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April 14, 2007, 12:26 pm PDT

Hyperemesis

I was very happy that Dr.Phil  was discussing hyperemesis . This is a disease  that very few people understand and it needs more discussion. My story starts with the fact that all I ever wanted was to be a mom and have lots of babies. After multiple miscarriage heartaches and then one year with no success while trying. i was placed on clomid a mild fertility drug. Well the first month I took the medicine I got pregnant again. I had such a good feeling this baby would survive. I was SO happy little did I know what i was about to face. My symptoms began 3 weeks after I got pregnant. I was just so nauseated.. I actually wished I could throw up to feel better. Well, I did one day and it never  stopped for 4 months. I vomited 25-30 times a day . I vomited blood and bile. I lost 25 lbs. I could not keep anything down and I lived off Iv's for 4 months. I had over 50 Iv's because my veins kept collapsing. And spent 60 or + days in the hospital. It was the most horrible thing I would have to face. I laid motionless in a hospital bed for months believing that Hyperemesis would kill me.By week 18 it had turned off like a light switch and I stopped vomiting. But, the toll it took on me and my body did not end there. I has kidney stones from being so dehydrated in my 6-7 months.  And being back in the hospital brought back the horror of HG. I must say I was under the care of the best OB named Dr. David Deitrick of Mercy Hospital in Pittsburgh, PA   who was very sympathetic with  what I was going Through.. With the help and strength of my family I made it through and delivered a beautiful, healthy baby girl.  I had to have Fundoplication surgery due to the damage in my esophagus from severe reflux and for a hiatal hernia both from the vomiting. Now , I face a new stress of people pressuring me to have another baby.  What they do not realize is that I still 2.5 years later can not think about it yet.  Until someone goes through this or someone has watched someone go through it they do understand the severity of this disease. I could not imagine being so sick not being able to take care of my daughter . I worry about being away from my daughter to be in the hospital on Iv's . And I worry about dying after going through this again.  I always wanted a large family but, HG has robbed my body of this . It is just not fare what we women suffer from to have a baby due to HG giving us a special bond together . Something else people are not aware of is that it comes back with every pregnancy. Just as bad, if not worse . There needs to be much more awareness on this topic on the Dr. Phil show. I applaud women who try again. I am not there yet or do not know if I will  ever be ready to face HG again
 
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April 14, 2007, 5:33 pm PDT

How dare you

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Ok,

 

First of all to all of you who claim to have suffered from HG.  IF it is SO awful (and maybe it is, I don't know) WHY ON EARTH would you keep getting pregnant after delivering a healthy baby?  So many of these posts are "I had HG too, it is so awful, I had it with all 15 of my babies".  Of course I am exagerating, but you get my point.  It apparently wasn't bad enough to dissuade you from doing it again.

 

Second, Allison was not suffering from this disease any longer when she signed the papers....so HG can not be used as an excuse for giving her babies away.  Did ANYONE ELSE on this board griping about the misery of HG place their babies for adoption?  No?  Didn't think so.

 

Third, she kidnapped the children 16 MONTHS later.  So, you are going to tell me that HG made her do that too?

 

Fourth, for all of you spouting the children's "blood right" stay with Allison even though she is obviously unstable, the children were conceived with donor eggs and donor sperm.  SO, if you want to look at it that way Allison is not their "parent" either.  I wonder what the genetic parents would think of this situation if they knew.  Who THEY would want raising these children.

 

Fifth, the adoptive parents are likely not going public because they have nothing to gain by doing so.  They are fighting in a court of law, not the court of public opinion.  They did nothing wrong, why should they have to go on national television and defend themselves?

 

Feel free to keep belly aching about how horrible this "disease" is, I am not saying it's not.  My point is it must not be THAT bad or women would not go through another pg after suffering through it once.  My personal opinion, surprise surprise, is that it is too bad they are only charging her with parental kidnapping.  She should be in prison for life after what she did, but instead she will likely only serve 3 years.  If she gets those children back, it will be a travesty.

UNTIL YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH HYPEREMESIS YOU HAVE NO IDEA JUST HOW SERIOUS IT IT. To say feel free to keep belly aching about how terrible it is has infuriated so many of us. Have you ever vomited 30 times a day for months? Have you ever thrown up blood and bile ??  Did you ever feel so week you could not function for 4-7 months?? So many of us were so excited for Dr. Phil to discuss this disease and all it took was an ignorant comment like yours to take way from the this big step forward.. 

