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November 6, 2006, 10:44 am PST

hope Dr Phil has detective on this so Dad is prosecuted

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I tried to keep an open mind from the beginning and now I'm glad to know my instincts are backed up by the polygraph results.  I think that its part of the thrill for him- the "are they going to catch me" thing.  I think coming onto Dr. Phil he thought he was going to pull off the biggest deception of all- he'd be vindicated and he'd still have his victim possibly full time!  Maybe he hasn't really processed that he is the one doing this because he knows its wrong, but hopefully the guy is gotten off the streets and into a program to deal with this.  I don't think child molesters can ever be rehabilitated, but at least the attempt could be made.  How reasonable would it be though to be treated for something you don't even admit? 

 

I hope that Kaylee and her Mom get treatment because I think both of them need it.  Especially if she or anyone else has done drugs in this girls presence or allows others who do or are on drugs to have anything to do with Kaylee.  If she does, she is just risking someone else doing this to her daughter!  If she hasn't then that's wonderful, but personally, I'd still have some anger issues that would need to be worked out.  As for the Step-mother, who would want to see their husband labeled a molester especially if you're pregnant.  It would be horrible!!  She needs to watch what Kaylee's Mom is going through to know what it'll be like for her if she lets Jeremy around her child.   Denial is powerful!  No one would want to believe it, but it happens all to often!

I agree with you totally.  it is my hope that Dr Phil legally has detectives on this and has evidence to hold up in court to convict this guy. 

 

Child protection services can not do much without proof as the courts will overrule them.

 

My grandchild has to go with her pedophile father half the time because the abuse was so bizarre that the judge who the father's atty got the case transferred to said it was too unbelievable.  However, it is too unbelievable a person can do it and child protection investigated for 7 months and found child very credible 14 witnesses for the state and the judge dismissed it all. 

 

In a town near here a mother and two of the father's housemates reported the father to protection several times but it was dismissed-- 4 years later (child now 6) videos were turned in of the father raping his daughter at age 2.  He claims to be innocent even with the videos.

 

I pray this man goes to jail. 

 

Yes, pedophiles play games and like to beat the system as he thought he would by taking the test for Dr Phi.  Like he's friends with Dr Phil.  He wouldn't take them without an audience not enough thrill.  Notice he stated it is inadmissible in court.  However, iyt might not be inadmissible in a child custody to keep the child from him. 

 

The mother should be patted on the back for her good work at persuing this.  All those who faulted the mother should be ashamed but I think they meant well and just don't know how truely difficult it is.   To go underground would have put that child in serious jeopardy.  Most likely the father would have full custody and the mother in jail and at the very least a life as a criminal with no real life.  People should not give opinions about things they know nothing of.

 

Yes, to say I would feel like taking my child and run if I was faced with that or I would hate to turn the child to him.  We never knew that it is so hard to protect one's child in this country.  I can't begin to imagibne the terror in other countries.

 

 

 
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November 6, 2006, 11:40 am PST

children aren't the only one to suffer

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We can lie to each other, but we can not lie to God.  The truth will be revealed.  Without judging, I think they all need prayer.  Please keep the child in prayer for she is the  most innocent party here.  Pray that she will get the best help, so that she will be able to have a successful life. I am raising my granddaughter now, for the last 12 years, not because of sexual abuse, but parents drug abuses./neglect.  Which she has multible special needs.  KIDS ARE THE ONES THAT SUFFER!!!!

I know you mean well but that mother and grandmother are hurting and they will never forget.  the child might forget.  People have all empathy for the child and rightfully so but the mother is suffering.  The mother has gone through hell not only suffering for the hurt her child has gone through but knowing she had to turn that baby to him. 

 

The mother has also gone through abuse by the system who even if they believed her, would not or could not act on the child's behalf.  I would like to hear from the CPS on this but know they cannot talk per law and if do could be fired.

 

CPS is often overworked but they have rules to follow and have to go by them.  It is very difficult to prevent a parent from being with his or her child.  they are not given the free reign to simply go in and prevent abuse.  The abuser is going to deny it and has plenty of time to think up excuses. 

 

It is ironic that in this country where one is considered innocent until proven quilty, we have taken that so far that the guily often gets off and the truely innocent victim pays the price.    A lot of groups scream that innocent people are in jail but that is just not the case.  Likewise many pedophiles belongs to men's rights droups and learn ways to get around the system.  Many shut out parental alienation but don't say it was coined by a pedoiphile supporter RICHARD GARDNER who has since committed suicide. 

 

My daughter has spent over $30,000.00 to try to protect her child and the child protection has taken the father to court and request the prosecutor arrest him but he gets off and has for over 5 years, the battle continues.  We have written Montel, Ophra, Phil and everyone else, we have gone to the governor's office. 

