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January 2, 2007, 11:54 am PST

Curious

I have been treated for chronic depression for 11 yrs now; my current doctor wants me to seek treatment for bipolar disorder.What are some things I can expect? I have the depression under control I guess you can say, but the outbursts of anger and paranoia are in a world of their own.
 
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March 10, 2008, 12:45 pm PDT

I've been reading these msgs and

I found some to be interesting, some to be judgemental, some to be neutral.....it's interesting how people say how they would react if they were in my shoes, but they weren't and why is it so inconcievable that a teenager would lie about something like this? Not to long ago a female lied about an entire sports team raping her and she wasn't the first in the news. I had to consider many things before I chose to believe Chris over her; of course not all of that was revealed. also just because someone may be an x-con does not mean they automatically are guilty when accused of something.Doing this show was emotionally draining on all involved- and no I didn't chose to do the show so I could shame my daughter. And NO ONE ever did a poloygraph.

Personally I would have loved to have gotten some help after the show.

 
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March 11, 2008, 5:15 am PDT

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Leslie, I'm cutting you a lot of slack because, from what I've seen on today's show, you and Chris seem to be the most credible. I don't know what happened between you and your first husband. Maybe things just fell apart becuse you married younger than you should. But, he's remarried. And, I think it was your right to remarry as well. Chris seems like a decent man. Not everyone who's done time is scum. Some of them do learn from the experience.
Some, on this board, are accusing you of not believing Corina's account of  Chris "molesting" her. But, you believed it enough to move her to a safer place while he was being investigated. Since the investigation revealed that he hadn't molested her, are we to go on believing a kid who waited months to tell you. And, only because she didn't like his rules. .
You say no one did a polygraph? I thought Corina agreed to take one. Insisted on it, actually. And, that Dr Phil was making the arrangements. What happened? Did Corina chicken out?

Corina refused to take the test after the she was taped. In the what happened after the show(right after) before they flew back home she refused to take it.
 
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March 11, 2008, 5:31 am PDT

FYI

Just so everyone is clear ... Corina and Ryan refused Dr phil's help and Corina refused to take the poloygraph. 2 weeks after the show filmed(back in sept 07) she left him.I admitted I was not a great mom and maybe I should have never had children, but everyone needs to remember you don't have the whole story and I wanted it annulled because they weren't ready to take on being a husband and a wife- THAT"S IT. We did not pursue the annullment . Chris was investigated by the police over a 3 month period and No evidence was found to support her allegation. I could go on and on, but there's no sense in it. Thank you all for your input - the ones I liked and didn't like and I probably didn't like some of them because quite possibly you were right.

 
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March 11, 2008, 8:57 am PDT

no one said she was gone a yr

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I believe the actions of this 16 yr old child is alot deeper then coming from being spoiled. I had an only child (A daughter) and yes she was very spoiled..More from my Aunts..My Mother and Father and yes also from  myself. Her actions from being spoiled were not being married at 16 or needing to find a safe place to be. My daughter also didn't like following some rules yet she didnt get even by telling such deep lies.

Was she abanded? I  say yes ..There would be no taking my daughter to a safe place while I thought it out for a YEAR..I would of left that home WITH my daughter an done my investigating there. Your right..Others would of helped her..such as school officials..police and so on..But lets be serious..there is MANY so called SPOILED kids in this world..that don't need the HELP of Society to be safe..

She was not there for a year-she was at her friend's house for a couple of weeks.
 
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March 13, 2008, 3:41 pm PDT

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Ummm.. I am not sure who was lying. I do think Chris had something to hide by saying he didn't need a machine to prove he didn't do it. And every victim will handle things differently. My husband knows everything about me. He is my best friend in the whole world! So maybe she did confide in her hubby. (way too young to be married) But can you blame her for her choices. A year, no not even a minute!! I cannot imagine. I went on vacation for three days without my boys and couln't wait to see them. And did everyone forget about her other child? She signed adoption papers for both I think they said? You go mother of the year!
I have not made any comments yet; Corina has been trying to get rid of me long before this acusation. 2 weeks before she made the acusation she asked to go on a week long trip with me(I am an over the road truck driver) and i told her no. I've never tried to be alone with her. I did not take the polygraph test because the oppertunity was there when the acusation started and she refused to take it. I offered to take a polygraph when this first started if she would as well and she refused.I don't have to prove I'm innocent; she has to prove I'm guilty. BTW my time in prison was for worthless checks because I had a gambling problem which was back in 99'! I am defensive and angry about this because what her selfishness has put so many people through. I loved her with everything in me, but I hate her even more now.
 
