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October 2, 2007, 9:08 pm PDT

You have to get DVR!!

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I had to miss the show today to take my husband to the airport and unfortunately it doesn't air here again.  I If there was one show I was ever looking forward to it was this one.

 

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I record all my episodes and watch them when I can.  My kids laugh at me for that and these message boards!  Anyway- the secret was that Jack was a manipulative jerk.  He threatened to tell something she confided in him that was painful from her past because he wanted to hurt her.  It worked she became very upset and Dr. Phil called him out on it.  The secret is safe (for the moment) but as Dr. Phil pointed out he will probably use it as leverage again.  Imagine confiding something to someone that you have never told anyone and have them use that against you!  Anyway- 2 words Ti Vo!!
 
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October 2, 2007, 9:23 pm PDT

Wow you really miminize men!

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Lots of us grew up without fathers! WHOOPEEE!!! my wife never knew her father...she found out after years of thinking he didn't know she existed that he did!!  He just didn't care.... the lord says that which does not kill us only makes us stronger!  The lord only gives you what you can handle so GET OVER IT, GROW UP KAYLA and MOVE ON with your life!!! Do you wake up every mornng? Do you have two children? A family?  Focus on that and get off your past.....Glori, Brenda stay out of it, she is an adult encourage her to lead a happy, healthy, successful life for her children's sake. They learn what they live and right now they are learning hate, anger, resentment....what kind of life are they going to have with her and your hatred leading the way?????????

How can you as a man degrade the role of father like you just did.  I am disgusted with most of the men that have written in on this board.  They want to twist it into a child support platform or minimize the importance of a father in the lives of children.  By defending this deadbeat and telling the people involved, (in your eloquent speech) "whoopee!!"  you make the parental role meaningless.  As a man do you not believe that a good father would have made a difference in Kayla's life?  NO ONE needs to bad mouth a parent  that is absent- they do that themselves by their absence. 

                    I hope that God gives you a better sense of Father because he bears that title too.

 
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October 2, 2007, 9:37 pm PDT

PS to my own quote:

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How can you as a man degrade the role of father like you just did.  I am disgusted with most of the men that have written in on this board.  They want to twist it into a child support platform or minimize the importance of a father in the lives of children.  By defending this deadbeat and telling the people involved, (in your eloquent speech) "whoopee!!"  you make the parental role meaningless.  As a man do you not believe that a good father would have made a difference in Kayla's life?  NO ONE needs to bad mouth a parent  that is absent- they do that themselves by their absence. 

                    I hope that God gives you a better sense of Father because he bears that title too.

The Lord did not say "What does not kill us makes us stronger.  Johann Wolfgang Van Goethe said that.
 
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October 2, 2007, 9:40 pm PDT

MY BAD!!

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How can you as a man degrade the role of father like you just did.  I am disgusted with most of the men that have written in on this board.  They want to twist it into a child support platform or minimize the importance of a father in the lives of children.  By defending this deadbeat and telling the people involved, (in your eloquent speech) "whoopee!!"  you make the parental role meaningless.  As a man do you not believe that a good father would have made a difference in Kayla's life?  NO ONE needs to bad mouth a parent  that is absent- they do that themselves by their absence. 

                    I hope that God gives you a better sense of Father because he bears that title too.

That quote was Nietzsche.  Von Goethe was quoting him. 

I think I better quit arguing with myself and go to bed now!! 

 
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October 2, 2007, 10:04 pm PDT

Britney

Thank you for trying to get help for Britney Spears.  As a mom I can't imagine what her mom Lynne is going through.  Britney behaves like she is mentally ill and in need of mental help.  We don't get mad at diabetics for having a pancreas disorder or MI patients for having a heart condition.  However, when it comes to disorders of the brain we tend to see people who suffer as flawed.  I am praying that she gets the help she needs before she kills herself and her poor babies are motherless!
 
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October 3, 2007, 9:05 pm PDT

The People who Want to help are Fired!

