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November 16, 2005, 4:07 am PST

food as comfort

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I am glad I wasn't just being overly sensitive.  I hate being fat, but I hate the rude comments more.  I wish I had a great come back but I don't.  I work in the Health Care Field and see people who suffer greatly because of obesity and have no great answers.  I always tell my husband I have matured into twice the woman he married.  He response is I have had you skinny, pregnant, and over weight and the person you are hasn't changed and that's what I love.  He really doesn't complain.  I have great come backs for alot to stuff IE. a patient told me I was degrading God's creation because of my hair, make-up, and earrings.  He went I to quote verses of what a sinner I was...(he being a large man)  I said gluttony is also a sin and looking at the two of us we both have a few things to pray about.  For the most part though I cry about the comments alone and eat a snickers.   

I think the "food as comfort" is what makes it so hard to break out of the cycle.  Someone makes a comment about your appearance, then you feel bad, then you go for that Snickers bar. The Snickers bar leads to more weight gain, comments....you see what I mean.  I have used comfort eating after a bad day at work, or an argument with someone.  However it only makes me feel good for a short time.  Then guilt, and then "what's the use of trying...."  Someone a few posts back suggested key 3...cleaning up the environment ie. not having those foods in the house. I am substituting my daughter's lunch snacks with pretzels and popcorn so if I do grab one of those individual snack bags atleast it isn't chips!  

Your husband sounds like a great guy. He sees the inner person, unlike some immature men who only want tall skinny blondes with big chests. As far as rude comments go, yes, they are upsetting...I can't believe the audacity of people who say rude things about people's looks, weight etc.  I would NEVER tell another human being that they look fat, ugly or make any other mean comment to them.  Dr, Phil calls it "levelling". Trying to bring someone else down because the person making the comment feels insecure about himself. I'll bet if you look at the people insulting you, they are insecure about something...looks, family life (maybe some envy that you have a loving husband!!), getting ahead at work.  I don't have  many comebacks, but one thing you can try when someone says something rude is "what did you say? I must not have heard you correctly because it sounded like you said something rude."  That usually flusters them, even if you just ask "what did you say?" with an incredulous look on your face. Again, I would be interested in hearing what other people use for comebacks. 

Anyway, you are NOT overly sensitive and do not deserve other people's insults!!  Let me know how it is going for you. Julie 

 
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November 17, 2005, 5:02 am PST

to that restaurant customer.......

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Hi everyone, I am about 5' 4" and I weigh about 280 lbs. Thats after loosing 24 lbs. I was working in a restaurant one day and I had to go out in the dining room. While I was out there one of the male customers replied to another (loud enough for me to hear), "I think if it wasn't for fat people the world would be a much more beautiful place". I was so upset, I wanted to say to him "do you think I like to be this fat"? What a small mind he must have. I have read some of your stories and I think I will look for Dr. Phil book on weight loss. I have tried so hard to loose weight. I have tried slim fast, laxatives, sticking my finger down my throat, weight watchers, the cabbage soup diet, and many others. I am thinking about getting surgery but I feel it wont help if I can't get my eating habits under control. I feel so fat and unlovable, my husband doesn't say much to me but when he sees an over weight person he says "oh god will you look at that", or says to one of his buddy's " there is one for you" and laughs. What am I supposed to think he thinks about me? Everyone keep writing and I think that with all your ideas I might be able to do something about this. Nice to meet you all mental. 

To that restaurant customer who said "I think if it wasn't for fat people the world would be a much more beautiful place".... I THINK IF IT WASN"T FOR RUDE, INSENSITIVE, UNCARING, SELFISH AND MALICIOUS CLODS THE WORLD WOULD BE A MUCH MORE BEAUTIFUL PLACE"!!!! 
 
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November 17, 2005, 6:22 pm PST

great comeback!!

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Something like this happened to me also.  I turned and said to the person, "I may be fat but your'e ugly and I can go on a diet."  His face turned red and as he walked away. 
Great comeback!!  Loved it and glad you embarrassed that clod!!!!!
 
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November 18, 2005, 4:21 am PST

don't be scared!!

