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January 12, 2007, 9:15 am PST

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Quote From: afraid

what is outrageous about giving the police a pat on the back? wow, you know even if they have had to arrest me in my past years they were only doing there jobs, and i for one do not hate them for that, if i hadent broken the laws i wouldnt have been arrested, had i not been arrested i would not have gotten the help i needed to get off of drugs, had i not gotton off drugs my child would not have a parent now, his mother lost custody to me and hauled ass many years ago. i guess what my point would be if you keep your ass on the side of our laws that your suppose to keep it on, you really dont have to worry about weather the police are going to ask you any questions or not. but if you should find your self sitting in front of a cop and hes askin you weather you killed your parents or not or if you killed your girl friend or not, DONT TELL HIM I CANT REMEMBER, damn that shure as hell would make me think just maybe you did infact do it, i mean just what the f#&@ kind of answer is i cant remember, im not sure i dont know?the way i would read it would be- i cant remember= im not telling you+ im not sure=i did it but im wating for a deal+i dont know=hell yeah i did it but i dont want to tell you im not sure what is going to happen to me.
What is outrageous is you saying here in Georgia we don't have problems with police going over the line when its happening all the time. It's like saying I took a shower and didn't even get wet. Do you never read the papers or watch anything other than Dr.Phil? My brother once saw 2 police officers beating a guy that was so drunk he could barely stand much less fight back.  Sure there are some truly good cops, but for you to say we don't have the same problems here is just not true. And sometimes you can get arrested for something you didn't do. There are people in prisons in every state serving time for crimes they didn't commit.  And Georgia is definity one of them. No state is immune from having over zealous cops. And for you to keep saying what you would do in a situation you have never been in is also outrageous. You can never know just what you would do in any given set of circumstances unless you have actually been there. You can't know how bad something is until you feel it. Usually the person most surprised at how you react somtimes in a situation is you, yourself.
 
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January 12, 2007, 9:35 am PST

01/09 False Confessions

Quote From: afraid

well you need to teach your son if he tells the truth he has nothing to fear from the laws of man nor from the laws of god himself. and this is from Georgia i tell you this, Ive had first hand experience with the sheriffs dept and the local police all my life and i am yet to see a cop go over the line with any one, hell i guess I'm just the lucky guy all the cops seemed to pick to try to show the good cop side too  lol, i learned early in life that police of every type are human beings, and with that in mind i treat them with the respect they deserve,after all if someone breaks in my home to murder my family there the guys and gals I'm going to call, its them that will enter my home not knowing what door way a murderer is hiding behind waiting to kill one of them, but they will search my home and either arrest the person that came to kill me or shoot them in order to make my home that i just thought was safe a safe place for me to sleep once again,they will put there very lives on the line and ask nothing in return but maybe a few questions, and I'm sure as hell not going to sit there and tell them i cant remember i don't know I'm not sure. I'm going to answer there questions with the truth nothing but the truth so help me god. after all the police will give his life to keep you alive doesn't he or she at the very least deserve us all to tell them nothing but the truth? a lie may just cost one of them there life, you never know, i sure as hell wouldn't want that on my conscience. one must remember lies can and will cose police there lives, and that isnt fair for there wives or kids, not fair for them most of all.!
Well you know he was telling them the truth at the time, but you see it wasn't what they wanted to hear. They wanted him to let them have something that didn't belong to him. And during this time they deliberately destroyed some of his personal property. As in throwing his new laptop on the floor and stomping it. He was staying with a friend and they trashed this guys home, and wanted to open a safe that belonged to my son's friend. They told my son if he would just say it's your's we can open it. And we'll also drop some of your charges. He told them the truth , that the safe is not mine. So the officer in charge had him charged with things that he didn't do. He was lucky in that at least one of the deputies told the truth and most of his charges was dropped. But one out of the approximate 10 that was there that night is about 9 too few. And one must also remember that the lies the police tell can also cost an innocent person their freedom. And it's a lot easier to get sent to prison for a crime you didn't commit, than to be released after a guilty verdict if it's found that someone else is really guilty. And just for the record my son did deserve to go to prison. He was guilty of a probation violation, just not the things that the deputies tried to charge him with that night. There is a saying the goes something like this, "It is better to let a hundred guilty people go free, then for even one innocent person to go to prison."  While I'm not sure I totally agree with that, I do think that coercing people into false confessions is WRONG.
 
