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February 6, 2009, 11:30 am PST

bf?

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Ok, this is a long story.

 I have liked this guy we will call "S" for a while now.  We met almost 2 years ago from an online dating site.  The first night we met, we went for drinks, took a walk went back to my place to watch a movie and ended up being intimate.  It was like we had already known each other for years and we clicked so well it was almost like we could just read each other minds.  At the end of the night i was laying in his arms and we were both looking out the window of my bedroom. He put his arms around me and said I wish I could just stay here forever and watch the sun rise.  We saw more of each other over the next few weeks but nothing was official. 

He was finishing his thesis at the time so school took up most of his time.  We stopped talking for a few months but eventually started talking again once his thesis was finished.  The he was looking for jobs and the job he got took him to a conference out of town.  He decided to make a vacation out of it and I asked if he wanted me to see him off at the airport.  He kinda snapped at me and again we stopped talking for a few months.

 When we once again, reconnected (I have come to find that we can not stay away from each other no matter what happens) thing seemed to be working out well.  Where as the times before he had never asked me to spend the night let alone invite me into his room, this time he was much more open.  It got to the point where i was spending almost every other night at his place.  The only problem was that I was not getting a definite commitment from him.  Because of that, the fact that I wanted a relationship and we never could get to the point where we agreed on gf/bf status, I found someone else who did want to date me. 

 I dated that person for a while but i knew in the end that things were not going to work with them.  We were just too different and I still wanted "S".  When i made the decision that I was going to break up with my bf, I talked to "S".  We had still kept in contact on and off through-out the entire time of my relationship but when I spoke with him, he said that he was getting back together with his gf.  We still kept in contact after I broke up with my bf and while he was dating his current gf.  We understood that for the time being we were just friends.  I never gave up hope that we would be together though.

Last weekend he invited me over to his place to watch a movie.  When I was there, he told me that he and his gf had broken up. We ended up being intimate but at the end of the night he thought it best to spend the night in separate beds as he was not in the right mind frame to be sharing a bed just yet.  I was totally ok with that. I understood completely.  Yesterday night he invited me over again and I made him dinner we watched a movie and again had some fun.  This time however he asked if I would spend the night and I did.  Yesterday was the first time in a long time I had actually seen him happy. He had a smile on his face and light in his eyes.

 Here is my problem, I don't want to be the Band-Aid for a wound that needs to heal.  Eventually he will realize that the Band-Aid needs to  be ripped off and it aka me will get thrown out.  I don't want that.  I have been waiting almost 2 years for this opportunity to happen where we are both single and nothing is hindering us.  What do I do?  I eventually want to talk to him and tell him that I want to be in a relationship with him but I'm afraid it's too soon to have that serious of a discussion with him.  He knows I like him and that I always have but when do I have that discussion?  When do I actually sit him down and say it.  I would much rather he tell me he doesn't see me as gf material for him than to be used.

 Please help as I have NO idea what to do.  I care about him more than anyone else and I can honestly say I think that I love him.  I would do anything for him but I couldn't stand being tossed aside.  It would kill me.

 

It will probably be difficult for you to take my advice and actually apply it to your relationship, but here it is: although you really care for this guy & like to spend time with him, do not only get together with him whenever he calls. Every once in awhile, you’ve got to ‘be busy,’ so that he realizes what he is missing when the two of you do get together. Right now, you might just be a convenience for him. (Please know I’m not saying that to be hurtful; I’m sure you’ve already thought of this yourself.) You need & deserve to know if that is the case, and how will you know if you are always so convenient/easily accessed by him?
 
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February 6, 2009, 11:52 am PST

Being a people pleaser...