 

Even getting the child's teeth cleaned by a pediatric dentist under the mother dental plan as she is the only one paying for anything, took r month of gouing back and forth with the father dening the child to be seen and the GALrequesting and fiablly the GAL was going to request the court allow child to go to dentist and than the father recanted his cease and desist letter his atty sent to the dentist when appt was made.  the father sebd cease and desist to the school sio it took a court order for child to go to kindergarden.  she is forbidden to see her therpsit and cannot be tested at school.  He also send cease and desist to the court ordered visitation center so than the judge just dropped his supervised visits and gave him 50-59 custody and lecturred the mother.  He took mother to court claiming he thought mother had 3 yr old in dance and he wanted mother to be in contempt,  child was never in any dance but why shouln't she be allowed?    We know the father is simple doing all these things to set up smokescreen so his devious behavior is not as obvious. 

 

If you knew what he did I believe many of you would vomit.  It is very depraved.  All we can do is pray pray pray and hope the child will have the courage to speak up to others.  She told the GAL and he told her she was lying. 

 

The father told her he will gut her mother and showed her a sword he will do it with, 

 

CPS requested the prosecutor get a supeona as the child stated father video tapes and exactly where he hides camera,  Prosecutor said not enough info.

 

 It goes on and on and on.  I know we are not the only ones. I cannot get too specific as we risk losing this child totally as it is illegal to discuss abuse of minors.

 

Most fathers love and protect their children but not all same as most mother are very good.  It is the small percentage that are bad but way too many kids are hurt.  God bless good parents.

 
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November 6, 2006, 1:04 pm PST

It's obvious he's a liar

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I'm not sure who the bigger liair is here...I think all parties involved here have something to hide, as to what that "something" is I am not quite sure but I hope for the sake of that beautiful little girl that her father has not been molesting her.

I really do not believe anyone who defends that man.  he is so obviously a liar even about having to work to avoid taking the tests. 

 

I cannot understand anyone defending him except maybe his mother or wife because they want to believe him.

 

Even his wife was crying and it's obvious she is scared for her own child.

 

 

 
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November 6, 2006, 1:13 pm PST

For all who claim they wouldn't allow him to see the child

what is it you don't get?  The mother had no choice,  The courts took it from her.  It would have been much worse for the child for the mother to go underground or to refuse visitation.  She did eveything legally she could.

 

granted one's gut instinct is no way but that is not reality.  With the Amber alert,inability to get passport, inability to take a child to Canada or Mexico, and to interfere with court ordered visitation is felony kidnapping and a federal offense, NO YOU WOULD NOT BE PROTECTING THE CHILD BY RUNNING. 

 

Do you think everyone posting who are forced to turn a child to a pedophileare simple bad mothers who allow the abuse to happen but you are so good and wouldn't.    THEY HAVE NO CHOICE.  They are forced to do the lessor of two evils the father has visitaion instead of 100% custody.  That's the sad reality. 

 
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November 6, 2006, 1:18 pm PST

It is not Dr Phil's decision

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Dr Phil!

How could you let that child stay with any of those people? They are all a bunch of liars and I think you ought to look at the stepmom as well as the dad as a molester. Kaylee said THEY touched my pee pee not HE. CPS won't ever admit they made a mistake. I see it happen all the time. Get that baby away from all of them as quick as possible.

The state make custody decisions not Dr Phil  He can try that's all.  the mother is a good mother and grandmother a good grandmother.  they have risked everything to protect that baby.  Blame the right party.

 

I don't care for his wife but think she is a victim of his too.

 
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November 6, 2006, 1:21 pm PST

so you'd be in jail

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 I am disgusted by this whole group of people. I feel the same way a lot of people here do. Why as a mother would you keep sending your child to someone that she says and you think is molesting your child for 1 year?  I not only would have kept my child as far away from this person, I would be in jail. This creep needs to be locked up forever. Obviously his girlfriend is involved. What does she think is going to happen to her kid? I strongly believe that this poor child needs to be completely removed from this situation and put with someone who actually has a brain in their head. I believe that this mother is part of the problem. I am completely disgusted.  I would love to get my hands on these people.








If it was you, your child would be with the pedophile permanantly as you'd be in jail.

 

It is the system that failed the child not the mother.

 
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November 6, 2006, 1:39 pm PST

making comments

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You've got to be kidding me.  "people should not give opinions about things they know nothing of."  that has to be the craziest things i've ever heard.  thats what OPINIONS are.  No one should be ashamed of what they thought before the polygraph results came back.  NO ONE knew 100% who was right or who was wrong.  i'm sure you had your opinion just as everyone else did, but you didn't know for a fact that it was right.  that is what makes it an opinion.

To make comments about something one knows nothing about is ignorant.  It is not an opinion based on fact just a statement with no validity.

 

 

 
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November 6, 2006, 1:54 pm PST

supervised visits

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I am extremely concerned about this little girl!!!! 

 

It's obvious that her father is lying and has most likely abused her, however, her mother said today that he will only get "supervised visits! now."  What is she thinking?  If I thought someone was molesting my child, I wouldn't allow them in the same state as my child, let alone in the same room- supervised or not!  I don't even know how the mother sat there without attacking the father when the lie detector tests results were revealed.  I wanted to go through my tv and strangle him.

