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September 7, 2005, 8:35 am PDT

09/06 "Fighting for My Children" Follow-up

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It is obvious he/she is not emotionally all together.  He/she has no right to your children.  Why do you need to be involved with he/she the rest of your life.  He/she was a mistake, why carry it on.  I think Dr. Phil is wrong on this one.  The children do not need he/she in their lives.  You need to get on with your life with out he/she.  I think this is crazy that this is even a big discussion.  You are crazy if you allow this to be a legal battle if you don't have to.  They are your children.  Michael doesn't deserve to share a second longer unless you decide to allow it.  Why do you even consider this?
I don't think she has a choice.  The court has repeatedly awarded him custody, if I am not mistaken, and merely given her visitation.  He is their legal father, which I believe was established on the first episode on which they appeared. 
 
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September 16, 2005, 6:17 pm PDT

I agree, and another petty comment

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It hurts me so much to see parents loving their children based on their looks.  I do have a beautiful two year old daughter, but I can't imagine loving her any less if she were ugly.  I don't love her for the way she looks--I love her b/c...well...I'm her mom and b/c I see her value as a beautiful human being...on the inside.  I don't think that's any sort of "super mom" quality either--thankfully I don't know any other moms who base their love for their children on their looks.   

I know this is really, really petty, but as an English lit instructor at a university, I just want to say that the mom who loved her "pretty" daughter more than her "ugly" one had rather wretched grammar, and that was rather ugly to me.   

I was outraged at Victoria's mother.  I can't even express how angry I was.   

  

How in the world can you single out one child to lavish attention upon, and practically ignore the other one?!  It boggles the mind.  It makes one wonder if she really loves either of them, or if she is even capable of loving them. 

  

Then, she has the nerve to say that she loves Victoria, because she feeds and bathes her?!  I feed and bathe my dog, but that hardly puts my feelings for him on par with my feelings for my children. 

  

Dr. Phil stated that she has a stepson, which I assume means that she's married.  I wonder how her husband feels about her treating her daughter like garbage?   

  

I also have a couple of petty comments, which I would not normally make, or even think, but this woman really deserves them: 

  

She spoke about being intelligent, yet she consistently used incorrect grammar, and she couldn't seem to quite grasp her own hypocrisy, even when Dr. Phil pointed it out to her.  Also, she speaks about being pretty, and said that if her elder daughter went through an awkward phase she would "fix it," yet she hasn't bothered to fix her own teeth.  The front ones looked crooked.  She may want to get them fixed, lest someone think she's "scum."   

  

 
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October 13, 2005, 2:51 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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 Just because she did not have a black eye or a bruised face does not mean that he did not abuse her. Don't assume things based on appearances.
Her family said he emotionally and physically abused her.  If this were true (and I think it's a big if) why didn't her family stop her from seeing him?  She was 17 years old.  It is their job to protect her from this sort of thing. 
 
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August 30, 2007, 8:37 am PDT

What??

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It is so wrong to put children in the middle of this sort of tug-of-war. Keri has the right to feel however she wants, but she should learn to keep it to herself or tell her girl friends about it. So long as the children have to go to their father's house and deal with Julie, they need to believe that all the adults in their lives are decent, trustworthy people.

As for bitterness. Please. Why not? If some woman at work took my husband from me and broke up our home, I would despise her for the rest of my life. Julie deserves Keri's hatred. If Julie didn't want an ex-wife and step-children to deal with she shouldn't have set her cap for a married man.

Did you even watch the show?  First, I don't think there is a Julie in this scenario.  It's Keri and Cari.

 

Second, Keri cheated on Ken!  Twice!  It was established that he didn't get together with Cari until after Keri had moved out with her boyfriend.  How did Cari break up their home?  She didn't force Keri to have affairs, and she didn't force Keri to move out and in with another man.  Just because Keri was married to Ken does not mean he is her property for the rest of her life.  He's entitled to move on. 

 

Cari seems to love her step-children, and it's unreasonable to expect anyone to put up with someone like Keri.  I don't know how anyone would believe anything she said - she lied right to Dr. Phil's face about the child support.

 
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August 31, 2007, 3:18 am PDT

Were we watching the same show?!

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I thought I was the only one who thought that Mom was getting a pretty raw deal on the show and that Dad and new girlfriend were getting off pretty easy.  There was not a lot of talk about how the KIDS would benefit from Dads money.  It was all put on Mom that she was bitter.  My kids know I love them and they have never been to Disneyland.  Anyone who thinks Disneyland makes up for alienating children needs to wake up.

The kids would benefit from the child support.  I don't know their specific arrangement, however, when one parent receives cash assistance from the government, the government agency will not allow them to receive the child support being paid by the absent parent.  You can get one or the other, but not both.  If the children would benefit more from receiving the child support than the government assistance, then their mother needs to continue to choose not receive the government assistance.  It's basically up to Keri whether she receives child support or not.  Frankly, I think she is choosing not because of her "oh, poor me," attitude.  It's very shocking to think that he lives the way he does, and she has to be on public assistance, until you realize she is choosing to live that way.  

 

What I would have liked Dr. Phil to address is why Keri isn't working to support her children.  They are not solely Ken's children, and they are not solely his responsibility to support.  Working for the "welfare office," as I do, I know that the income guidelines for cash assistance are EXTREMELY low.  She couldn't be working and receiving. 

 

I think it was all put on Keri because she was bitter, and practically every time she spoke she either out and out lied, or bent the truth.  Cari showed no comtempt or disdain for the children, and yet people on here are accusing her of disliking her stepchildren!  I can't believe the number of people who are siding with her on this message  board.  I think there are a lot of people on this board who saw what they wanted to see, and not what was really there.   

 
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September 6, 2007, 8:49 am PDT

09/05 Family Follow-up

Quote From: brendlena123

I don't understand why the father didnt have to take the test.  Sometimes people who have experienced abuse in their childhoods can come across as having mental issues and the whole family uses them as a scapegoat.  I truly hope that because she was so mean that people dont just love to hate her and dismiss her accusations.

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No one HAD to take the test.  The original show was about backstabbers.  The issue was between the two sisters.  If Stacy's husband did not want to sit on a national stage and endure more of his SIL's accusing, I don't blame him. 

 

This follow-up was just more of the issue between the sisters.  Again, there was no reason for him to come if he chose not to.

 

He has already been exonerated by the police, the DA, and CPS.  He is not required to prove his innocence to his SIL or to Dr. Phil's viewers.  Everyone who matters was satisfied that nothing is/was going on.

 

I don't believe that Christy has an interest in protecting her sister's children.  She said as much herself.  She said she wanted to stop the violence and abuse in her family.  Well, there is a really easy way to do that - just leave Stacy and her husband and children alone. 

 

 

 

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