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December 15, 2006, 1:08 pm PST

Children od alcoholics

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I grew up with an alcoholic mother.  Now I am 32 and she has been sober for 8 mths.   I realized that no matter how much someone hurts their family by drinking, they will not stop until they are ready.  It took a physicain prescribing medication and my mother finding out how bad her health was to want to stop.  Now, 8 mths later, she looks 10 years younger and is extremely happy minus the fact that she still lives with her ex-drinking partner.  She is working on resolving that marriage because she has realized that as a recovering addict, she can't live with someone who still drinks.  Thank you and your wife for having a show on this topic.  I felt the pain that the 15 year old boy did for many years.  He will find happiness.  As a grown woman with 2 children of my own, have choosen  not to let my children grow up in the environment of an alcholic.
I too grew up with a mother who drank. I was always living in fear as to whether my mom was drinking that day, or was it going to be a good day, and she wasn't. It was literally hell growing up and watching this destroy our lives. The fights between my mother and father, the name calling, hearing my mom saying to me, "I wish I never had you, I don't want you to go through what I went through. At times my mother was the sweetest, gentlest, and loving  mother that you could ever ask for. Those other days when she drank, you just wanted to hide and stay out of the way. It was embarrassing growing up, you would make excuses as to why we couldn't go to my house, but then there were times when everyone wanted to be at my house, they thought she was a fun mom, and she could be, but when she drank I didn't think it was funny. My friends thought she was just being funny, but in the pit of my stomach, i new it could turn in a flash that all hell could break out. Don't get my wrong I loved my mother as the years went on and I wasn't living at home we got along great like we were the best of friends. I just kept telling myself that when times were bad that she was just having a bad day. There were reasons that kept her drinking but I never understood them when I was  a kid. I had a brother who was ten years older than me and a younger brother who was five years younger than me. So I was in the middle always trying to keep the peace and not let things get out of hand. There would be things that happened that I just didn't understand especially when the fights started. I would blame my mother for them because of her drinking. Only after I was an adult did things surface where I  finally understood the reasons our lives were turned upside down. Later in life, my mother was very ill, she had heart problems and emphysema, did she start slowing down and finally quitting drinking and smoking, but it was too late, her body had been abused in so many different ways that at only 57 yrs, the age I am right now, she died. Then and only then did I know why she did what she did and I stopped blaming her for everything that went wrong in my life. My oldest brother is an alcoholic even though he's in denial and my younger brother died at age 47, from substance abuse and drinking. Luckily, I never wanted to smoke or drink, probably from seeing so much of it my childhood, but both of my brothers lived the same life I did except my oldest lived it ten years longer than I did. I wish there was something that could have been done, but back when my mother was young, it was a hidden secret. Living two lives can be a strain on anyone then put a substance disease on it then I guess unless you have the support you need, there is only one path your life goes down. I'm not saying it hasn't effected me in any way, because it did and profoundly. I just didn't use those things to destroy my life. There are more than those things that can ruin you from these effects. I was mentally abused, physically, and did things to escape what at the time I believed were the reasons for my problems. I still at times feel the pain as if it yesterday, but I stood strong and fought back for my life to get better. I have two sons, that I adore and have tried hard to keep them from growing up in the environment that I did, so they would never be embarrassed to bring friends home. Now they are grown, out on there own my oldest is married, but he does like to drink, and I'm so afraid of the old patterns forming that I nag him all the time about it for the fear of it happening to him too. If anything happened to either of my boys because of the background they came from I wouldn't be able to forgive myself for it. So please before you drink or use any kind of substances remember your children are watching and they are the ones who will suffer the most from it. Thank you for letting me get this off my chest and pray it does some good for others out there.
 