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March 13, 2008, 3:48 pm PDT

pay attention

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Exactly! I can't believe the nerve of her so-called mother; calling her own daughter a liar! You're going to believe a convict over your own flesh & blood?!? Do you obviously think that children like her would make up stories like this? Plus I can't believe that people on this board like ramair are taking the mother's & the stepfather's side! It's very unbelivable. Not only that, but Leslie forced her daughter to marry Ryan, signed the papers to do it, sent her over to her friend's house for a couple of weeks! Plus the way in which the stepfather refused to take the test makes him guilty in my eyes! If he didn't want to take it, he must have something to hide, otherwise, he wouldn't look so guilty if he took it! I feel very sorry for Corina in this situation & hope & pray that she moves on away from this family.

Heeelllo-I did not force her to marry Ryan her father and step mother did. I never saw the papers much less signed them!
 
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March 13, 2008, 4:49 pm PDT

ok my/our story

I might ramble some, but sometimes that's the only way to tell a story is to tell it as it comes out.
Just some fyi- I was a mom at 17 .The man I married adopted corina when she was 2. we were married for 10 yrs.At 14, on mother's day weekend Corina was arrested with some of her friends for drinking in public and spent the weekend in jail. she said she did it so her bff wasn't doing it alone.she was on parole for a month.In her past right around that time i put her into counseling. father's day(1 month before the acusation) corina gave chris a father's day card that was very enduring and in her own hand wrote how he was an important part of our family,she was glad he was in it, and she loved him. she went to her bff's hse for the weekend and a b-day party. she was given rules and broke everyone-hence she was grounded. chris left on a trip very early july 4,2005-later that day she came to me with the acusation.i was frantic and scared, and dumbfounded-and we cried a ton of tears. I didn't confront chris until a day later on the phone. before he came back home i discussed w/corina about going to her bff's house while i sorted things out. somewhere before all of this corina spent about a yr with her biological father and his wife. in that time she accused him of abusing her and all it really was is he had rules, she didn't like them and had to "fix it". my mom and i drove there to "rescue" her and found out the truth. they were very good to her and I'm glad she got to know them. back to the acusation stuff... chris came home after I sent her to her friend's to "be safe" sent my son back to their father(1st hubby) and went on the road with chris and went through the investigation process with him(3 months). dss,the sheriff's dept in all states involved did not believe her due to no proof and all the info.....she went to go live with her dad and stepmom.everytime things didn't go her way she said her dad and stepmom were mean and hateful and whatever else she could come up with. they have 6 kids between the 2 of them and really it was a lot more stable a situation than what I was offering. chris and my son got along well when he wasn't being a typical kid and misbehaving. while corina lived with her dad and step-mom she met ryan and from what she told me her and her stepmother got into a physical fight and her stepmom threated to kick her, her dad, and her brother out if her dad didn't sign papers for corina to get married and get out that way.while my children were living with their dad and step mom they were very angry with me and sent me adoption papers. i was angry and hurt and decided they were old enough to suffer the consequences of their choices(14 and 12). their stepmom did not adopt corina she was married off. my son was not adopted until a yr later before their dad got orders to be stationed overseas. they refused to let me see or talk to my son for over a year. corina snuck calls to me. christmas 07' corina visited my mother and i saw her. we were polite to each other. before the taping of the show in sept07, corina and ryan came to my and chris' house for a visit and spent a week. chris was home for 24 hrs and was never alone with her, yet she came to tell me after he went back out on the road that he was apologizing to her for what he had done and remember he was never alone with her. while chris and i dated before we got married but after this supposedly happened she repeatedly asked to go on trips with him alone(and did not) would ask him questions about boys and sex and would tell him she loved him,go shopping with him, tell me how glad she was that i was finally happy. while she was married to ryan and they were living with his family her moth-in-law taught her how to shoplift and corina was caught for that.no jail time.we offered to put them back in high school , help them get a vehichle(chris' dad was getting ready to purchase one for her when she decided she was going to lve ryan)-she left to go back to ryan. chris gets very defensive because he WAS molested for yrs and knows that pain very well.our neighbors have children in the ages of 7-14 and chris told them about our story and told them he would never be alone with their children and never has. we are friends with our neighbors. I probably should have let their dad (1st hubby) and his wife have custody of the children when they first got married 5 or 6 yrs ago. I have made many poor choices and i know i can't take them back. i may not like their step mom but her household has remained stable.no strangers have my children-corina is still living in the state where she lived with her dad and my son is overseas with his dad and stepmom. it's been almost 2 yrs since i have been allowed to see my son. i have spoken to corina a few times since the show was taped.we are polite. i love my children and always will-even though i believe chris is innocent- i can't stop loving them and won't. i did the best i could and maybe it wasn't what was best, but it was my best.corina left ryan 2 weeks after the show was taped and i'm glad .she is working on getting a divorce. I hear my son is doing very well. this has hurt us on some many levels and not just us but our extended family as well. no male in our family will allow corina to come into their home. too many children are molested and won't talk about it just like women who get raped because of the ones that didn't and try to get innocent people put in jail. I'm human just like all of you-I too have flaws.I contact ed dr phil so i could get to the truth even if it wasn't good.chris' story never changed-hers has many times.you decide. As I said I have rambled but you get the gist of the story. Anyone is welcome to email me at cayenne_cb@yahoo.com. I hope this helps people understand a little better.
 
