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April 17, 2007, 12:14 pm PDT

04/12 Twin Tug of War

Quote From: busyparents

 If you are going to make a statement about this situation - make sure you are accurate in your facts!!!!!!!!!! ALLISON DID NOT FORGE DOCUMENTS. SHE HAD THE BABIES' BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND PROBABLY THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY CARDS IF THEY WERE APPLIED FOR AT BIRTH. She obtained the passports legally - you can read this in the reports about her situation. You will see she did not lie to the border agents and traveled under her own name. That is not dishonest behavior. You sound like you have decided she is guilty and you don't even know the details. Read the stories and info out there and make informed statements, please! I'm assuming you must be friends with the Needhsams to say such unfounded remarks.

You make these comments about her instability or disturbed affect but you give no reason for it. She was calm and composed but anxious. Good grief - do you see that this woman has been thru hell for the last few years! Give her a break here. She was not of the right mind at the time of the signing to make such a decision. That was over a year ago. Should she have been caring for the babies at that time - maybe not - but that doesn't give ANYONE the right to take them forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you read that she said no immediately? Why would anyone keep her kids - that is cruel and causes irreparable harm to the kids. Where is your heart? Have one?

Kidnapping is fundamentally dishonest ~ that one tends to hold true across the various cultures ~ I don't know if you've noticed that.  I don't care how she did it.

 

And, if you didn't find her behavior disturbing ~ disturbing as in would not trust with kids until an exhaustive psychological evaluation is made kind of disturbing, well, there's not really anyplace we can go together with that.

 

You're obviously very worked up about this right now.  Just because I'm not doesn't mean I have no heart.  I just don't want to see the kids go to what might be an unsafe place ~ and yes, I'm more concerned about them than I am about her.

 

I didn't realize that we could print in bold and in red here ~ I'll have to remember that.

 

 

 
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April 26, 2007, 1:39 pm PDT

04/26 Obsessive Love

Quote From: janetbee

As a victim of domestic violence... I URGE this psychologically battered wife to seek refuge in a battered women's shelter.... her husband is going to try to kill her if she tries to leave with his knowledge....these shelters accomodate children.  If she doesn't leave she must resign herself to volunteer for this treatment.   She looks so visibly unwell, as if he is sucking the life out of her....

 

Just remember there are always choices. Right now is the time,   Shelter counselors will provide legal and financial assistance....I am living proof that there is a silver lining to all this suffering.  I can breath again.  I know she knows what I mean.

It's interesting I remember the husband commenting that he was upset that they were staying in separate hotels ~ I think there's a reason for this.  Dr. Phil made provisions so that when she tells him she wants out, he'll be able to ensure that she gets out safely.  She will feel freer to reveal her true feelings to Dr. Phil if she knows she doesn't have to go back to the same hotel room with Mr. Creepy.  It's just awful the psychological torture she has had to endure all these years!

 

I know that the show will be able to provide her with all of the best resources possible ~ she will be able to find a new life with her kids ~ free from this guy.  I don't think he's going to be able to stop stalking her, in which case, I think he will wind up in jail.  He is so sleazy and manipulative! And yet, he had the nerve to call HER a whore ~ that is just so WRONG! She seems like the sweetest person ever!

 
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April 26, 2007, 1:48 pm PDT

04/26 Obsessive Love

Quote From: bridget762

this is so sick , omg i'm so worried for this woman and kids, this man will not change, I know you will lead her the right way Dr Phil, but will she listen? I hope so,

Bridget

I think Jennifer will listen.  She seems like she already has one foot out the door ~ she's just looking for a way to escape.  She just looked so completely disgusted and fed up with Jeffrey.  Jeffrey thinks he can stop her from leaving, which is why he's dried up her finances and even tried to lock her in the house.  When she sees an open door into safety, I think she'll run through it with her kids just as quick as she can!
 
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April 26, 2007, 1:51 pm PDT

04/26 Obsessive Love

Quote From: kikisterling

THIS LADY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT SHE IS EQUAL TO BLAME! WHAT IS A WIFE/ MOTHER DOING IN BARS AND ON MYSPACE? I FEEL SHE MARRIED YOUNG AND SHE IS MAKING UP FOR LOST TIME. NO, HER HUSBAND IS NOT RIGHT FOR HIS ACTIONS, BUT SHE IS MORE TO BLAME IN THIS SITUTION. BOTH PARTIES NEED TO PART WAYS FOR THE SAKE OF THE KIDS. THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT AT THIS POINT THEY NEED SPACE FROM EACH OTHER. THE HUSBAND NEED TO FREE HIMSELF FROM SPYING ON HIS WIFE BECAUSE IT HAS TOOK CONTROL OF HIS LIFE. I CAN UNDERSTAND THIS HUSBAND. THE WIFE NEED TO FREE HERSELF BECAUSE SHE IS NOT READY TO BE A FAITHFULL WIFE.
She was so young when she got married ~ I don't think she ever really had a chance to just date and have fun and enjoy her youth!  And, she's obviously not having her romantic needs met in the marriage ~ her own husband creeps her out.  I think she would have left him fair and square if she had been allowed to but he stopped her at every turn.  As for the myspace, I think she was just reaching out to people ~ she seems like she was very, very lonely ~ after all, he shut her off from all of her family and friends! I agree, cheating on him was not wise or honest, but I certainly sympathize with her.  She seems like a very moral person ~ she's just been trapped in a nearly impossible situation for so long!
 