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April 9, 2007, 2:25 pm PDT

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This happened to me when I was a child,  age began????????  by my grandfater(maternal).  It ended when i was about 10 or so.  No penetration but sexual rubbing, touching his penis, etc.  I just started counseling a few months ago.  I have blocked out so much.  I can relate and hope adults read dr. phil's signs.   I only told my mother when I was in my late thirties, after I divorced my husband for being a peeper with my daughter.  He was her stepfather.  That was a mess.  I still feel guilty for letting him emotionally confuse me, so that my attention was not on her.  She did finally state what happened to her, touching her when she was in puberty.  when she graduated high school.  She did not want to file charges, due to emarassment.    We  need to do something about this and  all abusers need to be punished.     

 

I am finally trying to come to terms with own problems which have resulted from my abuse and my lack of noticing my daughters.  Can anyone identify???????????

Yes, I can identify. I was also molested by a family member when I was 5 yrs. old. My brother is 10 yrs older than I am, we lived in a dysfunctional family. My mother drank, my father worked, there was seldom any happy times that I remember except when I was with my grandpa. I loved my grandpa, he would spoil me, give me candy when he shouldn't have, and was always a safe place to go to when no one was home. It all started with my brother wanting to play games with me in the attic. we lived in an old style house where half of the upstairs was an open attic unfinished big room for storage. we use to play in there sometimes. that's when it all started. I never thought anything was wrong, he was my big brother, who I looked up to, who watch over me when my mother was out drinking and dad was working. Little things at first, then to watching me in my underpants as we used this old coat rack that was stored up there to use as a fire pole. climb up it and slide down, so your genitals would be rubbed and did you feel that isn't that fun. Other thing's progressed as the years went on to even going out berry picking, then making me lie down when he would get on top but I would never let him enter me. he just lid up and down like the fire pole. then it happened at home when no one was there, until I was probably about 10 and started realizing this isn't right and I was developing fast at a young age. I began to know that something wasn't the way it should be. the sad part was I never told anyone because I was afraid. Afraid that I would be blamed for all of it, so I've never told or even confronted my brother with it because I just wanted to forget all about it, that was over 50yrs. ago now. I still can't face the reality of what went down all those years ago. My mother and father are both dead now, even my younger brother who was born 5 yrs younger than me is gone. the only person left in this family is my older brother and me. I had a breakdown in 1996, maybe more like a burned-out breakdown, physically and emotionally. even then I couldn't tell people why. I finally found someone I could trust to talk, and that was my pastor at the church. It all began when I  was caring for my father when he had a stroke. I was unable to afford to have someone care for him, so I did my best at the time to arrange things and still try to work. things got progressively worse, and I no longer was able to hold a job and care for my father. I had promised long ago I would never put him in a nursing home and I did my best to keep that promise at the risk of my own sanity. I had two young children of my own, divorced, living with my father. For financial reasons we shared a home, and also because he was getting on in years it made perfect sense . I had a bout of Cancer in 1985, lost a breast and everything that emotionally goes with it, but my father stood by my side and helped with my kids for as long as I needed him. At the time my younger brother was not in good health with a wife who used her kids and my father for money and goodies and when I had to step up and take over the financial situation because of his illness money was a lot shyer and not freely given anymore. Which in short, estranged me from my younger brother for years. Then all of a sudden my older brother too needed help, he had surgery with no place to go after for respite, I said he could stay with dad me and the kids until he could get back on his feet again. It seems then that that's when all hell broke loose with me. I didn't understand why I was so nervous all the time, I began to invent reasons to leave the house I didn't need to be there 24/7 as long as he was there to look after dad. I would walk with a friend for hours every day maybe 7-8 miles a day just to feel stress free some days it would work other times it took more than that. She and I became very close on these walks and found out we had a lot more in common than either one of  us realized. She too had been abused and molested by her brother and sister. So we both needed to escape and we needed one another to survive. We became the best of friends and still are to this day because we both share the shame of what happen when we were young, but not only that we discoved we liked the same things and when her husband was dying I was there for her and went through it with her as if it was my own husband we became a source of each others comfort and we also knew each others pain. We also had enough sense to know when one was having a peticuliar bad day the other one would be the the stronger one for the support that we needed. It worked both ways and if we both were having a bad day we knew it would do neither one of us to be together because then all we did was make it worse on ourselves and we didn't need to do that so we stayed away from each other. Then I began to drink to numb the pain and memories that flashed back at me and all I wanted was to escape it all. My life all of a sudden turned upside down and I wanted to get off the merry-go-round that this world called life and not fast enough. That's when I knew I needed to talk to someone, anyone, but I had to be careful of who that was because, I still had two boys to raise and they needed me, I was all they had. I still didn't want to say too much or let anyone in too close either because when that happens, you get hurt and hurt was something I didn't need to have happen anymore. I counseled for over a year with my Pastor and started little by little to open up but could never get to where it was never my fault for the whole thing. I refused to be blameless and  how could anyone ever love me again like this. that's probably why both of my marriages ended up in the ditch. Anyway, I have learned to forgive him, but to never forget and I get through life one day at a time now. I guess after all this I'm trying to say is never trust your children to anybody, they are so precious, so much of a gift from God that you have to protect them with your very life. No one! and I mean no one, ever dared to touch my children because I was there for them from the time of conception until they were old enough to be on their own and even now find myself protecting them from anything that might hurt them. I'm learning to let go and let God now though, and I think I'm even trying to forgive myself again. but then these shows like this seem to bring it all to head like cold water thrown in your face, then there it is again, the pain, the raw emotions, even though topics on these types of problem seems to draw you like a fly to sugar, it seems like you can't not watch, even though you know what it brings out, I guess you keep searching for answers all the time as to why?????????? It gets a little better each time, not too bad or hurt so much, but it makes you angry. Does it ever go away?