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 I MUST SAY , AFTER WATCHING THE SHOW AND READING THE BOARDS.. I AM SCARED TO DEATH TO STAY MARRIED.. NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SAY THAT. IT'S BEEN 17YRS ON DEC.28TH AND I MUST SAY WE HAVE BEEN AROUND AND AROUND AND BACK AGAIN. YET WE ARE STILL HERE. HE IS MY BEST FRIEND BUT TO HEAR THESE OTHER STORIES IT DON'T SEEM  TO MATTER MUCH. WHAT HAPPENED WHEN EVERYONE GOT MARRIED AND STAYED MARRIED. I TRY TO TELL EVERYONE TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK. BUT WOW IS THAT EVEN ENOUGH? HOW DO YOU KNOW? MY KIDS ARE 16 AND 14 AND I HAVE SAID TO MY HUSBAND MANY TIMES I DON'T WANT TO GET "BORING" TO EACH OTHER AFTER THEY LEAVE.  

YOU ALL HAVE ME SCARED NOW OF WHAT TOMORROW MAY BRING 

While we cannot predict the future with 100% accuracy it sounds like you have a good foundation there.  You say you two are best friends.  To me that is one of the most important attributes for a lasting marriage. Please don't keep saying to your husband that you don't want to get boring to eachother.  That in itself will get boring. Instead, evaluate your  interests and dreams.  When the kids grow up you will have more time and resources for vacations and persuing your interests together. Keep having fun together. Support each other during difficult times and communicate. Again, there is no  guarantee, but these ideas will certainly help keep you closer. I wish you the best. 

 
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November 18, 2005, 2:51 pm PST

bullying at 4

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Well according to my son's pre-k teacher that's "normal" behavior for the 4-5 age group.  I find that terribly sad and frankly unbelievable.  I think it's just and excuse - and easy out.  I'd certainly love to hear Dr. Phil's take on the situation.  I have an incredibly bright, joyous and loving 4 year old son who has been in preschool since the age of two.  He started 2 mornings a week at 2 and then went 2 -3 days a week at three (he asked for additional days he loved it so much).  He was in private schools at that time, but in the state of GA we have a thing called GA pre-k so this year he went to a public school.  What a nightmare.  The first two weeks he came home crying talking about a "triangle" where he wanted to be friends with a little boy who was also friends with another boy who didn't like him and was always telling him he couldn't do anything right, was stupid, that he didn't like him, that the other boy didn't like him, that he didn't like him and on and on and on.  He was so hurt - enough so that he found WORDS to tell me about it and tears to go along with them.  Anyone who has a four year old knows most of the time they don't find words to express themselves - they usually act it out.  Well, he's done plenty of that too since August and the hurt has progressed to anger - plenty of it.  He's also said he doesn't want to go to school - sad a mere 4 years old and doesn't want to go to school.  I was in the principal's office before the end of the second week - they said they'd address the situation...  Well, as you can tell, it hasn't improved.  My son's confidence level has just been completely deflated.   The teacher's position (and school's) is that the boys' negative, critical, hostile, demeaning, demoralizing behavior; the name calling; the pushing  - all of that is normal behavior for this age group and that one of the important skill building lessons of this age group is learning how to deal with that behavior - it's part of learning our social skills.  I've been told I'm just an over-protective Mother and that I'm spoiling my son.  I'm a pretty rational person.  I set limits, I really try NOT to spoil him - believe me he gets PLENTY of time-outs - especially with the mouth he's been bringing home lately!  I am trying to be objective, but I'm seeing the damage being done to my son before my eyes - I'm not seeing ANYTHING positive coming from this but I am seeing A LOT of negative.  I do believe that we all have to learn how to deal with negative critical nasty people in our lives - after all we will encounter them.  HOWEVER, I do not believe we need to learn to do that at FOUR.  I don't think four year olds have the skills or emotional strength to deal with this without being damaged in the process.  Four year olds need positive encouragement - they need love - they need a solid foundation so that they can deal with this kind of garbage from a STRONG standpoint later on in life.   Case in point, I took my son to say goodbye today (he starts at a private christian school Monday and my only guilt is I didn't rescue him sooner) and he sat at a table to do a worksheet where one of the boys was sitting.  He read a sentence "This is the earth." and pronounced it "Erf"  Well, the other boy said "THAT'S NOT RIGHT ITS EARTH EARTH EARTH YOU CANT DO ANYTHING RIGHT SAY EARTH SAY IT SAY IT!!"  The words weren't so horribly hostile, but the tone and the body language and the glaring at him were.  My son couldn't say another word. He hung his head.  When his teacher came around he wouldn't read another word all enthusiasm was gone. The kid even left me speechless.  I didn't know what to say for fear my words would have been more hostile than his! ;)  Anyway, my point here is I have no experience (other than my own 30 years ago) with public schools, but it seems bullying is even happening in Pre-K and I find that oh so sad.