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April 29, 2007, 11:22 am PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

Quote From: justin16

 I THINK DR.PHIL HAS A LITTLE SOMETHING UP HIS SLEEVE. I THINK RIGHT NOW HE HIS HELPING JENNIFER AND HER CHILDREN GET OUT AND GET SOME HELP. I TRUELY BELIEVE THAT IF HE TOLD JENNIFER TO GET A DIVORCE IN FRONT OF JEFF ,THAN JEFF WOULD NOT HAVE AGREED TO HELP AND SHE WOULD BE HOME RIGHT NOW WITH THAT CREEP PAYING THE PRICE FOR HIS ACTIONS AND BEHAVIOR.  DR. PHIL KNOWS EXACTLY HOW TO HANDLE THIS VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION. JEFF IS A TIME BOMB JUST READY TO EXPLODE AND JENNIFER AND HER CHILDREN WOULD PAY THE PRICE. HAVE  A LITTLE FAITH IN DR.PHILL. AND I HOPE JENNIFER STARTS TO TRULY FIND HER INNER SELF. SHE IS TRUELY TO YOUNG (31YRS OLD) TO A GONE THRU THIS TERROR. YEAH SHE  AN AFFAIR BUT MY GOSH LOOK AT WHAT SHE HAD TO LIVE THRU. HER LIFE IS JUST NOW  GET READY TO BLOSSOM AND I HOPE SHE CAN RISE ABOVE ALL THIS HEART ARCH. TO EVERY-ONE OUT THEIR THAT BLAMES HER, JUST THINK IF THAT WAS YOUR DAUGHTER  WHAT WOULD YOU DO !!!! SEEING YOUR CHILD IN THAT MUCH PAIN. SHE HAS BEN ISOLATED FROM FAMILY AND FRIENDS. AS A PARENT JEFF IS LUCKY TO ALIVE!!! IF HE HAD DONE THOSE THINGS TO MY DAUGHTER LETS JUST SAY DOWN HERE WE WOULD FIND AN OLD OAK TREE. I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND SO CRUEL BUT I THINK OF MY OWN DAUGHTERS AND PRAY TO GOD THEY NEVER EVER FIND A MAN LIKE JEFF. HOPEFULLY THEY FIND A GUY THAT RESPECTS THEM AS DR. PHIL RESPECTS ROBIN AND HIS CHILDREN.  DR. PHIL IS A MAN THAT COMES ALONG ONCE IN A LIFE TIME. LIKE I SAID HAVE A LITTLE FAITH IN OWN "GREAT TEXAN DR. PHIL HE WILL SURPRISE ALL OF US IN THIS MATTER. JUST KEEP WATCHING.  GOD BLESS AND GOOD LUCK TO ALL THAT LIVE IN THE HANDS OF AN ABUSER.
Thanks for sharing this ~ I think you're right.  I was wondering the same thing when Dr. Phil advised her to put the divorce on hold for now.  I thought, "Why is he giving this guy false hope?" However, I did trust that Dr. Phil knew exactly what he was doing. I think your explanation makes a lot of sense.  Dr. Phil is giving the guy a chance but more than that, he's helping Jennifer so that if she wants to get away, she can do so as safely as possible.
 
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April 29, 2007, 11:25 am PDT

Question about Jeff

I have a question ~ this guy is insanely jealous to the point where he can't stand another guy even looking at his wife.  Why on earth would he by trying to coax one of his friends to sleep with her?  It makes no sense although crazy probably doesn't have to make sense.
 
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April 30, 2007, 6:42 am PDT

He deserved what he got

Quote From: riehou60

and....did he deserve to be cheated on? Thats all I want an answer to...from you. Did HE deserve this?

Does he deserve to be cheated on... well, he was abusive, so she certainly had the right to leave, she had the right to move on emotionally.

 

However, he wouldn't let her leave.  He locked her into the marriage just the way he locked her into the basement.

 

And, considering she was 19 and pregnant when she got pressured into getting married, she sort of got stuck into a marriage she didn't want to be in to begin with.  He didn't quite do the Borat thing with the rug bag over her head, but it came pretty close.

 

She had the right to move on emotionally.  So, I would say, yes, he deserved what he got.

 

He deserved to be cheated on.  Yup.

 
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April 30, 2007, 12:53 pm PDT

This may sound crazy, but I hope they can work it out...

There was something really poignant about looking at the wedding picture of these two ~ in so many ways they seem really well suited for each other.  They are both bright and charming and engaging.  They seem to have common goals and dreams.  And, each one of them wants to be loved and wants to be happy.  I think they could have a lot of fun together if it weren't for the fact that they both seem to hate each other right now.

 

Aside from that one tiny issue...

 
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May 10, 2007, 1:00 pm PDT

Question About Jeff

I know he is way possessive and can't seem to stand if another guy so much as looks at his wife.  So, why on earth was he trying to get his wife to sleep with his friends? What would be the logic (or illogic) behind that?

 
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May 10, 2007, 1:03 pm PDT

05/10 Obsessive Love: Secrets Revealed

Quote From: msmishere

He is going to end up killing her.

I hope not! Dr. Phil seemed pretty serious about keeping her safe.  If he's got to loan her body guards to guard her house for the next few weeks, I think he'll do it.

 

I hope a lot of people are keeping Jennifer in their prayers.  I know I am!

 

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