take sides in THAT situation.

 

However, in making a point of how much child support is fair, I think you and many others are not realizing all the expenses and intangible factors in raising a child. Simply adding a child to health insurance can be exorbitant. The custodial parent IS limited in how much or what type of employment he or she can get. You DO need larger housing and need to consider the safety and school zoning for where the child lives. The fact that a child's parents decide not to be together doesn't mean the CHILD should be punished and forced to live on only the bare necessities. The figures you are coming up with for how much it costs to raise a child are shamefully low.

Quote From: msjones

Sometimes the only way to make a point is to make yourself a target. Sometimes the only way to get before a judge without shelling out thousands of dollars to retain an attorney (who by the way is most interested in his paycheck, not the welfare of your children) is to stop paying child support. But, you better have accurate and reliable evidence when you do meet the judge face to face... Either way kids suffer more than anyone else...that's the way our government has set up the family court system. I wonder if Pete ever considered moving close enough to his child to provide directly for his/her needs?

Quote From: know_it_all

This show created a lot of discussion that proves everyone involved in it knows just enough to be dangerous in their own corners of thought. It sounds like everyone is attached at the same anchor point on a bicycle with a slick tire and theyre spinning their wheels in opposite directions. Some that quote statistics are way off what Ive seen in highly regarded research. They all cant be right.

 

In referring to the case of the ex-couple and the issue of their child support, no one person seems to get exactly how child support works in general (how it is calculated or what the proportions are) so how could they know whether or not the $900.00 was sufficient, exorbitant or otherwise? Most seemed to have their own knowledge of how it works and you probably couldnt change there opinions if you gave them the written laws pertaining to the award method.

 

Maybe a brief insight into two people most people can relate to might help. Former Mayor of New York City, Rudolph Giuliani filed for divorce from his then current wife, Donna Hanover in October 2000. Im sure there were several court appointments regarding the matter between then and when Donna Hanover filed her motion to divorce him in June 2002. Her case took precedence over his, why? Giuliani was ordered to pay $1,800.00 per month child support sometime before that day in court in June of 2002. His child support obligation went from eighteen hundred dollars a month at that hearing to $24,000.00 (twenty-four thousand) a month. Why? What could have possibly occurred that began to cost $48,000.00 per month (only half is his proportion) to raise two of Rudolph Giulianis children. Incidentally, Giuliani was also ordered to pay more than $188,888.88 per month for three years to Hanover.

 

Honest, intelligent people have to ask themselves why does Rudolph Giulianis children cost so much more a month than mine or yours do? What makes their lives so much more extravagant that Donna Hanover needs most peoples annual salarys to raise them (Giulianis half plus Hanovers) per month when others get by on $400.00 a month?

 

One person in the blog is on target with the $.66 the federal government gives to the state for every child support order awarded in family court proceedings. That means every taxpayer in the nation pays someone else child support without even knowing it. Where else do they get money from other than taxpayers? The reason, most people believe, is that Social Security has been robbed from so badly by government that this is a good way for Americans to bail-out the governments defectiveness without them even conscious of it.

 

Learn something from this show. Find out for you how child support is awarded, distributed and abused by government before you go spouting off at the mouth about something you obviously really dont care about enough to research. Pay no attention to Dr. Phil and his antics toward Pete as he knows nothing more than you do about child support awards. I dont know it all, but I know this.

Quote From: msjones

I pay child support. I'm the nc (non-custodial) parent. The child is physically with me the majority of the time, but my ex has legal custody and chooses to take the money yet continues not to provide for the child. I allow it to continue becasue it IS in the best interest of our child to be with me.

Quote From: almaroja

 

AS YOU SAID, THEY ARE JOINTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS CHILD. AND I BELIEVE I HEARD THAT SHE WASN'T WORKING. THAT THE GRANDMOTHER WAS SUPPORTING HER.  SO WHAT IS  SHE CONTRIBUTING FOR THIS--OR ALL-- THE CHILDREN?

FORGIVE ME IF I MISUNDERSTOOD THIS.

ALMA

Quote From: almaroja

 

WHAT PART DO YOU AGREE WITH? ABOUT THE CAPITAL LETTERS? DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT YOUR PUNCUATION MARKS IS WHAT REFLECTS WHAT KIND OF A MOOD YOU ARE IN?

IF YOU SEE ME DOING THIS, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. THEN YES I AM SCREAMING. IF YOU SEE ME DOING THIS...................... THEN THAT MEANS I'M CALM. HOPE IT HELPS YOU AND JULIE...

ALMA

 

NO HARM MEANT!

ALMA

Quote From: uw4ydoac

The one thing that struck me as interesting was how little sense
Chrisy's story made.  Christy claims that Stacy "strangled" her
daughter against a wall for talking to strangers on the Internet, but
accuses Stacy of being aware of her husband's alleged interest in
child pornography.  That makes no sense.  What would drive a mother to
"strangle" her daughter for talking to someone who was possibly a
pedophile?  If Stacy's daughter was being abused, sexually or
physically, her demeanor and self-esteem would not have exuberated
such confidence and prompt responses.  And how ridiculous did Christy
look when Dr. Phil called her on the complaint to the licencing board?
 Christy feared for the well-being of children and pregnant mothers,
but turned her in for fraud?  Her reaction and lack of response made
it very evident that she was lying.  It sounds like Stacy has enough
evidence to file slander and malice charges against her sister since
she continues to make accusations and file false charges without any
verifiable proof.  Yeah they could not establish the line of
possession on the computer.  Christy admitted she had it for two
months before she turned it over to authorities.   This is why
children in America are abused for so long.  Authorities are spending
so much time dealing with false and erroneous charges.  SAD!

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What?  "What galls me the most is that the "Other women" never seem to give a dam. It's all about them and what they want. "

Give your head a shake.  I am responsible only for MY behavior, not another persons.  It is all about them?  What about your husband?  He was walking down the street and found himself in another woman's arms and had nothing to do with it?

The other woman is a symptom and not the problem.  The problem is your marriage, and that there is something wrong with it.  Notice that I did not say there is something wrong with you, just with the marriage.  It takes two people to make a marriage work, and if one checks out and does not want to do the work, then there is nothing the other partner can do about it.

Now before you jump all over me, my ex had an affair.  I took him back, oh woe is me.  Hindsight is great, I should have booted the bum out.  I had two more children with him, and I moved into a battered womens' shelter.  The fabulous thing to come out of that marriage is my three children. 

And I have me back

Presently, I am the other woman. Is it about all about me and what I want?  No, it is not. I have had many conversations with my lover, and now the decision is up to him.  And I do give a damn.