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On my seventh yr anniversary of marriage I found out that my husband was gay.  I tried for 3 yrs after that day  to keep our marriage together.  I thought it was my fault, that I made him this way. two week before we was to separate he had gotten a blood clot in his brain and just about died.  I still stood by his side and took care of him.  Held down a full time job, went back and forth to the hospital for 3 months and took care of are 8yr old daughter.  after he got out of the hospital and had recovered I caught him again with his "man friend."  I was mad as hell.  because I was trying to keep this marriage together for our daughter. I told him that if we was going to make it work he needed to stay away from his "man friend"  he said that he was not going to choose between me and his friends so on are 10th yr anniversary I moved him out and filed for a divorce.  He was really upset because he had to move back home with his brother (there dad owned a
home, they lived there for free).  He had to tell his family and friends why we was getting divorced.  No one knew. I have been divorce for 4 yrs this year.  My X does not call or visit his daughter.  She is 12 yrs of age now.  she knows why me and her dad got divorced.  Me and her father explained everything as good as we could to her.  She says she understands and says she loves her dad no matter what.  She just wishes her dad would come and see her or call once in a while.  this breaks my heart.  But I am a happier person now.  I have fallen in love with another man and my xhusband is not happy at all.  The man I have fall for was are best man at are wedding. I have known him for 15yrs he is great.    him and myself lost contact for 5 yrs ago.  My X husband called me about 7months ago and told me that are friends (my boyfriend now) was getting divorced I told him to give me his # so I could check on him.  I called him and we started dating.  (we
have been attracted to one another for a long time.  But never did nothing Because we took are marriage vows serious).  My daughter loves him but she don't want no one to take her dads place.  (I never started dating until recently because I didn't want different men in my daughters life.)  He has a 19 yr old daughter who does not like me.  When His wife left him, she left him with two children ages 19 girl and boy 13.  She later came back and took the son but has nothing to do with the daughter.  Her and her dad live together by themselves for almost a year before I came along.  She say she wants her dad and her home back to themselves.  Her dad has decided that he wants me to be in there lives so she decided to move in with her grandmother across the road.  His mom don't like me because she thinks I pushing his daughter out of there home, but that is not true.  all I want is a happy family.  I have put my daughter on the back burner to make his
daughter happy and nothing I do is not good enough. I have stood back and watched my boyfriend try to fix this problem.  I don't want to be put in a place where I feel some one is choosing.  I went thought that once and It really hurt.  My heart hurts for her and I just want to be a happy family.  How do we move on as a family and not make her feel left out because she is trying to push me away.  He tells me that she will get over it.  that she needs to grow up (and that she does need to do) he says that he love me, and he needs to have a life also.  I understand that and I want the same thing.  But is it wrong for use to be happy and want a happy family?  I don't think so!  I'm know I'm a people pleaser.  how do I fix this problem? she liked me before we dated.  please help......
It sounds like you’ve been through a lot, way more then many people, and you truly deserve to live a happy, healthy life & to experience a happy, healthy relationship. In regards to your own daughter & the new man in your life, have you explained to her that your bf isn’t going to take the place of her father? Tell her the reasons that you are dating him- list off a few of his positive qualities, and then re-state that no one will ever take the place of her biological father. Although it must hurt very much that her father doesn’t play a big role in her life, that doesn’t mean no man should ever care for her in a fatherly way, and again, that is not the same as actually ‘being’ her father. She can have a healthy balance. Also, part of growing up for your daughter is her learning to ‘share’ her mom, and also to recognize that mom needs & deserves to share her life with a partner. Which leads me to your boyfriend’s daughter…
His daughter has actually moved out because he is dating you? That makes her sound highly irrational and unreasonable, which leads me to believe this: no matter what, she won’t be happy that her father has found a happy relationship. It doesn’t matter that it is you or someone else; she does not want him to live out the remainder of his life having someone to love. How selfish of her. No matter what, my advice to you is to try to include your kids in your relationship; if they decline, then that is their decision. Give your daughter some time to ‘come around,’ but I doubt that his daughter will come around. You’ve got to do what is right & best for YOU at this point in your life. At the same time, be conscious of the time you spend/don’t spend with your daughter & make special dates/times for just the two of you to do special things that you both enjoy. You are transitioning from a child/parent relationship with her into a parent/young adult child now, so it is important to be an active part of her life. I wish you the very best!!
 
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February 9, 2009, 11:49 am PST

boyfriend's lack of honesty & "Leisure" time

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 I have been with my boyfriend for 3 years now and we share 2 children together. He lies to me all the time and doesnt seem to think he needs to tell me where hes been. He has cheated on me in the past. For example when he goes to school, he has breaks and friends etc just like most people. When he comes home I out of interest in him and his life and also out of lack of trust ask him what he did today. He tells me he sat in the cafeteria. A couple days later I find out he went to a friends house. I confront him and he tells me he didnt think it mattered. So why didnt he just tell me why not just say he went to his friends house?

