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November 20, 2006, 7:12 am PST

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Quote From: milehidawn

i'm not quite sure you have ever dealt with too many people that are seriously addicted, because if you had you would know that you can not force an addict to be "made clean".  i just watched my son go back into court yesterday, fail yet another u.a., and go off once again in handcuffs.  this judge says "go to rehab".  he's been to rehab on three other occasions.  will this time work?  probably not.  why?  because he is not ready.  i know this because he has been using and in the court system and in jails for now 8 years.  he's almost 21.  i agree with you that all drugs should be destroyed, but that is not the answer either.  most of what is in the drugs my son is using are household items.  this is not intended to make you angry at me for what i have to say, but i know quite alot about this epidemic.  courts ordering  people into rehabs is a complete waste of time, all it is doing is generating revenue to those rehabs.  you have to want to quit.  right now, like so many, he is not ready.  he may never be ready.  i have resigned myself to the possibility that i may have to bury my son. 
again, this is not intended to upset anyone, but you cannot make a person clean.

BUT: there is times that when someone gets envolved it

does help.  The girls did say often they did not want to

keep living that way?  Not helping at this point means

a sure death soon? 

     I am very sorry about your Son, I don't think you said

anything anyone should be angry about.  There is a time to

stand up and take action over those hurting themself.

If it's kicking them out, stop listening to excuses or

calling the police on them, which is worse?

Forcing something or doing nothing?  One can end up with

death other a chance no matter how slim it is?

 
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November 20, 2006, 7:24 am PST

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Quote From: kaylees_dad

ok, you might want to think about what you are saying.  i don't try to prevent them from being alone because i don't trust him with his daughter.  it's for the simple fact that if he is accused again, i know every time she went to the bathroom, everytime she changed her clothes, went to sleep, what kaylee eat, or in other words... so i know every move that both of them make, so i know where she could possibly get it from.  jeremy is a very good father, and although i didn't stick up for him as much as i should have on the show, which was just because the results shocked me because i know he has never hurt her, doesn't mean that i think jeremy is guilty. jeremy is the best father anyone could ask for.  and even though he wasn't there for kaylee as much as he should have been while she was very young, he has been doing everything he can for her for almost two years.  jeremy loves kaylee very very much, and i know he would never do anything to harm her, he gets mad at me for giving her time outs and he doesn't believe in spanking a child, so why would he hurt her.  HE WOULD NOT HURT HER.  anyone who has seen the two of them together automatically changes there mind about him, she loves and adores her dad.  thats all there is to it. 

The Father, the Mother or whoever, the reply is just obsurd!

The child is innocent and why would such a strong relationship

have the child crying at being left alone for a few minutes with

a Father she 'Adores'? while Step-Mother gets mail?

Whoever is guilty or not in all of it, in whatever part they may

have had a hand in, the child is the only Innocent one!

Please have a heart for the child first, let the adults wade

in thier own battles and others stand up for this little girl?

KNOW THIS: Sexual offenders do not see what they

are doing as HURTING?

