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February 19, 2007, 6:54 pm PST

Hello everyone! New here

Hello everyone! This is my first time on the Dr.Phil message boards, forgive me if I'm not doing this right. My name is Mandy and I have been in a relationship for three and-a-half years.  I'm not married but we are considerd "common law".  Anyways, I have a problem I was wondering if anyone could help me out with.  Its really not that big of a deal compared to some people, but its been hurting me.  I'll start, he never got me a valentines day gift this year.  So he told me he would take me out to dinner and we would spend some time togeather[we rairly do anything alown]  so I got my hopes up.  We got up that morning, he told me he had to go to work, which of coarse I undrstand so he goes off to "work" and I stay at home with the kids.  He calls me @ 2pm asking me if I could get a babysitter, I did, my mom came over.  Well 4 hours later he never showed up.  It turns out he was at his buddys house all day working on his truck.  He never went to work like he said he was.Then he compleatly ditched me off. His buddys wife called me to see if I would come over because hes been there all day!!!!! I dont know how to let him know hes been hurting me with his games like this.  He does things like this all the time to me, how can I get him to start caring about my feelings for a change?  I always put him first and he always puts me last.  what can I do?  This has been going on for a year now!!!!! Thank you for your time and I hope you have some ideas for me.  

 

 

 

 
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February 20, 2007, 10:16 am PST

I see what you mean

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Your situation must be very hurtful emotionally and possibly harmful to your health.

 

My b/f and I are also experiencing problems (see prior blogs) so I am not expert, but I want to help as I see a lot of parallels. There is definitely something causing your b/f to act this way. But guessing what that could be is like searching for a needle in a hay-stack.

 

Clearly, you both have a communication problem. This needs to be improved if this relationship is to survive. Sounds like your b/f also has passive-aggressive behaviour like mine. (google PA behaviour to find out more). One way to deal with his behaviour is to set boundaries for yourself. Consider telling him (in a non-accusing, non-judgemental way) it's NOT acceptable to you to be treated this way and you will continue to confront him every time he does. If he still continues, you should consider ALL your options including: seeking counselling individually/together, moving out for a while, leaving the relationship etc.... (up to you what options you see available to yourself).

 

It is important for you to realise that you only have power to change yourself, not him. You can continue wishing he did this, or hoping he does that, but change with him can only happen if HE WILLINGLY wants to change. You could (slyly or manipulatively) make him do something for you, but I can bet you that you won't feel happy cause he didn't willingly and freely give to you from his heart. Also, it is not right to confine your partner from doing something he wants to do. e.g If he wants to fix a broken down truck - let him. You can go paint the town red!

 

Stop looking at him or anyone else (i.e. externally)  to make you happy. The key is YOU. What do YOU want from this relationship? Why are YOU allowing him to treat you this way? What can YOU do to improve your situation? How can YOU make YOURSELF happy? (the latter is what I myself am struggling with.) It seems you heavily depend your b/f to make you happy. The problem with this is, when something goes horribly wrong with him/your relationship (like it is now), it's like your whole world comes crashing down, right? And for him, can you imagine the burden he might feel in being responsible for making you happy all the time? In a healthy relationship, it shouldn't be this way. Hence, we need to take responsibility for our own happiness.

 

Look after your own personal development - research this, read books, search the internet, go for counselling etc....

 

Without a doubt, you deserve to be treated better and you have a right to feel hurt/angry/confused etc.... But remember, he is not responsible for your happiness and you do not have to power to change him. Just ask yourself - what makes you happy over and over? Respect yourself, build up your self-esteem, find your inner strength and let your inner-beauty shine through! Once you become a more self-assured person, you will be a more positive and more attractive person to be around and perhaps your relationship will improve. Furthermore, you will then be able to see clearer if this is the relationship for you.

Your so right!  I realy do look to him for my hapyness.  Lots of people have told me that, my mom, friends etc.  But coming from you it somehow means more.  I guess its because we dont know each other.  Your right though, if he needs to fix his truck by all means, fix it!!!  My point was he felt he needed to lie about it, by telling me he was at work.  That type of thing is his hobby and I would never stand in the way of that. 