 

I am a stay at home mom and do everything for the kids and around the house but he is always needing his "leizure time". I am never included in any of this nor does he usually tell me the whole story about where he had been or who he was with as once again "I am not his mom and he didnt think it mattered or we dont need to be attached at the hip" Am I the only one with a boyfriend that seems to think he doesnt need to tell me what goes on in his life or that I am entitled to the truth especially after infedelity??? How do I get him to understand that I have the right to know these things or that I matter too??

Your boyfriend only gives you half-truths because you have shown him that you will tolerate his half-truths. The only person who can change this is YOU. I know that it probably won’t be easy for you to break this pattern you have going on. Maybe you don’t want to ‘rock the boat’ or cause problems by asking questions, but until you do begin to rock the boat, you will continue to get those half truths. Because this has been going on for two years, your boyfriend is either really set in his way of telling half truths, or, maybe that was his personality from the very beginning. The important question that you need to ask yourself is this: if there is no visible improvement soon, what are you prepared to do about it? You know that you can’t continue living with a man who only shares part of his life with you. You need & deserve so much more then that from your partner. He isn’t going to step up & create positive changes unless he is forced to do so. I urge you to think about what you are willing to do to nudge him in the direction of making positive changes. If you say you are going to break up, be prepared to really do it- otherwise he will know you are just making idle threats. If you really want change to happen, you’ve got to cause a catalyst. Best wishes to you!
 
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February 9, 2009, 11:57 am PST

online flirting

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Ok I am new to this...so I'll get right to the issue. Is flirting and talking dirty to people out of state online considered infidelity? I struggle with this because I recently found that my husband was doing this for over a year before I found out about it. Our relationship of marriage had only been a year old before this started happening. I am so torn by this. I gave him everything I could in our relationship. When I confronted him he said that it was because he was depressed. For a year???!!! I love him but I will always be wondering if he is doing it again and what if he is and  I don't find out for another year or so. I am trying to wipe the slate clean and start fresh but it is so hard when trust has been broken. I think this is also the reason I get so upset when he is online all the time playng war games...even after I go to bed. Any thoughts? Comments? Please, I need to hear it.
I know that I would be very hurt if I were you. I’d have that same reaction- ‘for a year?’ But you are at a time now where you have to make a decision; either to forgive him & move forward from where you are right now, or, to hold onto that old pain & suspicion. Holding onto the pain & suspicion hurts, but at the same time, it is what you’ve been doing for so long it probably feels like second nature. Moving forward from this day on & choosing to forgive will be difficult, but it is the healthiest thing to do for your marriage. You should talk to your husband and let him know how you are feeling; that you still feel suspicious, and that you don’t want to carry these negative feelings around with you anymore. Ask him what he can do to help you let go. (Hopefully he promises to never do it again, and then, ask him this: how will you know?) His answers should tell you all you need to know. I wish you the best.
 
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February 11, 2009, 7:59 am PST

Boyfriend is always right

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Hello,

I'm 38 and have been in a relationship since 8 years and my BF has an 8 year old daughter.  The road has been bumpy and rocky, but it is better between his daughter and me..but getting alot worse with my BF.  I feel as if I don't have an opinion, cause his is the best one...and that everything I say or do.....isn't ok..  That includes EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  THIS IS WHY I FEEL UNAPPRECIATED AND THAT I DON'T HAVE MY PLACE IN THIS RELATIONSHIP OR HOME!    I've been thinking about bailing out alot of times, especially these days since my boyfriend has been working nights from 11pm-7am and that we don't do anything anymore; like going out or having some time to ourselves....especially when his daughter is at home(one week).  We argue alot about finances, fitness, babysitting, etc....these are subjects and many more that it's a one way street..only his say!  I'm getting tired and frustrated,....Please help!

 

 

If it is always his way & he is always right, you are fighting a losing battle. It has been 8 years like this; your boyfriend isn't going to change. The only way this situation is going to change is if you begin making positive changes in yourself. Do what makes you feel happy & gives you that feeling of fulfillment at the end of the day. If your boyfriend doesn't like it, then you know that his #1 priority is himself. If he truly loves you then he would want to be in an equal partnership with you; he would want to create those positive changes in your relationship that would bring about fulfillment for BOTH of you. Right now, he isn't interested- he is only interested in being right.
 