 

I have only been through this once and it is a horrible thing . I had 2 surgeries from the damage to my esophagus and my body is still not right after what I went through. My doctor told me I would have hyperemesis just as bad if not worse next time so I am not going to try again. But, many women were misinformed believing it might not come back. And other women are so strong to put their bodies through this to have another child. And then there is you who questioned the severity!!! when you have NO idea what we all went through. I used to say I would not not wish this on my worst enemy . Well, after reading what you wrote I must say for a moment  I wished you could experience Hyperemesis if only for 1 day so you would not be so ignorant about our suffering and know just what strong women we truly are!!!

 
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April 15, 2007, 9:58 am PDT

A person's life is changed forever

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I want to first thank the Dr Phil show for getting the word out about HG. I have had 3 pregnancy with it and I have 1 living child to show for it. I am going to tell a little of my story - I know there is a lot of stories on here - but feel very strong about this and getting the word out. It also is great to tell and talk about my story its healing for me. I will always have the pain and sadness of all of this- but it does help to tell of it. I was 25 years old when I became pregnant and thrilled as more. Then 2 - 3 weeks later I started with the non stop vomiting. My doctor and nurse told me to try this and that diet - and do this and not that. I started out going for IVs 2 - 3 times a week - either a 3 - 4 hour visit or a over night stay. My veins are hard to find - so I was sent home with hep-locs so I could keep the IVs in and not get poked more than need be.. From there I had 2 different pic-lines in my arms - and after awhile I had a central line put into my chest. I was put on every kind of medicine they could think of - but nothing worked. I had to switch to a specialty doctor and hospital that was over 40 minutes from my home, family and friends. To add to the depression of having HG - it was also the holiday season - winter - snow - distance - my dad turned 60 years old - loneness and thinking that everyone else thought you had lost your mind. I did lots of crying those months. I had dangerous low potassium and was hospitalize for that. I was put on TPN - Total Prenatal Nutr. - through the central line and had to check my blood sugar at 4 times a day. I was on that 12 hours a day at home. I lost a total of over 30 pounds. In April I got air into my central line - thank god - my husband was home and has asthma - so he was trying to help me on the way to the ER -- where I was rush by Ambulance with a doctor and nurse to the specialty hospital. Where I had 5 different doctors there for me and my baby - I was put through test after test and on full oxygen and in the ICU for a night. I gave birth to a healthy baby girl in July. The other 2 pregnancy -1999 and 2000, I was just as sick - and talked to the doctors before we even tried to get pregnant and they couldnt say one way or another if it would happen again or not. We so badly wanted a bigger family we had to try more-- which a lot of our family and friends didnt agree and didnt come around much. I was over 10 weeks with both of the pregnancy and they were once again all over the holiday months - and during winter, plus now we had a child to worry about. The 1st one - I could not handle being away from my daughter - I got to see her 2 times a week - if I was lucky and my husband couldnt come by as much with a daughter a home. I was very depress and felt very alone, I couldnt handle it, they had me talk with someone to be sure I knew what I was talking about - wanting to end the pregnancy - I knew what they wanted to hear so they ever gave me any problems. I was on TPN again with that. The next pregnancy the doctors told me in plain English that it could be deadly for me and / or the baby - or I could come out of it not healthy - so that pregnancy was ended per the doctor. I was one TPN with that one also.. Only after they tried other things - because they had found out that TPN was not healthy. I was on a nose feeding tube at home 24 hours a day - I was on steroids - but the only amount that helped me was not a healthy amount. It was like everything we tried that worked was going to harm me and my baby.. One ate away at my bones and one ate away at my muscle.. There was no choice - as my husband reminds me to this day. But to this day - I am thankful for my daughter -- but it hurts to know she is alone. We have looked into adoption - and working on it -- but it is a lot harder then people let on -- I know why people dont do it and why there are so many kids in foster care -- it is very sad to think of that. But that is a whole other story. I do have my daughter -- but I do feel so robbed of my pregnancy - the morning sickness - and pregnant belly - I never even really felt her move or kick. I since have remorse - I see pregnant women and family with lots of kids and I get so mad - life is so unfair.. I know there are still people out there that think it was in my head and I could have done something. HG is not heard of much - and you really do feel so alone going through it -- it needs more attention and needs to be talked about so those of us who dealt with it can get help and heal more I will never be completely heal - but it does help.. Thanks again for talking of it.. Anyone going through it needs to know they are not alone and there are others. Its not in their minds - it is real.. I only wish I could have seen this show and heard about all this ahead of time and had support for myself and for my husband - more information need to be out there Support is something we all need - what I wouldnt have done for someone to come and visit me in the hospital all those times just to sit in the room with me..   As for the mom in this show -- I am torn on what should happen -- with her and kids --  I see it from someone who had HG and I see it from someone who wants to adopt and know people who have..  But HG does change a person's life forever...