Just read your post and I can't believe how the school handles bullying.  I teach 4-year-olds and have been doing it for 13 years.  I find it hard to believe that a teacher and principle would leave it up to a four year old to try to figure out on his own how to handle a bully.  I take name calling, mean comments, excluding kids, pushing, hitting  etc. very seriously in my classroom.  For aggressive behavior, the offending child would be separated from the other child and would need to "sit out" for awhile.  The child would be told why he is being timed out, and at the end of it we talk again about the behavior and the child is reminded of how he is expected to behave in school. For name calling, teasing, excluding etc. I will talk to both the excluder and the excludee. I try to get the excludee to see how he/she would feel if it was the other way around. Yes, it does take many repetitions at this age, but it is never too early to help children learn to regard others' feelings.  We also don't comment on others' artwork unless it is positive. Many times throughout the year we talk as a whole group about teasing, not sharing, name-calling, leaving others out. 

What really gets me  about your posti is that the adults at your sons school expected him to deal with this himself.  At FOUR????  What I do is try to TEACH kids skills  for dealing with these situations.  Like telling another child how they feel when they are called a name, learning to tell another to give the toy back he just took away etc.  Children don't automatically know these things; they need to be taught how to deal with these situations.   

I hope your child's next experience is a much better one. From the sounds of that first school it can't get much worse.  Best of luck!!!! 

 
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November 25, 2005, 1:02 pm PST

He's an immature boy!!!

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I was married to the love of my life for 14 years.  We had a wonderful marriage, and I loved him more than life itself.  I thought he felt the same.  One day he told me he had something to share with me - and he told me that our whole marriage was a lie, that he never loved me, and he was leaving.  He swore there was no other woman, then the next week, after a powerful sermon on temptations at church, he let it all out and told me about her - that he loved her more than anyone he'd ever known, and he loved her like a wife and me as only (ever) a dear friend.  We have 4 children.  The oldest was 11 and couldn't stand to live without dad, so he soon left to live with dad and his girlfriend, leaving us so broken and so afraid.  For survival's sake, for life and sanity, I moved away.  I couldn't bear to see him with her, or have him come over, visit the kids, flirt with me, and turn right around and go home to her.  It's been just me, my (now teenage) daughter, and my two handicapped sons now for almost 8 years.  Twice I have dated, and twice it didn't work out because of the two handicapped children.  It's hard enough to find love at my age (almost 49), much less ever hope to find someone that can love my children (ALL my children), or that has enough love in his heart for me and my children, to be willing to share in this lifetime responsibility.  I feel as though my only chance to have a loving husband and companion to share this life with, has been stolen from me by a man who never even loved me either.  I feel almost as though I'm cursed and unloveable, and for the life of me, I can't figure out why.  I feel it is so unfair that he gets to love and laugh and spend his life with someone to love and be loved by, and I don't.  He gets off with a life of no responsibility except for minimal financial support for the children, and I get to raise them alone - with no one standing by my side to encourage and love me when I feel I'm overwhelmed, or to help me once my daughter goes off to college and then to her own life.  There is so much love inside my heart and so much sadness that I will probably never again have the privelege and the blessing of being loved in that special way that my soul still desires, but my mind and heart daily strenghthen the walls of protection but I just don't have the strength to endure any more emotional pain.  I hold my head up high, I work hard, I chip away toward my degree (online) that I will someday finish, and I do my job well.  I understand about the starting over, and starting a new life without the ex, been there, finally got him out of my system, but I simply don't have the luxury of life choices that alot of other women out there (who have also been dumped) have.  I know 2 other women that this has happened to as well, and with almost the same story from the ex.  Of course it's all our fault, and we've bore that guilt and that torture for so many years.  Only a miracle could give me a new chance at life, and so far, God hasn't chosen to grace me with that.