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March 14, 2008, 2:22 pm PDT

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Quote From: lashel52

Above is a post I wrote some time ago, perhaps you missed it.  I encourage you to take the opportunity to write YOUR story.  There are a lot of folks judging you...all of you actually.  I would really like to see you 'set the record straight'!   

 

Dr. Phil mentioned the adoption of your son.  There was no time given to fully explain that.  You mentioned that Corina's father and step-mother 'allowed' or pushed (whatever ther terminology) her marriage and that you hadn't been 'allowed' to see her or talk to her in over a year....WHY???  At what point did you learn of the marriage and how?  You mentioned she had lived with your mother...why?  What do you hope to accompish by annuling the marriage?  Do you and Corina still communicate?  Do you know what she 'wants' from you?  Does she know what you want from her? 

 

I've seen you post to correct folks when they post...why not just tell your story? 

 

I, for one, would be very interested in reading it.  NOT to judge you by, but to understand!  It's not about who is rite or wrong or who is lying or not, it's about understanding how everyone got to this horrible place in their lives!  Everyone is angry, but anger is a cover for PAIN.  Where did the pain start and how did it escalate to this point?  Teenagers lie (we ALL do), teenagers rebel (some more than others, some sooner than later).  In YOUR opinion, what transpired that caused Corina to spin so out of control that she is now married at 16 and seems to hate you?  By the way, I don't think she 'hates' you...I think she is hurt and NEEDS her 'mom' but doesn't know how to let you know that...too much water under the bridge so to speak.  I heard you when you talked about them coming to live with you and going back to school and how you think they should handle things.  Why did she refuse you?  Did she see it as you trying to 'control her life'? 

 

I would really like to hear your side of the story,

Sunny        

hi. i did write my story and put it on here you just have to go through all the msgs to find it.
 
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March 17, 2008, 12:32 pm PDT

fyi

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i am  Corina. and i have never said that i would refuse to take the test! dr. phil never gave us that option. it was mentioned on the show and nothing was ever done about it. it was taped back in Sep of 07. i am still 100% willing to take that test to proove to Leslie that i am still telling the truth. Leslie just stated that we didnt take the test. it was never offered!
that's what I was told by the show.
 

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