 

I am going to consider looking up the P/A sites, and maybe counselling would be a good idea for me.  I'm just at a point in my life now wher I feel like me and my kids are the only ones that exsist.  I just dont really have anyone to talk to anymore.  I'm 20 with 2 kids and hes 28.  All my friends are still single with no kids.  I just feel like I missed out on alot.  I still love my friends to death, but I'm at a different stage. 

 

 I'm glad I found this site!  Time to think about me.  Thank you so much I"ll have to work on myself for a change!  Hope to hear from you again!

 
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February 20, 2007, 12:44 pm PST

you helped me, so i'll try helping you...

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I have been experiencing really bad heart pains the last couple of months over the problems I feel I'm having with my b/f. Although he may not be totally happy in our relationship, I don't think he's suffering like me, and I doublt he takes our problems to be as serious as I do. Maybe I'm worrying too much over nothing?

 

I feel a loss of intimacy and happiness sometimes. I don't know why I'm sad or anxious about our relationship. The last several months I have felt him pulling away. We don't really talk or discuss many intimate things, and intimacy is something I really need - even in a relationship with just a friend. He has real problems with sharing. Ww have seen a relationship counsellor who thinks we are compatible, but just told us to focus more on the positive side of things rather than the negative. The counsellor suggested my b/f try and move out of his comfort-zone and and I stop nagging him about doing things. Since seeing the counsellor, I have seen my b/f improve in his relationship with me.

 

Prior to seeing the relationship counsellor, my b/f bought me an engagement ring - at my request - which gives me even more heartache cause i'm not sure if he's ready to get married, and not sure if he's giving it from his heart. He's been telling me for over a year that we'd be married soon but it just hasn't happened and our relationship is spiriling downwards. He's not a highly mature individual either cause he depends so much on his parents to help him. I didn't ask for the engagement ring to trap him. I asked because he kept fluctuating between wanting to stay and wanting to leave the relationship. I needed proof that he is committed. If he wasn't willing to buy it, I was going to walk away that day. This is because my b/f was confused about us, and his mixed signals behaviour made me sad and confused to. Hence, I made him get me an engagement ring so he would "think" before impulsively acting. Since he got me the ring, he has become a little more steady when relating to me.

 

But it is not stopping the heartache. I have been thinking about leaving the relationship (not because I want to) but because I believe it is hurting my health. I see some good in the relationship and think it "could" work, but I also see the problems and it brings me down. I told the counsellor I wanted to leave but he said I was being rash and tried to assure me that my b/f is committed to this relationship. Commitment is not enough for me. I want to be happy and I want my b/f to have me as his highest priority - not his parents or his career.

 

Should I leave? If not, why am I not happy? why am I feeling so much pain all the time?

 

I believe all relationships have their ups and downs, but if it's causing physical health damage, is there any point going on? I know I need to take care of me. I know I need to make myself happy rather than rely on someone else. Sometimes I feel I have become dependent on him to make me happy - it has never been this case before in any relationship I've had. I know I need to snap out of this and find my own 2 feet again but maybe a clean slate would help?

 

First of all for your question "should I leave?"  Have you ever considerd maybe taking a break from one another?  This would show both of you how you realy feel about one another.  I mean if you miss him like crazy and feel like you cant go another day with out seeing him, maybe deep down you really are happy and you have enough energy to really sit down with him and make it work.  But.... on the flip side of things, if you find yourself feeling good, feeling at peace with yourself, maybe you are ready to leave the relationship.  It really is your call. 

 

But you know if you really belive your health is at risk  I think you should really conisder some "me" time out just to clear your thoughts.  Also have you talked one on one with your counsellor?  It may help to get some thoughts out face to face. 

 

And the engagement ring? Hmmm?  Have you considerd giving it back and telling him to give it back when he feels its the right time for the both of you? I dont know, i know when I got my ring I was to attatched! [lol]  But seriously do you know what I mean? 

 

But anyway, I hope for all the best I really wish I could be more help, I'm sorry. 

Just follow your heart in every situation and I think you'll make the right choises!

 

Hope to hear from you soon!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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February 22, 2007, 5:25 pm PST

Does it ever end?