 
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April 13, 2007, 5:58 pm PDT

Living with chronic pain is a pain!

I live with chronic pain every day.  I have muscular skeletal pain in my chest, back pain from a fall at work that damaged my spine and upper back. I have bulging discs in my spinal column, narrowing of the cervical discs with bulging and disc hibernation's of the lumbar region and neck area. Taken therapy to no avail went for nerve blocks of the neck and spine. still am taking a number of drugs for relief of the pain, muscle relaxers antidepressants, pain killers and the list goes on. i also developed fibromyalgia and have degenerative disc disease all through my back. I've been doctoring for this since 1999. this week I discovered now he suspects I have a hemidiaphragm on the right side and possibly beginnings of some kind of breathing problems, such as asthma, etc.. I've survived cancer of the breast, major depression, surgeries on my knee, reconstruction of my breast in 2006, raising two kids alone which are now grown and on there own. I just don't know if I can deal with any more health problems, or pain in my life. So I understand chronic pain all too well. this last problem I'm dealing with though is more than I know how to deal with. I'm 57 years old and shouldn't be having all these problems at my age. what scares me most is that my mother died when she was 57 and so that's on my mind too. I just want to feel better and have a normal life again. 
 
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April 16, 2007, 4:36 pm PDT

LIVING W/CHRONIC PAIN

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Welcome to the board. I'm sorry that you've been so much and are still suffering so much.

 

I'm Rebecca and have "Chronic Pain Syndrome" and I'm 18....almost 19. I also have TMJ dysfunction.

 

*HUGS*

 

Becca

XOXO

 I can sympathize with your pain, only someone who has can understand what you're going through. You're so young to have to deal with this, stay hopeful and know that my prayers are with you.

 

XOXOX

*BIG HUGS*

Dorie aka velvetbuny

 

 
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May 17, 2008, 12:00 pm PDT

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Wish I knew the right people to be able to take advantage of these shows and offers, I'm so tired of fighting this fat disease that I'm ready to have the lap band surgery. I've tried every diet known to man including starvation. I'm still fat, with all kinds of ailments that go along with being obese. How can someone who is no one get help?
 

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