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February 11, 2009, 8:21 am PST

prideful?

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My sister is 27 years old and she seems to always have a chip on her shoulder about me. I am 24 and a college student who works part time. My sister has not had a very easy life, she has been in trouble and she has had problems figuring out who she is. My life has come a little easier to me, I was in trouble once in high school, learned my lesson and straightened up my act. I am now in college and have a very bright future. I am going into social work and would like to work for the government so of course, I can not have any sort of record. Well, this last summer my sister was pulled over without insurance and expired tabs. She was driving wth the conditions that she could not have any moving violation within a year otherwise she would lose her license. So, she gave my name to the cop and a few months later I got a letter in the mail stating that I am being sent into collections and have a court date for not paying my fines. Prior to this letter my sister did attempt to pay the fines, without telling me about the situation, and her check bounced. She was going to pay the fine and leave on my record a driving without a license, insurance, and expired tabs with two underage children in the car. Since then, I found a lawyer got all of the charges dropped. My sister will be taken to Court for this, without my filing any charges. She seems as though she feels no remorse for all the hastle and jeopradizing of my future that she put me through. For months I felt as though she owed me an apology and she thinks I am a bitch because I would not take the wrap for her and, "her life is so perfect and I am nothing but a mess up" (quote from my sister). She played the victim. I decided to give up on wanting an apology and I just forgave her in my heart. I have tried getting along with her and telling her that I love her, but she now says that I am not her sister and she puts words in my mouth. I do not know what to do. It kills me that she is so prideful and that she is turning this situation around on me as though it is my fault that we are having problems. She is the one that had me sent into collections and almost caused me to lose my license. I still love her though, she is my sister and I would do almost anything for her, but I am not going to jeopradize myself because she can't keep herself out of trouble. Someone please help me out here, I am at a loss. I almost just want to call it a loss but I love her too much to not have her be a part of my life. Plus, my neices mean the world to me and I am very close to them, this could affect them also.
I don't see your sister's actions as being too prideful; I see them as being selfish. She knew that what she was doing was wrong when she gave your name & information, but she did it anyway. She is finding it much easier to be mad at you about this situation, because otherwise, she would have to admit that what she did was wrong & that it is her fault. Instead, it is easier to blame anyone else. It is great that you have forgiven your sister. You don't have to cut her out of your life. Instead, don't bring up this incident, talk about her kids and anything positive that is going on in her life- focus only on the positive. I wish you the best!
 
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February 11, 2009, 1:45 pm PST

Why demonize the mother?

People, these children are here- they are alive and they are innocent, precious children. How is publicly demonizing their mother going to help them in any way?
Yes, her decision to have so many children is not the choice most people would make, but again, those babies are already here. That decision is done & over with, there is no way to change it or take it back.
There are so many posts here that are full of anger towards the mother. It would be wonderful if there was a way to take one quarter of this anger, turn it into understanding and compassion, and extend it to this mother.
 
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February 11, 2009, 2:26 pm PST

What is best

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The comment was made that she didn't know or plan to have eight children  and she was told she would probably only have one or maybe two.  My questions is why was she having any?  At the time she was unable to provide for the six children she had. 

 

Another comment was made about her being  very religious.  I question then how much faith she has in God.  Did she ever consider that having children of her own was not in Gods plan for her since she as not able to have them on her own.  I have a real problem with somebody making a statement about being very religious but yet does not seem to be living or listening to God.   Her being a "strong Christian" woman should not be used as an excuse for this situation because the fact is that if she truly was a strong Christian  women she would be putting her children first instead of herself.  My heart truly aches at this situation.    

 

I agree she needs some mental and emotional help.  I hope she gets it. 

However I really hope her kids receive help.  My heart hurts with the thought that they will be the ones who pay the price for this situation. 

 

I think the best thing for all involved is for those children to be taken and at least have a chance at a normal life with other families.  Of course putting these children in the system scares me also but I believe they would at least have a better chance then the situation they were born into. 

 

We need to pray for all her kids everyday! 