I have posted a message on here before and someone gave me good advice and I do apreciate it.  But does it ever end?  I know I need to realize that I have to make me happy but why is it so hard?  I still look to my b/f for all my happiness.  Last night he went out after work with friends as per normal, while I stayed home and cooked dinner [ like I always do ] with my two girls.  I told him last week, how he makes me feel when he ignores me and just takes off.  I told him how I feel when he lies about where he is and when he avoides my phone calls..... so on and so on.  So what does he do?  He answers my first phone call which was around 7pm to let him know dinner was ready, and I wanted to know when he planed on coming home[he gets off work at 5:30pm] He says, alright baby I'll see you in 20 min I'm just at the bar up the street.  2 hrs. go by and I try calling him again and now of coarse, I'm pissed, he knows this, so he avoids all my calls the rest of the night so whatever right?  I cant tell him what to do, I cant control him so I put my kids to bed around 10:30pm and I went to bed after  trying him on his cell "only" about 10 times.  I got up the next mornig with my 9 month old around 7:30am and he STILL wasent home!  I just dont get it.  He finaly got home at 1pm and pretended like every thing was normal.  Other than the fact that he didnt go to work.  I asked him where the heck he was, he told me he stayed at his best friends house because he "forgot" the number for the cab.  I mean realy, does it ever end? If so,when? The lies just dont stop their constently pouring out of his mouth.  He is 28 years old and he still feels the need to act like he's 18.  I am 20 years old looking after owr girls and I act like I'm 28.  I just dont know what to belive anymore, what can I do to feel happy while still dealing with his childish stunts? I just want us to be a family.  I mean yes we do have owr good days too, but why does there have to be more bad days?  Do you think hes just not that in to me?  Do you think he regreats us?  Maybie its because i'm so young compared to him? I feel like hes pushing me away so i'll get sick of it and just leave our life behind.  What do you think????
 
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February 23, 2007, 10:40 am PST

Thanks for responding.

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well, honey, you need a partner not an extra child. and this guy isn't being a partner. and he clearly doesn't give a crap what buggs you and what doesn't. so you have a choice to make. you can allow him to continue to treat you with disrespect or you can DEMAND respect. there are ways you can do this. subtle ways. don't wash his clothes. don't cook for him. don't clean up after him. ignore HIM. and see how long it takes for him to notice. and he will notice, the first time he comes home and there's no supper for him. or he goes to get clean clothes to get ready for work, and there are none.

 

he needs to get the message that he's got a relationship to keep up. if you're important to him, he'll change. if you're not, he'll bolt. either way, you're happier. if he wants to be part of your life, he needs to BE part of your life. right now, he's just living with you and enjoying the perks of having a girlfriend without having to do any of the work. that needs to change if you're gonna be happy.

Thanks for responding to my message!  Honestly, I have left him without dinner [last night] and I also havent washed his clothes, but it always seems to blow up in my face.  He throws temper tantrums worse than my two year old and storms out of the house in to his garage.  Then I always feel bad and run down and do his laundry, or end up cooking him something to eat anyway, because I just dont like to fight.

 

You are so right about him changing, if I'm important he will, if not he'll leave.  I'll try to stick to my guns and not cave when he throws his fit, instead of runing down stairs and throwing a load of laundry in, I'll ignore him and not even aknowlege that hes  there. I find it hard to find the strength to defend myself against him but, I will try.

 

Thank you for your advice, I'll try and toughen up....

 
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February 23, 2007, 10:40 am PST

Thanks for responding.

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well, honey, you need a partner not an extra child. and this guy isn't being a partner. and he clearly doesn't give a crap what buggs you and what doesn't. so you have a choice to make. you can allow him to continue to treat you with disrespect or you can DEMAND respect. there are ways you can do this. subtle ways. don't wash his clothes. don't cook for him. don't clean up after him. ignore HIM. and see how long it takes for him to notice. and he will notice, the first time he comes home and there's no supper for him. or he goes to get clean clothes to get ready for work, and there are none.

 

he needs to get the message that he's got a relationship to keep up. if you're important to him, he'll change. if you're not, he'll bolt. either way, you're happier. if he wants to be part of your life, he needs to BE part of your life. right now, he's just living with you and enjoying the perks of having a girlfriend without having to do any of the work. that needs to change if you're gonna be happy.

