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November 28, 2006, 3:59 pm PST

I don't believe he is guilty

Jeremy is a complete moron and his mouth is his own worst enemy. He doesn't seem very intelligent. Just because someone thinks about their answer first doesn't mean they are guilty. My 16 year old thinks about every little question before she gives an answer and it annoys the hell out of me but that doesn't make her a lyer. Polygraphs are not admisible in court and hypnosis is crockery and not everyone can be hypnotised even if they want to be. (If it can even be done to begin with, personally I don't believe in it). There is absolutely NO physical evidence what so ever that he is molesting this child. I'm sorry but I just don't believe that she has been molested. A torn labia can happen from falling on things. I know cause I did it crashing on a boys bike. Painful and not fun. The OB even said in her letter that there is no physical evidence of sexual abuse. Just because this guy is an ass and really really annoying and painful to watch him talk does not make him guilty!
 
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November 30, 2006, 8:35 am PST

maybe this will get posted this time

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I simply see this lady a wanting a fair judgement passed on this man, and not creating havoc over hear say just becuase we do not like the way he acts. I see ehr saying this has been inflamed and if he is guilty and the system is failing it is becuase Mom and Grandma keep stirring up the stink. I also see a man who is not likeable being called a molester just becuase we don't like him. Lets face it, if she hadn;t coached teh child, and its on video we may be more likely to sway to the other side instead of being unbiased. By the way, none of us knwo what he has or has not done. I just wish Mom would stop talking about htis all the time and Jeremy would just agree to supervised visits unitl something is sorted out, and the truth brought forward.

I couldn't agree with you more. Everyone is quick to pass judgement on Jeremy because he an all around unlikable person. Even I find him very painful to watch. I can't stand to watch him and listen to him talk. He is his own worst enemy. However, that doesn't make him quilty. For those of you who say he is guilty because of the way he acts and looks and talks...GET REAL. If that was the bases of finding one guilty god help our society. If this man was educated, well spoken and handsome I bet people wouldn't be so quick to pass judgement on him. All of the people involved in this mess has just made it that much worse by playing tug of war games emotionally with this child. As far as I'm concerned they are all guilty of emotional abuse on this poor child. There are a lot of innocent people accused of child molestation and even prosecuted for false accusations. That is why it is so hard to distinguish fact from fiction when there is no physical evidence. To many people have abused the system and used it for their own vindictiveness. I just hope and pray that whatever is going on in this case is sorted out quickly.  

 

What is up with this message board? I have posted 4 other post in the last 2 days and none of them have been posted. An no none of them were outrageous. :)

 
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December 1, 2006, 7:47 am PST

well said

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NOBODY ever said that she woke up crying relentlessly that her peepee hurt....... SEE it is statements like this..... that TWIST the truth... because we don't have a minute to minute count of how or why she said it hurt.... and how she was reacting... ALSO we don't have the ER report... so we don't REALLY know how bad the injury was... or if it was an irritation that cracked the skin and made it look worse than it was...... SO PLEASE.... DON"T manufacture stories...... and don't write things that you do not KNOW TO BE THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH..... this is how rumors start... and WE as the viewers DON'T have ALL the facts... so don't just make them up as you go along to boost your case, and try to make it more dramatic...
You are absolutely right. We don't know all the facts. People tend to think with their emotions and not with the facts.
 
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December 1, 2006, 10:04 am PST

thank goodnes we don't convict on stats

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We also do not convict people on statistics. Statistics do not make people guilty.

Statistics can be manipulated in any way to fit your agenda. That is a fact. Unfortunately people like to use statistics to fit their agenda. I'm sure if someone was to give a statistic on something someone else could find a statistic to counter it. The more I read this message board the more I start to feel sorry for this child. Everyone has a right to their opinions but I find a lot of these opinions based on emotion and not facts. People are so quick to jump to a conclusion based on half truths and only bits and peices of the facts. That is what is wrong with shows like these. There is not enough time for everything to be laid out on the table so you are only given bits and peices of the information and that is usually the information that the producers think will make good TV. I'm sure that these people have very good intentions but to say someone is guilty because of the way they act, look, talk, etc. is not being objective.

 

Another thing I don't understand is why people say that children do not cry like that just because they don't want to go with someone else. I have 2 children and I can tell you that yes in fact they do. I have even seen other children act like that. When I first started taking my kid to daycare you would think I was beating the ever living crap out of her by the way she screamed and cried and carried on and begged "No mommy I don't want to go....I want to stay with you". I can assure you the daycare was not beating or molesting my child.

 

I find it interesting that people are debating over the fact that she wasn't potty trained at the age of 3. Children potty train at all ages. Some before 2 and some after 2. Doesn't mean a darn thing.

 

 

 
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December 1, 2006, 10:53 am PST

very sad

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I know....it's so sick.  I know a family a long time ago, I was a young teen at the time so these things were not something I thought about a lot. But one of my friends had an older sister that recently had a baby. I recall my friends mother going on and on about how disgusting it was for the father of the baby to sleep with the baby on his bare chest.  I know for a fact that studies show this created good health for babies, as I had a preemie and I did this in the hospital with her twice a day and my husband did too. Skin to skin is important, touch and cuddling is IMPORTANT.

You are right, it's sad when those things are turned into ugly sick things.
That is so sad. No wonder fathers are afraid to nurture their own children. Families afraid to show any affection towards their children due to the fact that someone might accuse them of being inappropriate.
 
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October 29, 2007, 4:03 pm PDT

This show pissed me off

As a single mom of 2 girls I can not stress enough how this show pissed me off.  These kind of women that trap men into paying child support for kids that aren't theirs make the rest of us women look terrible. No man should be put in that situation. EVER!!!! I don't understand why this is okay and why we should turn the other cheek and make them continue to pay child support for a child that isn't theirs. That is just ludicrous.
 
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December 27, 2007, 3:06 pm PST

the friend needs to but out

I think the friend needs to butt out. She is a total control freak. It's great that she wants to be there for her friend but she needs to let her friend figure things out on her own and just be there as a friend for moral support. Obviously there are some serious problems in this relationship but its between the husband and the wife to work out.

 

 

 
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December 27, 2007, 3:20 pm PST

I agree

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I've been watching this since yesterday, and I have to say the whole thing is ridiculous.
The whole conflict spouted from the husband's affair with the "teenage" (pfft, she was 18) nanny, but he's not denying it. They know and he knows what he did, and he's not attempting to hide it in any way. He's asking dr. phil for help, but none is being provided. Instead, series of unfounded allegations are being brought up, and in my eyes, no matter what this man says, he is guilty.

And this "best friend?" I'm sick of her. I understand having concern for a person, but how can you possibly let someone try and control you like that?  Personally, I don't think the situation is any of her business. It's between the husband and wife. However, as I continue to watch, I one question keeps popping up in my mind. "Why is she even here?" She doesn't seem as though she wants to resolve the situation at all. If that's the case, get a divorce and both of you can move on!

People do selfish and immature things in their lives, but you cant' possibly get past any of it if you dwell on it. You have to acknowledge, plan to put the pieces to gether, and move on. None of that is being done here, and I'm more than frustrated wtih both Dr. Phil and his narrowminded audience. :[
I completely agree with you. I actually felt bad for this guy but then again I guess that is what you get when you air your dirty laundry on TV. It wouldn't get good ratings I guess if they actually approached this like real counseling. The guy is a slime bag for what he did but he is trying to fix things. The friend just keeps on and on and needs to obviously get her own life and butt out. She is just making things worse.  This couple needs serious marriage counseling. I think the wife has her own issues and I don't believe this is all his fault.
 

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