Messages By: ktjktjktj

Quote From: lady_tinou

This topic did hit a nerve with you. If the hat fits, wear it. Dr. Phil is not doing any man bashing to my knowledge. He is just telling the things the way they are

MOST OF THE TIME when women seek for tips on how to get a man ( and yes there are the other kind of women out-there "the gold-diggers" but they are not the majority) they are looking for their sole-mate, a man that they can trust, with whom they can build a compatible and a solid relationship and maybe have a family eventually.

However, MOST OF THE TIME when men are looking for tips on how to get a woman (yes, there are lots of good men out there and I must say that in general they do not need those tips) it is to play them, have a one night stand, to add another trophy to their address book or even worse to just have fun with them. They have no regards for the woman's feelings.

In any case, WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND, these people who like to play and manipulate (man or women regardless of their gender) will eventually get what they deserve.

No... it is not wrong for men to look for tips on how to attract women when it is for the right reasons. It's just that very often when men do it, it is for the wrong reasons!!!

A Canadian viewer.

Quote From: rainpainrain

It might be helpful to you if you didn't speak as if all women think and act exactly the same way.  Believe it or not, women are individuals. Boobs? Yes. Vaginas? Yes. The exact same minds and personalities? NO!

If you are getting the same reaction from EVERY woman maybe it's time to check out the common denominator...you...not "women"....

Quote From: rainpainrain

Villainized? No...but it's gross. The class described above is about seducing beautiful women...that is gross. It's about manipulating another human being in order to get something out of them that you couldn't get HONESTLY.

Quote From: rainpainrain

Manipulating a woman because you want to get into her panties is gross.  I think it's just fine to like people who look a certain way, but from what I have read on the description of this show this is about MORE than that. This is about making yourself appear to have a different PERSONALITY and CHARACTER in order to seduce a woman, in order to get her into bed. THAT is gross.

And the last part of your post shows exactly WHY these superficial qualities are SUPERFICIAL. It's just like polishing dog crap...you can look good on the outside EASILY. All it takes is a little buff up. Your personality is harder to shine up. If you lie about the things you LIKE to talk about, if you lie about the way you NORMALLY are as a person for the simple reason of getting into someone panties, that is GROSS.

If you want to change as a person change for yourself, at trite as that sounds, there is wisdom in it. People don't want to have others put on an elaborate character changing, personality changing act just to get their loins lubed.

Quote From: gwarrior6

 

You know, if a woman did this, she'd be called a prostitute- trading sex, or the promise of it for money and assets.  Really, they're not even lying to get into their panties, they just want someone else's $ and if they happen to get laid in the process, hey, it's icing on the cake.  That's just awful, it's basically manipulative theft.