I agree these children should have a chance at living a normal, healthy life- but I don't agree that taking them away from their mother is the way to have that life. Taking them away from their biological mother isn't the answer. I think that to approach the mother with kindness & understanding in the best way to ensure the children will be also given kindness & understanding. Demonizing her & taking her children away will have no positive effects.
 
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February 27, 2009, 10:39 am PST

Its understandable

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A year and a half. I just kinda need to write it out.

In all fairness he's not really a bad guy, he's just a guy.. I'm 21 he's 22.
To start, I wasn't fully ready to move in with him. I wasn't sure, I thought, "what if it doesn't work out and then I have no where to go?" But at 19 my parents kicked me out because he was renting on his own and they wanted to give my room to one of my younger brothers.
Things started ok, but they always do or you just don't bother getting in to the relationship in the first place. My friend says it's called the, "Honeymoon Phase."  Where in the first year or two everythings all great and happy and you love eachother it just seems to be the way things were meant to happen.
Eventually, the guys  --in my experiences--  start to get lazy. Remember when they used to try to impress you by keeping the house tidy? Not anymore they don't. They've won you, now it's your job to babysit them.
Feed them, clean up after them, hold their hand while they play video games.  --Not literally of course, I play video games too and that would be very difficult--
I don't want to become my mother because I've never seen, all through my life, that she's truely deep down happy. It's just never been there for her. Things just are the way they are to her and that's that. She cooks, cleans, works and runs all the errands. My dad works, comes home and complains about the house, eats and complains about the food. Finds out a week or two in advance that she's going to have some time to herself or see one of her female friends, and throws a fit.
I.. Am working, coming home and cleaning, taking the garbage to the dump after cleaning, cooking right after work so he can eat before he goes to bed.. And I'm not happy with it.
We've made deals and they've not stuck, first when I had a different job and different hours, I'd cook for us and he was supposed to do the dishes. But I cooked and he came home.. Walked in with his dirty shoes on. Had a shower, ate and played video games until bed.
Then I got a different job, different hours. So we changed the ever-failing deal. He'd cook for us and I'd do the dishes. He cooked for himself and left no food for me, but expected me to clean up after him. So I told him if he was only cooking for himself was going to clean up after himself. Then he started making enough for me to eat left overs. His messes still all over the house.
We've talked over and over and over and it's not fixed a thing. Of course he thinks it has because he gives it a quick fix in which he'll maybe.. Ok example.. He drinks 3-5 cans of pepsi a day, after a month or so i'll notice that the empty cans have piled up between the couch and the wall because he kicks them there so he doesn't have to put them away. So I'll ask him to please pick them up and after a few days of whining about having to do it.. He picks about 2/3rds of them up and leaves everything else he's disgarded throughout the house.
The place is falling apart but it's simply maintenance matters the landlords are required to attend to. However, they don't know that anythings wrong because he wont let them know. Two summers ago I was trying to close the cheap screen swing-door and the top glass panel fell out and almost broke my fingers, it's still sitting on the living room floor. The toilet could fall through the floor any day. The doorknobs inside the house are only 2 years old but extremely cheap and keep locking us in and out of rooms, here's the catch.. They don't have locks on them. The furnace kicks in dust from the 6 chicken barns next door when it turns off. The sattelite doesn't work. The kitchen wall is coming apart. The dryer doesn't dry, and the washing machine doesn't like to wash.
I've asked him on several occasions if we could move, to somewhere a little bigger, that we could choose together. Somewhere that I might fit in with him. I moved in a year and a half ago after he begged me to, and I wasn't sure about it but my parents kicked me out.. And everything I own is still sitting in boxes behind the couch. Once I asked, "Can we move soon please? I'd really like to be able to put at least some of my things somewhere other than in a box behind the couch. I just don't fit here." And he replied, "Of course you fit, the boxes don't have to stay behind the couch. There's plenty of closet space."