First of all I really feel for you being in this situation.  I know firsthand the trials and challenges of raising a handicapped child. It is very difficult. 

I know you say your husband was the love of your life, but from what you describe he sounds like an immature boy.  When life threw a curveball (2 handicapped children) he decided to be a little boy and run away to play. How he can claim to be a dear friend to you, I don't know.  My dear friends would not bolt the minute things get rough.  That is when they stick by your side and help you through.  Also what kind of man is he if he is only providing minimal child support for handicapped kids???  Maybe you should be fighting for more.  

Don't forget too that he is also a cheat and a big liar.  He didn't even own up to the truth for a whole week after he said he is leaving, when he insisted there was no other woman.  I guess what I am trying to do here is to say you didn't lose much of a prize.  He is a little boy who can't handle responsibility or adversity.  

Please don't think of yourself as being unloveable.  You got a raw deal but you are NOT unloveable.  Keep working for that degree.  I know it is hard to go to school at the same time you are working and raising kids, but it can be done.  I went for a special ed masters while working and raising young kids; one of them handicapped. Try to get the child support payments increased. Also check your state's requirements for supplemental security income for the 2 handicapped kids.Go to support groups with other parents of handicapped kids.  This is a good way to make new friendships. Give yourself lots of credit for all you do...working, raising kids, having a big heart.  Make your internal dialogue positive, instead of saying you are unloveable.. You will project a more positive image if your internal dialog is positive. And don't believe that it is your fault.  HE is the cheat, liar, immature boy who didn't stick around when things got rough. HE is the one who should feel guilty if there is a conscience there at all to prod him on to feel the guilt he should. Hope this helps you start on a journey to feel better about yourself.  You have alot to be proud about; you just need to start believing in yourself again. Best of luck to you.  Julie 

  

 
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November 25, 2005, 1:24 pm PST

Just wondering...

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My husband of 10 years left me for another woman, leaving me with 2 children, ages 4 and 7.  I was not working at the time and he spent months acting like he had no responsibilities while I took care of paying all the bills (from our savings account and whatever money he felt like giving to me) and caring for the children.  It's been 4 years and I had to get an attorney, sell our house and move into an apartment, return to work and still be responsible for the children 75% of the time. I'm healing over the hurt that he caused me. 

          What had made my divorce even more painful is the lack of support from my own family.  My mother asked me "What did I do to drive him away?"  She took my ex-husband out for his birthday, with his new girlfriend!  My sister drives my mother over to his house to visit the kids almost every week(my mother doesn't drive), when I live only 15 miles further away.  All of us live in the same county. So many other instances, but you get the idea.  This has been going on for the past 4 years (even during the time he refused to pay me any spousal/child support).  I've told them both how I feel and have asked them to be more loyal to me.  It hurts me so much, like I am the one who cheated and left the marriage!  I feel like I've been kicked when I'm down. 

       I know what they are doing is wrong, but I can't understand it.  Can anyone give me their thoughts about their actions?  Why would they act like this towards me? I don't even contact them anymore.  Should I try again? Why would my ex-husband even want to continue seeing them? 

      Thanks for your replies! 

  

           

  

  

How was your relationship with your mother and sister before the split-up? Were there any conflicts prior to this that might explain their actions? From what your mother said about what you did to drive him away suggests a flawed relationship. That  statement also reflects   a complete disregard for your feelings. I don't blame you for feeling that it is a slap in the face.  They should be supporting you, not him, through this. You are their blood.   

The one question that I think I can answer is why your ex-husband would continue to see your family.  He is probably enjoying this because he must know it bothers you.  Sounds like a real loser, especially considerring how he took no responsibility for paying the bills......using your family to get to you all but confirms his loser status. 

As far as contacting your family again, how have they acted in the past when you contacted them?  Have you ever asked them why they have no regard for your feelings? Quite frankly I think that NOT regarding your feelings on this is a deal-breaker. I might give them one more chance to explain their actions, probing deeply into why it is more important to be taking him and his girlfriend out to celebrate birthdays, and continuing a relationship with them is more important than your feelings. If they continue to be so insensitive to you then perhaps you are better off not seeing them for a long long time. 