I like you look at pregnant women and am saddened and think how unfair it is for us with HG. I am somewhat bitter inside after suffering with this. My heart aches to have a healthy pregnancy .  We are are robbed that feeling of excitement as our bellies grow as we are stuck in bed with Iv's,Pic lines and feeding tubes and wondering if we will survive this.  i have to agree with you that our lives are changed forever. I am not the same person I was before HG.

 

Best of luck adopting a a baby!!!.

 
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April 15, 2007, 10:03 am PDT

Thank you

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Hello all of you . . . ! Wow, that person who attacked all of you and Allison. Sometimes this world is scary.

I have never suffered hyperemesis and never well. Because I choose not to become pregnant in this lifetime. I have female issues [one ovary and cysts on the remaining one and decided, as a single woman in her 40s and overweight; my children will come to me via adoption.

Nevertheless, I have had stomach flu [recently and spent three days feeling like you dear, strong individuals feel for months! I prayed, begged and thought about death or a coma for all three days, as I rolled around the floor and didn't think I'd survive! For nine months or one more day would've had me out of my mind even more! Thus, no, I could never agree that's it's easy to get through hyperemesis; or even morning sickness for three months! [my best friend had three months of morning sickness and I thought she was going to vomit the child up!

As the woman on Dr. Phil said -- After what I just went through for only three days; I would think I'd consider and pray for the ending of the pregnancy. I have no threshold for that kind of pain. I've also had food poisoning about three times!!! To the person who put you all down with her post "oh please" . . . I don't wish ill on anyone, but yeah, she should try food poisoning or stomach flu for even a day or two . . . and then tell us how she feels?!

May peace be there for all of you . . . and Allison and her twins. And the custodial parents.

Love and Light,
Angela Theresa

Thank you for caring and best of luck bringing a child into your life via adoption!

 
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April 16, 2007, 7:38 am PDT

PLEASE DO ANOTHER SHOW ON HG

Dr. Phil , 

         Please do another show devoted entirely to HYPEREMESESIS. As you can see there was a large response from us women who suffered with this terrible disease.  Please bring back Kimber from the HER foundation to educate those suffering, those who have suffered ,those who posted hurtful remarks and those who are unaware of this horrible disease we face to have a child.

 
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April 18, 2007, 11:25 am PDT