About a year ago we were at a pub with two of our friends, one male one female. Drinking and having fun, and he decides to tell me he wants to see me have sex with the girl. She's a lesbian who was competing with him for me before we started going out. So to me the concept was no different than if he tells me he wants to see one of our guys friends with me.
We talked about that.. But the talks never last right? So over and over it happened. Stopped seeing her very often, because now I was uncomfortable around her, because now he was encouraging her to molest me, grope me, and pull my clothes off  when she was around 'cause he wanted to watch.
So.. After all this uncomfortableness, I started to really consider the whole relationship situation. Then his younger sister (17) moved in with us from her relatives in Oklahoma,   --Difficult to explain his family situation-- and that was extremely difficult because 17 year olds are hard to live with. Especially when they seem to be chronic liars. Throwing tantrums constantly.
I'm one who really enjoys her sex, a lot. I'd almost never turn it down from whom I'm in a relationship with. But on occasion I'd not be in the mood, beit because I was stressed or whatever. At first he'd just whine at me really unattractively that he wanted sex and I should give it to him. Then eventually the stress for me became more with his sister living there, and the encouraging my friend to just go ahead and sleep with me and I began to want to have sex with him a little less. And so he turned to guilting me, and then getting somewhat.. I wouldn't say angry that I wouldn't give it too him whenever he wanted it.. But.. Lets say, certainly very displeased.
Eventually with all this uncomfortableness, not going away no matter how often we talked it through, I began to spend more and more time out of the house. After work I'd go to Tim Hortons or visit my brothers or my best friend.. And he definately started getting angry about that. He also was really unhappy when I wouldn't come to bed with him even though he has a morning job and I start work at 4pm every day.
He's always taken "verbal stabs" with anti-woman comments and such, but more and more often as the relationship went on. I'm pretty sure most of those really were just jokes, but some of the more sexist things or just flat-out insulting things he said, he'd say and then gauge my reaction before saying, "Oh my GOD! It was just a JOKE! You can't even take a JOKE! GOD!"
So it was getting close to New Years, 2009 and I was feeling really depressed, and thinking hard about the way the relationship was going, so I sat him down and talked about it. I told him I was thinking of moving out for a while, because things didn't seem to be going well and maybe some time on my own would help.
And he cried, and then he said,  --and I didn't realize just how red-flaggish it was at the time-- "No.. You can't move out. If you do, you'll realize you're happier without me and you wont come back.."
So.. I decided not too, and things continued to feel bad.. Suffocating.. Hurtful..
Until last week.. I thought about it again, relayed it to my best friend, my second best friend, one of my brothers.. They all seemed to agree that it would be better for me because the relationship has reached a seriously unhealthy rut and he has made no accomodations for me to feel like I even belong where I was living with him.
'K now here's the.. Strangest part for me.. I don't know if I'll ever get back together with my boyfriend even though he's going insane right now contacting everyone I know, to talk to them and figure out how to help himself get me back. He says he finally realizes what I meant this weekend when I said I can't ask him to change because he can't change for me. His boss gave him a week off work because he's gone in to such shock about it that his boss is afraid it will affect his work performance. He's going to see a counselor, starting Monday. He sat down with one of my older female friends and her husband of 16 years to make a list of all the things he doesn't like about himself that he wants to make better.. But here's the biggest part ever.. Even if he does.. Do better. I don't know if I can ever take him back, because he wants kids one day. And I don't. And I can't take that chance away from him.
But the strangest part.. because I've never.. Been like this.. My second best friend just happened to break up with his girlfriend for very similar reasons too.. We're both reaching out to eachother for companionship.. Emotional.. And physical.. And neither of us is cheating, but...... I don't understand.. Why I don't feel guilty about it.... ? I should, because here's my ex putting in so much work.. Maybe too late..?.. But, I feel bad about not feeling bad.... But... I don't want a relationship for a while now.... My friend and I are both just reaching out for companionship.... Maybe I was just raised to believe that's wrong.. And that's why I'm worried I should feel horrible about it but don't.... Or maybe I should.... I don't know....


