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surprised
July 6, 2006, 3:04 pm PDT

Accountablity

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Dr. Phil,    

   

Instead of insisting the father was at fault in someway for not wanting to accept his unwanted fatherhood, what about the poor choice the mother made in mating with someone who clearly told her he did not want to be a father?  She committed fraud twice by telling him she was physically unable to have a child and then on birth control on top of that for "medical reasons."  It was entirely reasonable of this man to proceed without a condom, as they appeared to be in an "honest" (her assertion) and committed relationship.    

   

You also made the point that someone her age could not know her own mind.  He is of her similar age, and did not vary in knowing his mind, before and after the fact.  He should not be accountable for her vagaries.   

   

This is another example of a person (her) not being accountable for her decisions.  She made her bed ;), she needs to lie in and maintain it ALONE. Yes, it is tragic this child will not have a father but this is because mom didn't choose wisely.   

   

I am a mother who teaches her sons to be careful of women like her.   

   

Graceandhonor   

What accountablity? I think Roe V. Wade removed a great deal of accountablity from women. And since then a Pandoras box of unaccountablity has been opened. Abortion = sex without consequences or court ordered C/S.  Get pregnant and collect C/S. C/S = welfare, because the county goes after the father for back C/S anyway.  Jack Nicholson said it best; when asked in the movie As Good As it Gets by a woman how we writes women so well he eloquently states "I think of a man and I take away reason and accountablity."
 
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confused
July 8, 2006, 8:04 am PDT

We know who the responsible ones are

I've read 663 pages of messge board postings and one of the most prevalent statements I've read is "he should have kept it in his pants" . Maybe their right.  Men we have to be the responsible ones and keep our penis hidden and not even let a woman see it, because the minute we do (let women see it), they lose control (become drunk with lust) and it ends up inside them. This is why we have Roe v. Wade, in the first place, to give woman another  "choice" after she loses control (drunk with lust)and gets into a "position" where she cannot make a rational decision. 

 
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flirtatious
July 9, 2006, 3:46 pm PDT

I agree, and here's why..

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"Play you pay"??!  

   

The only one that pays are MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell that if two people have concentual sex the MAN automatically pays!!!? The woman is automatically off the hook for the outragous financial oblibation!  

   

How about play and WOMEN start paying. You want equal rights then YOU pay. Stop taking all you can get and sticking all the responsibiltiy on MEN. Get a job and pay your own way through life. We dont owe you anything. Get a job!  

   

Check out Carey Roberts column. Also the ACFC website. Much insight regarding what you've said..check it out 

 
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July 9, 2006, 4:07 pm PDT

The detainees (non US citizens mind you) in Guatanamo Bay Prison have more Constitutional rights than US Males!

Recent Supreme Court decision gives non US citizens more Constitutional rights than US courts give to the  US males who are fighting and dying overseas to defend a Constitution that provides them little or no protection in instances such as this.
 

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