Your walk for HG

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Dear Dr. Phil,

I am writing to you, like all these other women, to tell parts of my story in the hopes of getting some real help. We have all suffered with a pain that I can only describe as heart shattering. I have had three experiences with HG, none successful. No words could possibly explain the overwhelming saddness I have felt trying to heal. There is an emptiness that will never truly heal as I accept the fact that I am terrified to ever try again.
Though I have many memories from the illness, I will tell the ones that stand out in my mind with such vividness that my heart aches now even two years after my last attempt.
I believe with everything in me that I would be dead now had I kept on trying.
The most painful memory stands out with my third attempt. I could not make it past 5 months. I lost 46 pounds. I was throwing up blood and bile at least 30 times a day, and for the last few weeks had blood not just trickling from my nose in nosebleeds, but spraying out violently as I wretched. All day and night.
At first I was suffering at home, trying several medications. None worked, not even the one I had to administer myself by needle into my leg and arm muscle. I was weak, unable to even think about eating or drinking even a sip of water, and unable to get a handle on any of it. I was on 4 medications in hospital. They managed to get my symptoms under control at about 3 months for 2 days and told me I was fine and should go home. The only reason I was fine was because I had a chemical soup being fed to me through I.V. So when they took me off everything, all at once, after only 2 days of peace... of course a few hours after being removed from medication, I was even more violently ill than when I had originally gone in to hospital. They could not get me stable again.
I would dream about swimming through a sea of orange juice when I could manage to fall asleep at all... I guess my body was so dehydrated that it started telling me I needed vitamins, liquids, nutrition.
They hooked me up so I could hear my baby's heartbeat, and it was beautiful. I felt such a saddness knowing that with the way things were going I wouldn't make it and knowing I would have to choose. I can still hear my baby's heartbeat now. I will never forget it.
One afternoon, I went to the washroom to splash some water on my face, got dizzy, sat on the toilet to stabilize myself, and woke up in the bathtub beside me. I rang the call button, and nobody came. So I pulled myself out and crawled to my bed on my hands and knees, crying and dragging the IV machine behind me, too tired to walk and no energy to stand, I sat on the floor by my bed and waited for someone to come, and cried. I called my mother and told her I knew I was dying and asked her to help me. The helplessness she must have felt.
At this point, I couldn't sleep because the motion in my mind from my dreams would send me into fits of wretching for hours.
I ended up terminating my pregnancy out of what I thought was necessity to save my own life due to lack of proper resources.  After leaving the hospital in wheelchair, I concentrated on physical recovery. It took a week and a half before I could really even swallow water, or anything else because of the pain, due to rips in my esophagus and lesions and tears in my throat lining. Even a full year later I developed problems with my gallbladder.. I've since learned is due to the illness.
The second attempt left it's own set of scars that fuels me now to do something about the injustice these sufferers were, and are still faced with. I was sent a psychiatrist while in hospital with my second attempt who would wait outside my bathroom door while I wretched to tell me I was overreacting. I was just pregnant, and that I must not want my baby. It makes me sick to think about. How could the medical profession that I came to for help kick me so hard while I was down? I even had a nurse angry with me for throwing up after she'd given me an entire dose of gravol through I.V. (Gravol made me feel even sicker... and I told them that, but surprise, they didn't believe me).
I far from received adequate care and resent being told I didnt want my children. Having a doctor pat your leg and tell you you are a wasting use of the hospitals beds as "there are a lot of other people much sicker than you dear", made me feel horribly alone. As one Emergency ward doc put it after observing me for a total of 5 minutes and taking no blood and conducting no tests.
It's taken me two years to be able to talk about it. Now I have vowed to myself that I will do whatever I have to do to spread the word and help as many women suffering with this illness as I can.
On June 24th of this year me and best friend will be walk/running from London to Toronto, Ontario, ending at Sick Kids hospital where a helpline is located for women suffering and their families. This is all to raise money and donate it to HG research. It will take 6 days, 50 kms per day, 5 kms per hour for 10 hours a day. We are calling it 'The Journey of Hope - to help pave the way for HG sufferers and their children.' We know its not as far as some others have gone for other illnesses, but it is as much as time will allow for now. I would walk around the world and back to find a cure to end this needless suffering. That will be followed by a fundraising dinner in which I am trying to gather as many guests as possible. Dr. Phil.. would you like to come? :)
I thank the HER foundation with everything in my being because after losing 3 children, it was the only place I could find that told me, without a doubt, I am not alone. There are no words that can express my gratitude. There are others. It is not in my head, and I did and do want my children, and I pray that I have even a quarter of the strength as Anne Marie and her co-founders have, so I too will be able to fight right along side them to help even just one woman.
Thank you Dr. Phil for any help you may give us. Please help separate fact from fiction with this illness once and for all... We need to be told by a medical professional that it is not just a figment of our imaginations, because the pain is so real it is absolutely unimaginable.

Let me just start by saying it saddened me to hear your story. As a one time 18 month HG sufferer I sit hear and cry reading other stories. Hyperemesis was the most horrible thing I had to face . It has helped me to read these posts as at the time I never heard of it and had no one that had gone through it. I vomited 25-30 times a day . No meds calmed it.I truly believed I was dying.  But, I was lucky it shut off after 18 weeks and I did have a successful pregnancy. I cant begin to imagine having it past 18 weeks ,  going through it more than once and having no success with the pregnancy. What you faced was so  was horrible and I am glad you are able to talk about it now . And. that you found HER foundation. I did not know about it until after I had my daughter but it is a place to go now were they truly understand HYPEREMESIS . I found KIMBER a few months ago and it has helped to know I was not alone And they have created something wonderful for us and that is HOPE.. And the walk you are doing is soooo WONDERFUL!!!  So few people understand this and we have to fight to have it discussed more.  Everyone is asked if they won a large lottery what would they do with it. My answer is give it for Hyperemesis research , give money for mothers for adoption or surrogacy  which most can not afford . This way they would not have to put there bodies at risk to have the baby their heart desires. We are moving foreword with awareness and I pray for a cure!!!
 
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April 18, 2007, 11:27 am PDT

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I would love to be able to read the transcripts of the future court proceedings.
me too!
 
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April 19, 2007, 7:57 pm PDT

Yes, I have written to her

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I try and write her once a week...does anyone else?

I HAD SENT OUT MY FIRST LETTER TO HER 2 DAYS AGO AND PLAN TO SEND ONE EVERY WEEK TO SHOW MY SUPPORT.  HG TAKES A HORRIBLE TOLL ON THE BODY.  SHE DESERVES HER BABIES!!  HAVE YOU HEARD BACK FROM HER? 

 

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