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January 17, 2007, 7:44 am PST

HELLO!!!!!!

These people did not just wake up one day and decide they were in the wrong bodies. They have lived with these feelings their entire lives. From when they were small children they felt something was wrong. Everyone has a right to their opinion on this subject. But considering all the hatred, nasty comments and rejection they have to endure, do any of you really think that this is what they wanted in life. To be looked upon as a freak and a pervert. They want what all of us want. They just want to be the best person they can and for the people they love to accept them and love them for what they are inside.
 
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January 17, 2007, 8:01 am PST

01/17 Gender Identity Crisis

Quote From: shetypes

I'd hope we learned to not blame a higher power for our mistakes?  All the household cleaning chemicals alone is outrageous.  Most water is chemically treated, bottled water was tested and found not as safe as most faucet water?  Food filled with color, flavors? Medications scripted out for everything from in grown toe nails to sleeping aids? I don't think they really know all the effects of a woman taking birth control pills over time to the future generations?  I know we minimzed alot of polution but the effects is still with us.  I think the gene pool is made up from 4 generations on each side?  That is alot of potential for what could be a problem if both parents

carry samy links to problems to thier children?

 

The Bathroom?  Boys = male gender  Girls = female gender !  It is about the gender physically!

We cannot risk some court battle that ends up making bathrooms not private to genders! 

 

How we live, how the generations of dumping oils and chemicals in our ground made mistakes,

diets, medications and life style made mistakes.  Now the children are paying for it.

thats not Gods fault, it ours.

I think you watch too much of the SiFi channel!!!!
 
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January 17, 2007, 8:06 am PST

01/17 Gender Identity Crisis

Quote From: sirtriz

Thank you.  You are right.  Genetalia is only one aspect of what makes us male or female.  Some transgender people, particularly female-to-male, never have genital surgery...and even if they do, the results are limited.  So, one must consider, what kind of man do I want to be in the world?  How do I want to treat a woman I may be with?  I resolved within myself that I want to be a man of good character, ethics, compassion, manners, etc.  I wanted to express my masculinity in honorable ways.  The last thing I wanted was to turn into just another jerk of a man.  Your maleness or your femaleness is more than your body.  However, it is still important to feel at home in your body as best you are able.  Whether your body appears male, female, large, or small...we all want to feel like we belong in it.
I wish you all the happiness in life.
 
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January 18, 2007, 9:02 am PST

01/18 Mr. Wrong

Quote From: coopjake

OK, so let's assume that the lighter fluid incident was an accident......

 

So how about a man living without an income, no electricity, charges for cruelty to a family cat, which I'm sure the children had a bond, not seeking medical attention for a 4-year-old, and filthy living conditions.

 

Nope, doesn't sound like it all happened by accident.  Simply sounds like a case of not taking responsibility for one's actions without regard for the innocent. 

 

Although we only know what was presented on the show it was enough for me to question both parents' ability to protect their children. 

 

I think Kelly and her husband are doing the only thing they know how to do to protect their grandchildren.  I give Kelly credit for stepping up to the plate to avoid having her grandchildren in the foster care system, which we all know is not perfect.  Although there are many wonderful, loving foster families (have one living next door), there are an equal number of foster homes that are sub par and downright dangerous.  I would question any grandparent's character for not doing the same, with senior health problems excluded of course.  I'm sure Kelly didn't plan on spending her golden years starting over raising children but thank heaven that she is.  And to say they are doing it for $246.00/month in disability and child support (Which is based on the parent(s) ability to pay.), is ridiculous and an insult to the rest of us parents that know what it costs to raise healthy, well-fed, educated and socially stimulated children. 

 

Maybe one day Earl and Heather can petition the court for visitation, but the courts obviously have enough evidence at this point in time to sever the relationship. 