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I am a recovering addict clean for 18 years. Getting clean is hard for any addict but having to do it in the media  is so wrong. I realize she is a star but people did we learn nothing from the tragedy with Princess Di. Did the pap. ever give a second thought to putting the kids in danger. NO!!!! Instead of taking the kids why if K Fed is such a responsible person did he not try to work with Brit and help her instead of compounding the problem by taking her for a ride getting what he wanted and then taking the kids when he will not be the one to care for them. What kind of man can say he is doing right by his kids if he is not there for there mother. Why could they not stay with Brit and have a nanny take care of them tell me what is the difference.  Why was he not court ordered to take drug tests, where do you think the drugs started.  Brit has done some stupid stuff but should she really be lynched so harshly. There are parents out there using with the kids right in the same room, children dying because they found a parents stash. Other measures could be implimented, what about a court appointed nanny. If you have not walked a mile in her shoes or any addicts shoes do not presume to have a clue about where she is or what she has done. I been there people and yes I put my children through alot, and believe it or not you hate yourself for doing it. Brit is hurting but if she looses the kids it will add to the pain. True enough a certain amount of pain is a motivator but to much pain will cause you to give up. She needs to know that someone still believes in her. And she needs someone to love her through this, not judge her. I am just amazed that people on this site and others can say such cruel things. Anyway enough of my ranting. I would give anything to help her I know the exact hell she has created and now is a prisoner of. DR Phil I am so glad that you are doing this show tomorrow if anyone can reach her you can. Maybe you could even get people to back off a little. GOD BLESS YOU BRITNEY And you too DR Phil.
I think that your comment is sensitive and I wish you continued success in your life!  So many people have tried to help Britney.  Even her immediate family has been unsuccessful.  Her own mom has been "fired."  Lawyers, assistants, nannies,etc have all tried to give good advice to Britney but she is not willing to hear them.  I am sure K-Fed doesn't stand a chance reasoning with her.  We all want to see Britney get help.  She has grown up in front of our eyes and we all want the best for her.  Most of us anyway.
 
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October 3, 2007, 9:09 pm PDT

How about all the Songs?

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 I think Britney has been spiraling down ever since Justin Timberlake broke the "news" that he and Britney had sex, a long time ago. She is a small-town girl, raised in a Christian home, and I think having that information broken in such a public way sent her to a dark, shameful place. Not that having sex isn't normal behavior, but she was held up as a role model for a long time, and this had to feel like a fall from grace. The drinking, drugging and potentially losing custody of her children is the latest in a long line of behaviors that show the kind of pain she is in.
It can't help Britney that her former love is constantly singing about how she cheated, blew it, etc.  It had to drive Cameron away.  Who wants an ex to be the object of every song?
 
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October 3, 2007, 10:57 pm PDT

Be Careful what you Wish 4

Has it occurred to anyone else that maybe Sarah does not want Carrie's book published out of fear?  After living through a horror movie she toyed with publishing this book for 20 years.  If she really wanted to have it published she had to have had plenty of opportunities.  There had to have been legitimate offers from book publishers after the arrest, trial, etc.  Maybe Sarah panicked that the story was going to be really going to be published .  Now she would have it all in black and white for all to see and would have to relive the whole thing.  When she said she wished he had killed her maybe she was feeling like it was all coming back to her.  She is full of anxiety.  Carrie, I know that you are mad at your mom but I hope you will consider this.  It might not be about the money.
 
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October 4, 2007, 7:11 am PDT

Future Britney

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I've read a few of the messages on this board and I'm kind of shocked.  I'm not sure if the entries were from younger women but I think this young girl is on a path of destruction.  I have two young girls at home that are very impressionable by the music industry.  With role models like Lyndsey Lohan and Brittney Spears, you can't tell me that this girl is any different at this point.  Dr. Phil, you mentioned that we have to deal with what is in the moment, but I'm tired of hearing of a lack of guidance in these girls lives.  At 16 she was smoking, doing drugs and drinking, I think her Mother had every right to get on her case about that.  As for Marsha, why doesn't she just bud out and let them figure things out.  I think she is toxic to their relationship and needs to let them be.  Megan needs guidance, not a best friend that will let her get away with things.  Come on!!!!!  Someone has to put their foot down and let Megan know that her Mom is being a parent and she needs to hear that.
You are so right.  My thoughts exactly.  Today Dr. Phil is having a show on the train wreck of the life of Britney Spears.  He needed to give the same advice to this girl's mother.  She grounded you and wouldn't let you drink and do drugs?  Good mother!!
 
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October 4, 2007, 7:51 am PDT

You mean Post Partum Depression

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Dr. Phil,

We have all watched the rapid success that Ms. Spears was put in.  But has anyone talked to her about post-mortom depression?  Her back to back pregnancies could have caused this and why didn't anyone help her.  I watched the body guard talk and why didn't he bring this to light her problems?  Was he job so important that he looked the other way when she was doing this?  And what about her ex-husband?  He, of all people should have come forward way before now.  But I disagree with your guest about Kevin in it for the money.  That is why he married her in the first place!  I agree that she needs help and serious help and not just what  is required by the judge.  I really have to wonder who is out there with her right now and trying to help her not for the money but for the money they can get from here.  Dr. Phil is there any way that maybe you can offer your services to help her.  You out of all the people in the world would do it for your big heart and not for the money she can give her.  You have a terrific family and both you and Robin did a wonderful job raising them.  Maybe you can pass on some of your vast knowledge and frank no-nonsense approach.  I have seen the people you helped and I think maybe you might even be her last chance.  Thank you for you time.   Brenda

I am in total agreement that Britney is probably having a post PARTUM depression (or post partum psychosis.)  Not to embarass you but post mortem means "after death."  Hopefully we will not have to hear about her post mortem.
 

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