Messages By: shetypes

That is always possible, since once a child is abused and

it becomes public knowledge, they are twice as likely to be

abused again, after all abusers know that its easy to make

a child a liar.  Problem is that the events began in the Mothers

home after not seeing his child for almost 2 years, locked

door, no excuse for that!

Only the child is innocent!

Listen to HER heart!

As

He was alone while the step-Mom went to the mailbox for a

few short minutes to come back to a crying child, scared!

He was there to take her to the hospital in the middle of

the night?  He does have days off, a boss who gave him time

off but he volunteered to work rather than assure time to

clear himself so time off, umm yea I think he can?

Alone in a locked bathroom?

Dr. Phil did not focus the blame, he focused the childs

accusations and he sure did get with everyone there!

He stayed focused on the issue of a child saying she

was abused.  He repeatedly said he did not know!

As for questions in front of the camera?  All of them had that

and agreed to it!  Using 'they' from a child is not unusual at all

in this kind of issue: many perpatrators use names for themself,

thier private parts and children sometimes use 'they' because

they include the person who is not protecting them.  Did you realize

that even a sleeping person in the next room who the child may

instantly cry out for not responding is used to tell the child that

that person knows so don't bother trying to get help?  Thus the child

thinks the person not helping, saving them is 'in on it' !

She said 'it hurt'!

the Doctor called the police, so it was not just a scratch!

if it was a scratch? ummm it kept the child awake in

the early mornings hours to warrant a ER visit?

A child with any size injury in that area is unusual

and the size of an injury is rather important to note

the size of the area is very small in the first place!

He did not show the signs you are speaking of!

He paused and thought about some questions not all~

The other reactions he had was exactly like an abuser would

use and should never be confused with a disorder!

So much educating on this subject is so needed!

Fact: victims have been emotionally abused on even

this site on this subject?  They are seeing what people

do when they do not want to believe it happened.

There is Priests that got away with it for many years

because of the multitude of deffenders and who

would believe them over that adult?

'They' and 'He', a child said this and I tried to explain it in posts,

a child would use those terms for good reasons!

Multiple abusers, one of the adults there is NOT protecting

her thus part of it, perpatrator using a name like frogman

when he commits act or named parts? 

A good, experienced lie detector expert knows how to give

to just about anyone, including a person who tends to tense up.

He would also make sure drug tests, or any methods of

ways to beat a tests is considered and watched for!

there is those out ther performing these tests who do not

comply with the standards Dr. Phil requires for them?

Only one person said the Hymen was intact! Him!

He also said that Doctor told him that meant there

was no abuse?  thats a lie no matter what anyone

tells me, no true Doctor would say that! Also note

that when the child was taken to ER, the professionals

was very concerned, enough to call the police!

There is a fact that not all children even have

a hymen of significant notice so down with the

'facts' posted on thsi one, wasn't facts it was

implanted information to get a 'look good'.

He also said: 'maybe you don't realize that is what you are doing but

it needs to stop'.

Just because a Mom does not realize she is re-enforcing a bad behavior

does not mean someone who is no nonsense direct to the point as

Dr. Phil is aint gonna get with her about especially a CHILD!

he does it all the time in anything regarding a child! to anyone!

The child and only the child is innocent!

All the adults have made mistakes and sure

haven't handled it well regardless of why.

Only the child is innocent and all the

innocent until prooven guilty?  Are you saying the

child is guilty of lying>setting up her Father?

This chat room is not a court of law, it is chat,

posts with peoples opinions.  Please remember

many victims come in here and it hurts them to

see what they got long ago, called liars over an

adult!  So for sake of arguement: only the child is innocent

and when in doubt between them all let error in

judgement fall in favor of the child please.

Oh come on Please listen?  there is no blanket need or want

from anyone who is literally starving themself to death?

It is a self destructive, self injury !!!!

I do not mean to 'jump' on you but I sure would like to see

so many more people in our free country to realize that many

do not feel as free?  Inside there is something broken.  They

may very well 'get attention' and be able to show you no shame

to see but they have it inside: PAIN, SHAME and ANGER.

They have it held deep inside like a infant they are protecting from

harm, they nurture it and I guarantee you they do not understand

what is broken.  It is like a foreign language to them UNTIL they

get help IF they make it for that. 

Please note in your thoughts that what starts out with a single thought

of control in thier life becomes a train of thoughts until they are not

thinking right?   To help you understand this just compare religions?

They are vast numbers with different beliefs:  They are mostly

'convinced' they are believeing 'the right way, only way' ?

In comparison for this check how many churches are in your town alone?

Now compare that to crimes in your town?  Does it make sense?

You'd think that logic would dictate that like my town with over 200

churches the crime would be lower?  It aint?  Not everything has logic!

The 2 women sat in front of millions of people to share thier story, thier life

and their pain, anger and shame.  Doing that does not make them less hurting

nor does it mean they get the right kind of attention.  Just like so many hurting

females, they often seek the wrong kind of attention, don't ya think?

To both you of you parents and the sister: I am very well aware of your pain and frustrations.

As much as my heart goes out to the daughter and sister with this desease, I know all

too well that only they can make it change.  For you family members, many do not

realize how much it hurts and frustrates you.  The constant hurt to see it, nightmares,

other peoples judgements and often hard to find the 'right' help.  I certainly know how

you feel.  Mom: as hard as it is to accept you cannot help her with her very personal

pain, you have to stay strong for her.  That is so damned hard to do. Your baby is in

trouble and I know your many thoughts on it and the extreme nightmares.  Find a safe

way to show your pain, frustrations and anger over this, do what you can to not show

her because it feeds the guilt she already has and gives her more cravings for the

attention and fixes like when she was a little girl.  Dad, how bad you feel, I can't know what a Dad feels except what my daughters dad has said but to not be able to be strong enough for her

to feel safety from you, take your advice and watch so much you can't fix is hard.  Best

way for you to help the family you love is to keep pushing the strengths, powers that a

head of household has to.  I understand your delema and you was right to speak out on

your daughters control in the house, it is yours and your wifes and keep that!

Life has rules, unfortunately many do not see that many who have these kinds of

disorders do get all the rules and stick to them, like your house your refrig is your

business!  They also sometimes do not get that no matter what thier age they are always

our babies!  I do have advice for you, I did not see it was done?  Get legal guardianship

over your daughter as fast as you can and use that authority UNTIL she is safe!

  The sister, I am one of thseo unfortunate people who lived with losing a sister very young,

having a younger sister with a life full of problems and near death a couple times, in trouble

still and understand it hurts and all of the above to the parents.  I'd suggest you do the same

thing in gettign guardianship.

Legal Guardianship over that adult is hard to accept you need to do but it does ensure that

when they refuse to save themself because of thier probelms, you aren't so helpless to

sit back and just watch them die!  You can get with Doctors to force their hand into a hospital and treatment so much better, keep them in treatment and hospitals and if things get to

a point a 'sound decision' needs made, it wont be by them who is not thinking right, it

will be from your heart of what can be?

Not all people with addiction can get to the

help on thier own.  Some are so bad if someone

does not get envolved and force a start, they could

end up dead.  These girls, especially the worst

one is in a midst of someone force help on her

or she ends up dead.