It would appear that this person has another agenda here. Maybe she's speaking from a past experience on her part. The show hasn't aired where I live yet,  but I read the website and I didn't get the impression the grandmother is evil. Just trying to do what is best for the kids. And what kind of idiot would let a small child suffer burns like that, without seeking medical attention? I'm not a medical person either but I know when to take a child to the doctor for a burn like that!!!
 
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January 18, 2007, 10:30 am PST

01/18 Mr. Wrong

Quote From: manofgoods

There are good men out in this world, like myself, as well as good women out in this world. But why is it that good women love bad men, & why is it that good men love bad women? That's what I don't seem to get. Whenever a man/woman has been cheated on constantly, being abused, or anything else, that good person still happens to love them & still be with them. Talk about having low self esteem! For me, I like good women, as well as bad ones too (but only to help them & change them). I don't judge or condemn anyone, just always like to help them out.

Why do good men love bad women?

Why do good women love bad men?

There is no one size fits all answer to those questions. For every person has a reason for making the choices that they do. You say you like to help and change them. What if they don't want to change?

 
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January 18, 2007, 10:49 am PST

01/18 Mr. Wrong

Quote From: mistyc

Please tell me your post was a joke.  Heather and Earl weren't fit to raise animals and you are suggesting that there children be returned to them because "accidents happen"

I have a gut feeling that that was Heather or someone that knows them that posted the one you replied to. How else could you explain the venom in it?

 
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January 18, 2007, 10:57 am PST

01/18 Mr. Wrong

Quote From: lvacffeshp

No, Misty C this is not a joke.  I am NOT suggesting that the children be returned to Heather and Earl at this time.  I AM SUGGESTING THEY RECEIVE VISITATION.  I think it IS WRONG for Cliff and Kelly to use the children as a PAWN or a WEAPON.  )   So Kelly takes on Heather's 3 children, but THROWS HEATHER AWAY like she is a piece of garbage.  THIS I DON'T AGREE WITH.   ALL KELLY'S GOOD DEEDS to me are canceled out by her refusing to let Heather around her children.  I mean look at the other guy... a guy in prison has visitation with 2 little girls that aren't even his????  Now we have a mother who chose to be a mother who wants to see her kids.....  IF THE FOSTER PARENTS WERE NOT EMOTIONALLY INVOLVED IN THE SITUATION:  SHE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO SEE THEM.

 

Yes, I agree there are things that need to be dealt with, with Earl and Heather, BUT HEATHER DESERVES TO SEE HER KIDS.  And if not:  MAYBE KELLY DOESN'T DESERVE TO SEE HEATHER SO SHE CAN FEEL WHAT SHE IS DOING TO HEATHER......  regardless of Heather's cleanliness issues........

Granted there is a women who had children, three of them. But she also CHOSE not to care for them. She CHOSE her husband over the well being of her children. As for Heather seeing her mother, thats Heather's decision to make. She's 25 years old. But you are acting like a spoiled two year old on this board.
 
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January 18, 2007, 11:45 am PST

01/18 Mr. Wrong

Quote From: speakerjunkie

Well first of all, I must start out by saying that I am a little biased in this situation because Sarah, the woman married to the man in prison, is my sister. However, I do know first hand what their situation is like. Sarah is happy and I support any decision she makes 100% as long as the outcome makes her happy. She has known Willy, her husband, for a long time. It's not like she just met some guy in prison and decided to throw her life away. They were friends before he was ever locked up. They have history together. Not only that, but why should she settle for some guy out here with money that can take care of her and her children, etc if that type of guy wouldn't make her happy? She's already found the person that fulfills her spiritually. I think it's admirable for someone these days to marry for love as opposed to what they can do financially or physically for one another. I've been there when these two have visited eachother and they are so in love. The words spoken between them are romantic in a way I've never seen between a couple out here. Knowing my sister and her history in the love department, I'm completely happy for her and I don't care what anyone says. Don't judge them for you're not in their shoes. It's not your authority to judge their actions.

If  Sarah is so happy in this relationship, WHY did she appear on the show? What was she trying accomplish, or say? As for the posts here, well if you can't take the opinions of these people you should refrain from reading them. That is the purpose of these message boards.
 

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