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December 1, 2006, 10:41 am PST

I could not agree more!

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I do not think that home schooling is for everyone nor do I believe that public schooling is either.  I think parents have a responsibility to do what will best benefit their child.  I have one child in public school and one that I home school.  While one does extremely well in the public school, the other does not.  I don't think it's fair to put all people in one box and say that is what's best for one is best for all.  It doesn't work that way anywhere else in the 'real' world. 

 

For those who have ailments - do they all take the same medication?  No, it depends on what ails them!  Does everyone take something for an ailment??  Not if they don't have an ailment!  Not everyone has the same learning style, abilities or disabilities.  You can't put all people in one room and teach them all the same way and expect them ALL to 'get it'.  Put all those alike (same learning styles, abilities and interests) in one room and teach them and they'll comprehend.  I'd like to see THAT happen in the public school system! 

 

And some parents don't have a choice but to send their child(ren) to public school.

 

I don't think anyone can tell anyone else what's best for the other's child and it be taken seriously.  This debate will never be resolved until we learn to accept each other's differences and accept that not everyone fits the same mold.

The problem I see with ppl is that a lot are trying to force their opinions on others!

The fact is that we all are not the same and neither are our children. What works for some, may work for others.

 

Thanks for posting your thoughts!

 
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December 1, 2006, 11:17 am PST

Very much the truth!

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As adults, we have recourse against bullies.

 

If we're beat up, it's considered assault and battery, and the perp is arrested.

 

If our lunch money is stolen, it is theft and the perp is arrested.

 

If our reputation is smeared and we're called foul names, it's slander (or libel if printed) and we have recourse.

 

If we take a job with an obnoxious coworker who the boss won't reprimand, we can switch jobs if necessary.  Not the easiest or most convenient option, but an option, nonetheless.

 

Kids in schools are told to suck it up and take it, and bully punishment (in a lot of cases) is a joke.  Nobody should have to take what bullies dish out.  Especially kids who are the most ill-equipped to handle it.

What you just posted is very much the truth!

We took our child out of school for 2 reasons:

 

BULLIES (I call them the sad products of parents who do not take parenting serious!)

EVERYONE IS REQUIRED TO LEARN AT THE SAME SPEED!

 

My son has great confidence, why should that be shattered by someone who did not learn about respect from their parents and therefor disrespects other students?

 

My son is advanced, why should I leave him in a class with kids that have IEP's and are way behind him, but HE is forced to stay at the level they are at, because the school has no program available for the advanced kids?

We cannot afford a private school and even if  we could, there is not one close by. I also believe that the bullying problem is probably also existent in a private school as well, maybe not as much as in public school.

 
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December 1, 2006, 11:40 am PST

11/24 Great School Debate

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Ok!  first, in regards to the government serving the people.....the emphasis was on the word "YOU" , as far as, "the government serving the people....  meaning, it serves the people, as a WHOLE, not "YOU" or ME, as an individual. 

 

Second,  the reason I do not think Hitler should be used as an example for this topic in banning homeschooling, is because MORE importantly Hitler killed over 6,000,000 Jews - something Im far more concerned about!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Third, I love this country, I have served in the military, for this country, and I take great PRIDE in the freedoms, the men and women before us, who lost their lives have given us. WE DO NOT live in a dictatorship, maybe you should visit Germany yourself, to understand the difference.

 

Lastly, the intent of the Facts I told from the CBS news report, was in responding to a post from my message, someone asked for me to put in some info about what was on the report.  this was some of the info!

 

FYI: There was a law established many years before Hitler was born, 126 yrs to be excact.

 It was King Friedrich Wilhelm I of Prussia who established the general regional school regulation. 

 

http://www.homeedmag.com/blogs/newscomm/?p=590

 

 

 
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December 1, 2006, 5:55 pm PST

11/24 Great School Debate

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I never said Hitler outlawed homeschooling in the entire world.

I said he outlawed homeschooling in Germany.

 

 

 

And I just wanted to correct you, HITLER was not THE one to outlaw the homeschooling, it was the King of Prussia who established the german School law!
 
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December 1, 2006, 5:56 pm PST

11/24 Great School Debate

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I never said Hitler outlawed homeschooling in the entire world.

I said he outlawed homeschooling in Germany.

 

 

 

And I just wanted to correct you, HITLER was not THE one to outlaw the homeschooling, it was the King of Prussia who established the german School law!

 

PS: NOWHERE in my post did I say that you said HITLER outlawed the homeschooling in the entire world!

 
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December 2, 2006, 9:54 am PST

11/24 Great School Debate

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I think this was misunderstanding was a lack of historical knowledge.  The Kingdom of Prussia was the largest state in the German Empire.

 

 When you wrote Prussia, it may have seemed that you were discussing some place other than Germany, when in reality it was just further back in the history of Germany. 

 

Indeed it may have been a misunderstanding.

You would not believe that it was actually a homeschooling mother of 4 who informed me about all this! She teaches world history to her kids, including facts that are not widely taught in PS. The mom told me that she was disappointed that the history focus is mostly on US history, that it was important, but that there is way more out there and she wants to open her children's eyes and broaden their horizon beyond the US borders.

Not sure how much time a teacher at school would have had to talk about Prussia!!!!

 

 
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December 2, 2006, 9:59 am PST

FYI:

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You say the King of Prussia set the precedent over educational laws in his area. I am not arguing that.

But, it does not diminish the fact that Hitler outlawed homeschooling in his own Reich.

 

This reminds me of America.

The Native Americans did not have public schools. So, one could argue that they inadvertently set a precedent. However, that does not diminish the fact that we have public schools in our nation.

A homeschooling mother who takes her "JOB" serious has to read up on what she teaches her children. So had you been your children's teacher, you would have known about this extremly important world history fact.

 

 

 

 

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