 
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November 27, 2005, 7:48 am PST

"People Pleasers"

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Thanks for your reply!  It was nice to have my hurt feelings validated by you.  I have always been the people-pleaser in my family and former marriage that I needed to hear that my own feelings are important.  Prior to the divorce, my sister and I were very close.  I have told her about my hurt feelings many times before, my dad has even talked to her (my parents are divorced), but she has spent even more time with my ex and his girlfriend after those talks.  My mother and I were never very close, but I was so supportive of her during her divorce.  She is a very self-centered woman, never supportive to me. I keep wanting that love and support that I never received.  However, I've made it very clear to her how her actions have hurt me and every time I have talked with her, she has only yelled at me and told me that I am too sensitve.  The last time we talked, I was crying during the phone call as I was telling her my feelings and she hung up on me.  I haven't called her back since, it is too emotionally painful for me and she has told her friends that she has "disowned" me. 

            I would like to advise any other woman who is going through the pain of divorce to ONLY surround yourself with people who support and love you.   Being with family or friends who don't support you only makes you feel worse.  Maybe that's a good side-effect of divorce - you find out who your real loved ones are and you can divorce the "bad" friends/family too. 

  

Hi again.  I am glad my reply was helpful to you.  I do want to add a few more thoughts.  First of all, it sounds like your Dad is supportive of you. So it seems that he could be your "soft place to fall". If you have tried all those times to get through to your Mom and sister and they are still so insensitive to you, then you may be beating yourself against a brick wall.  It isn't worth it to keep calling and trying and getting upset every time when they don't respond to your feelings. As a sensitive "people pleasing" person myself I have eventually realized that certain people can't be reached, when you act upset, even when they see how hard you are crying and how hurt you are.  Sometimes you have to kick back instead.  I think you have two options now.  The crying isn' t working.  You can either cut off ties with them altogether, OR if you do talk to them again, instead of crying and talking about your hurt feelings, you can get ANGRY!!! Let them know that you've had enough of their nonsense and that you expect to be treated with respect by them. Let them know it is disgusting how they chose him over you.  Let them know that you will no longer be manipulated by them and that the deal is if they want you in their lives they are going to have to be sensitive to your needs. Let them know their behavior is a deal breaker and either it changes or you are walking out the door and slamming it shut.  And do it! 

It is hard to accept that you may not get what you want from certain people in your life. Like love and support.  As Dr. Phil sometimes says, you can give to yourself what you wish you had gotten from others.  Tell yourself you are worthy, loveable etc. Get the support from you Dad since he sounds like he can give it. Oh just had another thought....could part of the reason they are acting this way have anything to do with your relationship with your Dad?  (If so it is awfully immature of them!!) 

Good luck to you!  Julie  

 
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November 27, 2005, 7:50 am PST

Agree

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You have to put yourself in the place of those 4 women.  They had so much happen to them that they weren't able to give themselves permission to feel angry at their exes.  They were still blaming themselves.  When your spouse leaves you, and cheats on you, your self-esteem is completely gone.  You really do believe that it is your fault.  Saying "It wasn't my fault" gave them an entirely new perspective. These women didn't even know that they had the right to be angry because they were too busy blaming themselves or hurting from their divorce.  I thought it was amazing to see these women transform after they faced their pain/anger and expressed it.  These women have had to be strong for themselves and their children - they didn't have the luxury of acting carefree and selfish because their exes left them with all the responsibility.  If they didn't get to beat the chair, they'd  continue to beat themselves up mentally.
There was a definite purpose to the chair thing, a way to let it all out.
 
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December 1, 2005, 3:56 am PST

Robin

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Point blank....Dr. Phil saved my life with his words after reading his book's however after the first show of the first WIVE's it was Robin's face and Robin's words from that show that popped in my head when I was in DANGER in NOVEMBER 15th 05  I pulled on her as a coping stragie.... 

  

So Please Put her on more show's....and something else I have noticed....I now like you very much Dr. phil but really what are you like 30 years older than your beautiful wife or what!  No wonder why her parents were miffed at you....Oh boy!  No wonder....Thank you Robin ...Keep telling it like it is....People really really respond to it and the camera likes you cutie   xoxo 

Robin is actually about 50 or 51.  Looks fabulous for her age!!!  So glad to hear she was so helpful to you.  Sometimes a woman just needs a woman to provide support.  Maybe we feel they can understand our perspective better. Have a great day!!
 

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