Quote From: futurebound I watched this show and listened carefully. The girl who had been in treatment three times and thought she was "getting better". And her "friend" who had been through treatment and now only went clubbing twice a month. This is denial in it's worst and most active form. You DO NOT go through treatment and continue to use. These two are "enabling" each other. If you party to the point you are losing control, you have an addiction problem.
The other girl who wanted to find a "happy medium". Dream on. I speak from personal experience. When I attended my first AA meeting over 25 years ago I also wanted a happy medium. I truly believed in my heart of hearts that these people at AA were going to teach me how to drink! I wanted to know how to party, get one or two hours sleep, go to work at my excellent job, care for my daughter and still party EVERY night.
If you're a Twelve Stepper, you already know I did not get the answers I wanted. So, I went back to the party. I'd figure it out myself. I did, too.
After getting loaded nearly 24/7 for 20 years, I finally went into treatment. I wanted this more than the air I breathed. I was a complete and total mess and I was going to die if I didn't do something.
I found out I could never drink. No, I'm not a weenie! I have a disease called alcoholism. Back in the day I could drink till the cows came home and left again. So it was not that "I" couldn't handle it. My body and brain and emotions and spirit couldn't handle it. And believe me, I did try any and every way to do controlled drinking.
Oh, and Dr. Phil...no disrespect but I did hear you say that "people" were saying you are not qualified to address this issue because you are not and never were a drinker. Those people are right. You cannot truly address this addiction thing unless you are an addict in active recovery. By addict, I mean drugs or alcohol.
You are what I call a "Book Person". All your "experience" has come from a book. You have learned a lot and are really smart on this subject but, only up to a point.
When a person is going through rehab, their day is filled with nothing but recovery. My experience in treatment was excellent. The only time I squirmed a little was when a speaker came in to talk to us and they were a "Book Person". They have memorized a book and that is all. They have tons of valuable information, but no practicum hours.
So now I must say to the "friend" who went through rehab and now only parties twice a month, YOU ARE HEADED FOR DISASTER!!! If your problem was so bad that you had to go to rehab then you should never again drink or drug.
I know from my own experiences, (I went to rehab, had 8 years sober, relapsed and went to rehab again), it is EXTREMELY difficult and nearly impossible to get into a treatment center! So, if you really went through rehab then you had to have been a basket case and maybe even near death to get into rehab! There are SO MANY sincere and desperate folks trying to get treatment and there is always a waiting list.
What I'm saying is, you had to be really messed up to get into treatment so WHY ARE YOU STILL DRINKING AND PARTYING!!!!!!!!!
You are in denial and have no business partying and NO BUSINESS WHATEVER giving your friend advice. To me you are telling her to go to rehab to learn how to do controlled partying!! This attitude of complete denial will get both you and your friends killed.
And Dr. Phil, I really felt like you supported the message these girls were sending, that being, go to rehab and learn how to party safely!!!!!
Dr. Phil, please correct this misunderstanding. If that's the message I heard from your show, then many others received the same messed up message.