You shouldn’t feel badly about your ex. His efforts are simply too late! It makes you wonder why didn’t he “see” all this stuff before, and are his efforts really ‘real,’ or are they all an elaborate act to get you back to him & then he’ll drop the act & everything will be exactly the way that it was. You know that you don’t want that, you’ve had enough, and you are showing your strength and courage by staying away from this man and that old relationship. You are ready to move forward, and in your next relationship, when/if you see any of those ‘red flags’ - those character traits that your ex has - you will have the knowledge to leave that relationship ASAP. You can think of that relationship as a ‘life learning experience.’

As for sleeping with your close friend’s ex- what would happen if your close friend found out? Would she be hurt? Would you be hurt if you discovered one of your close friends was sleeping with your ex, even though you do not want to be back with him? Something to think about.

 
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February 27, 2009, 11:14 am PST

fiance's daughter

Quote From: errn2005

     I became engaged to a man with an 8 year old daughter. He divorced his wife 5 years ago and gave up parental rights due to his job (railroad) and usually has to barter his time with his daughter. I do not interfere with his time with her, and the few times we have all been together, I am more concerned with his parenting than her behavior.

    He has a habit of getting her something from the store when she is "good", and once I suggested that maybe "daddy so get a prize for teaching you to be good". Her reply was her mother taught her to be good. He did not comment which suprized me. This past Christmas he had to leave her with Grandma for a total of 2 days due to the job. When he returned, his desk his deceased father left him had glitter all over it, toys were all over the bedroom, and downstairs didn't look any better according to him. When I called to make sure he got home okay, he said he would have called me that he arrived safely but he was upset about the  way things looked and that she did not want to clean up. I looked at the phone in disbelief and then told him to stop talking about it with her and get a large trash bag and scoop up all the stuff she didnt want to clean up including new Chrirstmas toys. When she decided she wants to clean she could take one thing from the bag. That seemed to work, although she didn't get all the stuff back and didnt seem to miss it.

       We got engaged the day after Christmas. His daughter went with us, because he said she wanted to help me pick out my ring. I was floored, don't really need help with that, and said that if she went., so did my boys ( aged 17 and 16). He said no problem. Then we went to eat dinner, he wanted to pay for it, usually I do because he is making up back child support and alimony payments. He wanted to go to Red Lobster, she didn't want to. I suggested Olive Garden. The time was spent convincing her to eat and sit still. Not my ideal ring day, or spending it with the man I love, really didnt want my boys there either.

        He frequently tells her, "dont tell Mommy we did or didnt do this or that" which I think is unfair. I also think she tells her mom everything, including me getting my ring. Soon after he got an emal from her congratulating him and how nice that their daughter went to help pick out the ring. He did not tell the ex, and I sure didnt.  I think his daughter has learned quickly how to play these two and this mommy dont play that.

        Any advice I get will be appreciated, including critiqing me. I am not wearing rose colored glasses, but dont want to be unfair either.  Thanks!

 

Does your fiance express regret about giving up his parental rights? Also, I don’t understand something; if he legally gave up his parental rights, how can he be responsible for child support? I’m sure that you can clarify those issues so that I can have a better understanding of your situation.

Like you already said- the biggest concern is your fiance’s parenting skills, not really the way that the child acts. She is only acting in a way that she has learned to act- a way that gets her exactly what she wants, when she wants it. Since you are engaged to this man, you have promised to spend the rest of your life with him, it is important that you express to him that you feel he needs to learn more effective parenting skills. When you approach him, be sure that you are calm so that you don’t provoke a defensive response from him. You might start out by saying something like, “I know that you love *child’s name* very much, and you have guilt about not spending as much time with her as you wish you could, but, it is important that she has consistent, predictable rules in place when she comes to be with you…” Explain to him that by not having rules and by not enforcing boundaries (example: sit still, eat dinner or we are leaving- and then, you really actually leave!) he is teaching her to be disrespectful; and that he is perfectly fine with her behavior. Assure him that you know he does not really feel that way; but that is what the little girl is learning. Then the two of you have to talk & come to an understanding about exactly how he will be more of a leader for her, and exactly how you might be able to help when you are there. Then go on to let him know you don’t want to over step your boundaries; you are only saying these things because you love him & you want to see him raise a happy, healthy child.

When he tells his child not to tell her mother things, that is the worst thing he could do. She is going to tell her mother anyway- so he is doing more harm then good. For what reason was she not supposed to tell her mom that he got engaged? There is no reason to keep such secrets. Also, it creates an atmosphere of unhealthy secrecy, and he shouldn’t be putting that upon his child. If there is stuff he doesn’t want his ex to know, then his child shouldn’t know that stuff either. I wish you the best- you’ve got a long road ahead of you!

 

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