There is more to a victim than you can see in a small child,

it shows as they grow.  The protectors usually add to the

pain and shame.  I have one stand: THE CHILD.

~~~~THAT IS NOW ALL THERE IS TO IT! ~~~~~

 
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November 24, 2006, 6:56 am PST

Both better than most parents.

I feel no matter which method any parents use it is always the

parents that give the most input to a child learning or not.

Many children are in public schools and failing the most

fundamentals like Math and English?  I am sure there is a few

also failing these at home schools.  It is why they have the periodic

testing to find out where the children are at?

   I also think it is absurd that in the public schools before the testing

the children are given focused teaching 'to pass that test'!

Random testing for both would prove weather any teacher in public

schools and home schooling is giving each individual what they need?

As like so many things in our culture, HOW a child is raised does not

always predict what happens to them in society or thier social skills.

There is those who in school was very popular, good grades and good

parents that can go bad just like there is those who had bad grades, not

popular and unhealthy parents that succeeded well to great members of

our society.

                      The most important things  a parent gives thier children is Love,

Structure, Consistant rules to function in rules and education.

Our laws need to protect ALL children including those home schooled, not

in school at all and in public schools.  Thus giving random tests to schools

which contains material that a teacher does not know is contained in it,

simple questions that give a look into how the child feels about life and

learning and logic solving problems would solve alot of the problems in

them all.    I cheer on the parents so involved with their kids.

 
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November 24, 2006, 7:05 am PST

agree but

Quote From: meldcox

I am fascinated by this episode! I am a 31 year old public school teacher who happened to have been homeschooled from 3rd grade through high school along with my brother.  It was an awesome experience. My Mom ran a family business and took on the tremendous responsibilty of our education. It is an overwhelming task and it is not for everybody. Parents who homeschool have to understand this. This is not about sheltering their children. It is about providing the best one on one education and going beyond the doors of traditional school education. I also see the value in public school. I see it every day. I am impressed with my colleagues professionalism and care for our students.  The energy and the task of public school teachers is grand and overwhelming. We still have a system that allows children from all walks of life to get an education and make something of themselves. This is a great American gift.

However, I am not impressed with the "socialization" arguement it is disturbing when teachers ask this instead of asking how well the education process is going. I see very poorly socialized and very well socialized students everyday. It has little to do with the "school building". I have met poorly socialized adults whom attended public schools and I have met well socialized adults who were homeschooled.

Unschooling sounds a bit too free and unstructured, I hope people can separate that from home schooling. I am unfamiliar so that is all I can say about unschooling.

Homeschooling worked for us. Yet people are always responding in surprise at how we are the exception and I smile and agree that my brother and I are exceptional! I have a masters degree in education and my brother has three undergrad degrees and three masters degrees in geology, math and physics.

I believe we are well adjusted, educated, contributing members of society and so it worked. I think it is grand to live in a free society where people do have the choice for how best to educated our children and are free to debate all these ideas! God Bless America!

I agree, it is not bad to home school.  I do have a problem with the

Mother sitting there still breast feeding a 5 year old and giving her a

bottle, she needs educated to tooth decay and that breast feeding

as awesome as it is, I breast fed mine, is for infants, babies and even

a toddler but then the milk is no more than a weekly vitamin.

She also did not seem to give proper structure which teaches a child

about self control nor did she seem to understand that a child does

not have the ability to decision making skills unless taught them and

learning through being given it?

   ALL children need protected and tested to find what is going on for

sure and certainly the government giving testing that shows it all

without a parent or teacher preping them for the test would show more.

Not ALL of anything is all right or all wrong All has problems?

 
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November 24, 2006, 7:14 am PST

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Go to our govt's website on schooling stats and just look at the GREAT stats of homeschooling kids.

 

Again, there is not one shoe for each and every child. It depends on your child, the public school system in your area, the private schools in your area and the homeschooling networks in your area. But NEVER EVER look down upon homeschooling, because the stats say it all!

I'd actually dare say a home schooled child passing the

tests show much higher intelligence.  Schools make

sure they spend at least a week preparing the students

for what they KNOW is on them tests to pass them so

the school can get required and more funds for thier school.

Politics is the factor not the children?

After the testing it goes back to the usual school days and

YES many children get left behind because of inability to adapt

in school for many reasons and a unhealthy home life?

I am sure home schooled has a few too but a parent willing

to give the home schooling shows more interest than most parents?

 
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November 24, 2006, 7:21 am PST

11/24 Great School Debate

Quote From: starsekker

First of all I would like to say that this episode seems extremely biased towards public schoolers.  There was not a traditional home schooler represented.  How can you get an idea of a typical home schooler if you don't show one???? 

 

Unschooling can be a good thing for the right family.  But unschooling does not mean that you set no boundaries for your child.  That can't be healthy.  Not every home schooler is like that - in fact most aren't close.  And what is up with the girl who is paranoid of sending her kids to school?  She doesn't even home school so how can she represent homeschooling?  We are not all a bunch of paranoid idiots. 

 