 

What's to become of this child?  Not only has she been through hell, now she is going to have to endure legal battles. 

 

CPS needs to step up to the plate and do something.  I agree with many other viewers who posted that CPS does not always do what they should.  My mother's job requires her to work closely with them and she has told me story after story when she could not get them to take a child out of horrible circumstances.  I am sure that Dr. Phil gets a different response from Children Protective Services than do many other citizens due to his position.  It's not to say that they don't ever do good, but sometimes they don't respond like they should and this appears to be one of those times.

 

Please Dr. Phil.... make sure this precious child does not ever have to endure this abuse again!  Her father should be in jail and his new wife needs to wake up and leave now before her child is abused too.

The mother did not say he would get supervised visits.  She said he would not see the kid again and he said he would and she said at most supervised.

 

A mother does not have say so over her child when a father request visitation or custody,  the courts do not consider either parent more important and a child with 2 good parents is very fortunate but that is not always the case.

 

The mother's responses are not what she wants but what she knows the courts will grant. 

 

A truely supervised visits at a visitation center is the visiting parent go to the center in one door usually gets padded down by police and than waits til custodial parent arrives with child and takes child to another entrance and turns child to another adult.  Visiting parent is taken to a room where child is brought and a person remains in that room and supervises the visit.  When visit is over, the custodial parent returns and is handed the child, the visiting parent had to wait about 15 minutes after the custodial parent and child leaves.  One or both parents paid for the visit.  It is usually court ordered.

 

I don;'t think he should ever be allowed any visitation but that would be very rare for the court to not allow him his so called parental rights.  Even when a parent murders the other parent, courts make the child go to prison to visit if the parent request.

 
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November 6, 2006, 2:01 pm PST

Alison who played Nellie on Little House

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There is a child advocate who appeared on Larry King.   She's an actress who used to be on Little House on the Prairie and she was molested herself as a child.  

 

She said " When a stranger rapes you, they keep that person from you for the rest of your life.  When your father rapes you, they send you right back to him!"  Please, make sure that just b/c her father IS her rapist, that she WILL NOT have to have visitations.  Supervised or otherwise.  

 

As the advocate said, our laws have still not caught up with the reality of child rape, and incest in this country.   Do what you have to do to remember he took advantage of the relationship to do this.

  1. On March 8 Alison was guest on Breaking the Conspiracy of Silence an Internet radio talk show sponsored by Darkness to Light (www.darkness2light.org). Dedicated to providing a safe forum where people can share ideas about preventing, recognizing and reacting responsibly to child sexual abuse.

Sunday Feb. 26 Alison made an appearance as "The Minister" in Joni and Gina's Wedding at El Cid Club in Hollywood.

Alison was a celebrity guest on Sat. Feb. 4 on the Micah McCain show at the Cavern Club Theatre in L.A.

Alison was recently in Washington to work for passage of the child protection laws including CARE Act of 2005. Here are some pics from the trip.



"Pass our bill or I'll go "NELLIE" on ya!"

Ask YOUR U.S. Representative to Co-Sponsor the CARE Act of 2005! (HR 3582) It's time to make protection in the home a right for every American child! U.S. Representatives Bob Ney (R-OH) and Al Green (D-TX) have re-introduced the CARE Act, the bill that started our Circle of Trust campaign. This bill would give children in every state protection from sexual abuse in the home. The last time the CARE Act was introduced in Congress, it was killed in committee, forcing PROTECT to fight state by state to win children's civil rights. This time, you can change the outcome!

Alison was featured in a recent In Los Angeles Magazine "The LGBT Community and The Sex Offender" article. Click here to read article.

Inspired by the surprise hit summer TV series "Brat Camp" The Boston Herald newspaper did a funny list of the Top 10 TV Brats and named Nellie as #10. " target=parent>Click here to read article...

Kevin Hagen who played Doc. Baker on Little House died on July 9, 2005. Click here for more...

Alison becomes a Biker Chick for a Good Cause
Alison was in attendance a the recent Bikers Against Child Abuse press conference and sent along some pics and a message for you all. Click here for more...

 
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November 6, 2006, 2:09 pm PST

Dr Phil You Need to do something

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You really need to clarify things like it didn't take a year for the mother too report this.  You also need to clarify that a parent who refuses custody often loses their child.  DR Phil you need to set things straight as many people think that a parent has the choice who to send their child with and we know that is a fallacy.

 

Dr Phil it rips a parents heart out the way the system fails kids and parents.    You need to let the world know that good mothers and fathers are forced everyday to send their child to abusive situations.  Many think they would have a choice and they don't. 

 

Please speak up for these parents.  They go through hell.  They have the added burden thaT they are giving the children the message that it doesn't matter and it rips them to the core.  It is heartbreaking to know you cannot help the ones you love the most from the most vile of abuse.  Speak up for the kids yes but the nonabusive parents as well.

 

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