Thanks for responding to my message!  Honestly, I have left him without dinner [last night] and I also havent washed his clothes, but it always seems to blow up in my face.  He throws temper tantrums worse than my two year old and storms out of the house in to his garage.  Then I always feel bad and run down and do his laundry, or end up cooking him something to eat anyway, because I just dont like to fight.

 

You are so right about him changing, if I'm important he will, if not he'll leave.  I'll try to stick to my guns and not cave when he throws his fit, instead of runing down stairs and throwing a load of laundry in, I'll ignore him and not even aknowlege that hes  there. I find it hard to find the strength to defend myself against him but, I will try.

 

Thank you for your advice, I'll try and toughen up....

 
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February 23, 2007, 10:42 am PST

oops!

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Thanks for responding to my message!  Honestly, I have left him without dinner [last night and I also havent washed his clothes, but it always seems to blow up in my face.  He throws temper tantrums worse than my two year old and storms out of the house in to his garage.  Then I always feel bad and run down and do his laundry, or end up cooking him something to eat anyway, because I just dont like to fight.

 

You are so right about him changing, if I'm important he will, if not he'll leave.  I'll try to stick to my guns and not cave when he throws his fit, instead of runing down stairs and throwing a load of laundry in, I'll ignore him and not even aknowlege that hes  there. I find it hard to find the strength to defend myself against him but, I will try.

 

Thank you for your advice, I'll try and toughen up....

Sorry, I didnt mean to post it two times!
 
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February 23, 2007, 4:23 pm PST

help if you can

I'm 20 years old, I have a two year old and a 9 month old.  I used to be thin, I HAD a very nice body.  The man I'm with now is the father of both my girls.  He's 28 and still very attractive.  He works in construction, building houses all day so he is very fit, all muscle NO FAT.  My problem is I dont feel that I amount to his standards anymore.  I dont have my hour glass shape anymore.  Shure, my boobs are bigger, but also saggier from breast feeding both my kids.  I find that now that my body has changed so much in the past two years, I'm unconfterble having sex, because it gives him a chance to see my body.  I cant even undress in front of him.  I am so ashamed of how I let my body go.  I resently went to the mall to look for new pants, I didnt buy anything for myself because I was so ashamed of the size that I am now, i went strait to the baby asil got my girls a few outfits, then left.  Latly every miniut of every day all I can seem to think about is my weight and it just seems to get worse every day.  He constantly tells me how beautiful I am but latly its just not enough.  I dont know whats wrong with me.  I wish the thoughts would just stop.  I wish I could be at peace with my body, but i just cant seem to get there. yet anyway.  Please, if you understand the way I feel could you maybe help me make sence of it all? 

Any advice would be muchly apriciated.

 
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February 25, 2007, 3:51 pm PST

Things seem to be geting better....

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isn't that how he's been treating you? as if you don't matter except when he wants something from you? and tell him you want a partner not an extra child. because he is NOT being a partner. partners care about your feelings and answer the phone when you call.

 

those are his kids too. how often does he help you with them? feed them, dress them, bathe them? how many times a week does he help out? how many times in a month does he help you with his own kids? you need to think about these things. he continues to act in a childish manner because he's been allowed to get away with it.

 

you deserve help and respect. DEMAND IT! or demand he leave. either way, you're gonna be happier in the long run.

Thank you so much again!  Well, The rest of the week seemed to be going better.  We spent some time togeather with our girls.  But as you know with men, that can change right soon!

However i'm trying to keep a positive attitude.  I havent done his laundry in about 3 days now.  I dont remember the last time i cooked. [feels good not to].  I went to the mall today and got myself some new clothes for a change.  He'll be pissed, But i realy dont give a f***!  He truly did apolagise for the way hes been treating me, he says he takes me for granted.  I dont really know how long this is going to last, but for now were good.  And i feel that he is shoked at the way i've been acting...Thats good though!

 

 

Again thank you it feels good to have someone to talk to.  Thanks for writing back again, hope to hear from you soon, you have wonderful advice!

 
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February 25, 2007, 3:57 pm PST

I agree too!!!!!!!!!

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i agree with this 100%. this is what i've been saying. or trying to say. thanks man. now i don't feel like i'm running around out in left field.

Dont worry i got what you were saying, and i respect that you have takin the time to respond.

 

I've just allowed myself to be blind, when all the answers are in front of me, helps to hear other peoples input.

 

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