I have three children all of them are special needs.  One is Bipolar and two are on the Autism Spectrum.  This is the main reason why I home school.  They can get the attention they need as well as the flexibility.  My children are extremely bright.  They are all way above where they should be if they were "typical" children which is exceptional because they have so much more to contend with on a daily basis. 

 

As for social skills - public schools do not foster social skills.  My children actually have to be taught social skills.  It is not something that they can pick up by watching others.  They have friends that they see on a regular basis.  They have home school groups, martial arts, as well as therapies. 

 

My children are not typical.  They would not succeed being educated in the typical manor.  There is no right and wrong in this debate.  There is only what is best for your family.  I have been horrified reading the responses here.  How can someone declare that another person's choices are wrong without truly understanding themselves and there position.  Yes - there are families that would probably do best not homeschooling.  There are also children that would probably benefit by being removed from public schools. 

 

I wish more then anything that there was understanding instead of the constant bickering that goes on. 

I so agree, the basic life of who a child would be begins at birth

and continues with the parents and every person and event

they encounter.  I also think there is many

troubled children who found a savior in a teacher at some

point in their life.             Neither is all bad.

What happens at home can affect a child profoundly and no

manner of schooling can cure a unhealthy home life.

  What we seen on the show today does not define what

most who home school do!   This Mother does not have

a well balanced life going on for those children.  Obviously

a child receiveing a tooth roting, deforming bottle at 5 proves that.

 
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November 27, 2006, 6:05 am PST

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Quote From: mymomsfun

I am so glad that someone else feels the same as I do.  Their mother decided to "check out" and let her girls raise themselves.  Now they are paying the price.   I am the mother of 2 girls 13 and 12.  I have to monitor everything they do without smothering them.  I have to say no to them when it would be much easier to say yes.  But that is what parents do!!!!   I wish more people understood that parents can't be best friends with their kids. 

Aww come one: blaming a Mom is way too easy?

It takes the true blame away from the real problem,

don't you think?  Our society has streets with

way too easy access to drugs, prostitution and

crimes?  Who supplies the drugs? who pays the

prostitutes and who was helping this Mother?

She had to work which requires sleep?

She is admitting to problems and is tormented

to no end from this!  It is way too easy to blame,

of course she made mistakes all parents do.

As of yet I have not seen the Father do what he

needed to do?  Two parents create a child!

It takes a village to raise a child!

Lets learn, look out for troubled kids and see

the real enemies out there?  huh?

 
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November 27, 2006, 7:10 am PST

When drugs win?

I posted a reply BUT, it is just a reply, consider for a second

how much winning drugs does?  Alot!  We are all part of a society

that has drugs ruling the streets, drug dealers everyewhere, richer

hiden respectable people?  Blaming the Mother is way too easy.

Of course she made mistakes, most do, especially when they

work and need to sleep?  Where is the insulting Father? He said

Mother brought him two 'insult to his girls, insert here" , she

brought to him?  Hahaha, well where was he at through much

of this? Wasn't it said he took them for a bit? Gave them up for

a lost cause?  Why would you be so hard on a Mom that admits

to mistakes and so incredibly hurt seeing her daughters messed

up like that?  Many factors play a role in raising children? Income

can dictate a bad or good neighborhood, work hours, other parents

help and the peer problems.  A parent can't always watch kids.

Lets forget the blame game for a minute and put our thoughts into

the many self-injurers like these two girls and stop letting our

political leaders dictate what subjects we really wanted on the ballots

instead?  Get more help to single Mothers that have missing fathers in the

childrens lives?  Get more police out there to crack down on drugs and

when they do pick up a young addict like this, get them clean and in

healthy programs?  Have more avenues for someone like this Mom

to get more hlep?  Next generation on the way will probably be born addicted?

The Mom aint perfect and has faults, many do!

Those girls are in trouble-----THATS THE ISSUE, whats the reasons?

 
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November 28, 2006, 6:57 am PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

Quote From: gemini6874

Krista is so adament that Jeremy has molested her daughter why in God's name would she not do everything in her power to keep that little girl safe!!!!! I am refering to the fact that this mother wouldn't do 15 days in jail to keep this precious child safe after she is CERTAIN he has molested her!!!!! I would spend years in jail if i felt that strongly about what was going on. My child is worth that plus so much more. I am not saying this guy is innocent but to me Krista is saying well i will keep her away from him cuz i am fearful of what might happen cuz its the worst thing that could happen to a child but then when it is inconvienient to protect her she says ok well it must not be that bad and its not worth the jail time????????  I would rather see a child lose both parents to jail or whatever then to EVER have to go through one more minute of abuse....

In Michigan, where I am also from, this Mother refusing

visitations would mean that the Father would be the

one to have this child for that 15 days AND use that

to try to get custody!!!!

She did what she had no choice but to do.

 
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November 28, 2006, 7:01 am PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

Quote From: kittcatt

He tried so hard to cheat on the first one...

I wonder if the police officer giving the polygraph is aware of the tricks to pass one.

 

Note that he stopped taking medication a week before and had consumed

alcohol before the tests, the police conducting the test did not score on the

issues of deception on that test and they did not adhere to standard protocol

on questioning for sexual abuse beyond limited 'touching'?

Michigan has serious issues in a political field, I am not suprprised

to see something was done to protect other professionals and to

side with anyone against a family who has ticked them off. 

 

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