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April 13, 2007, 6:34 am PDT

Is Allison the BIOLOGICAL mother of the kids?

Dr Phil,

I love ya Man but I think you either agreed not to ask some key questions or ya just dropped the ball. 

 

Did you think to ask Allison if she is biologically related to these kids?  If she became pregnant via invitro after TWO PLUS YEARS of treatment at the age of 47+ the liklihood that she was able to use her own eggs to conceive these kids is pretty low.  She indeed gave birth to them but it doesn't mean she is the biological natural parent of these kids.  Decisions on their future needs to be made using the full uinderstanding of the whole truth.  If she is not biologically related to them then consideration needs to be made on whether or not giving birth to them alone supercedes the life they have had for 20 months with their adoptive parents. 

 

Secondly, it has been reported that she spent her life savings (400K) on legal assistance after placement to have the adoption overturned.  With that kind of financial where with all, did you think to ask her WHY she didn't hire round the clock nanny's and nurses?  She was formally a big shot  Engineer at Lockheed... surely she knows about in home 24 hour Nannies???  Her reasoning for placing them was she wasn't able to care for them because she was so sick but she didn't even THINK to hire a 5-600 dollar a week Nanny?  She obviously had significant financial assets that could have secured round the clock care for both her and the kids.  That just does NOT make sense.

 

Lastly, why were the kids released from the hospital with an obviously gravely ill post ceserean Mother of mulitples?  Was there any social service involvement before she left their care?  How did she convince the Hosptial staff that she was able to care for the kids in her depleted near death condition? 

 

Kurtisgirl

 

 
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April 13, 2007, 6:44 am PDT

04/12 Twin Tug of War

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Funny thing about children... they grow, they begin to question, they seek answers. The twins, their mothers illness is truly horrible, but in a caring society should not have caused the loss of her children but caused someone to help. There are many isolated who have no immediate family to step in and help and are not blessed with the means to 'hire' help... sad  To think that there is the possibility that people desperate for there own would take her babies rather then offer to help her 'and' her children in her moment of weakness.... sad

There is no paper, signed or not (signed under duress or influence of any kind should not be considered valid) that change the fact that the children have rights. They have an undeniable right to family, they have a blood right and no court decision will change the fact that they are their mother's children and she is their mother. That clearly she loves her children and does not want to be separated from them. Eventually the twins will seek their own answers, no matter what any court decides, they will discover their mother's plight and desperate attempt to be with them.... what can you imagine they will think of the people who call themselves their parents when they learn truth?

What would anyone think knowing that they were basically stolen from a loving mother?

I pray this mother is released, there is family and others who help her to achieve the return of her children. Justice would be allowing the twins to go home. 

 

And if a court decides it is just to allow the children to not be returned, at the very least their mother has given them a great gift... when they grow and question and seek their answers they will learn how brave their mothers was, what she was willing to risk to be with them, they will never wonder why their mother gave them away or if they were wanted, loved.  

 

It happens more often then it should. I know three mothers who have lost their children because of illness. One had appendix surgery with complications by the time she was released her daughters were in another state and she no longer had legal custody. One because of problems from being diabetic, she struggled too long to remain home, was seriously ill and when she was able to return home she her sons were gone, she was evicted from her home,  she lost her legal attempts for their return. One was in an accident, she was hospitalized for months, her children were taken from the person they were left with and went from foster care to adoption. I saw that court case, she was alone with no legal representative and pleaded for help. She did not understand, she did nothing wrong. She lost. She was allowed one visit before they were adopted.

 

You said "There is no paper, signed or not (signed under duress or influence of any kind should not be considered valid) that change the fact that the children have rights. They have an undeniable right to family, they have a blood right and no court decision will change the fact that they are their mother's children and she is their mother. "

 

How do you know these kids are biologically related to her?  Have you seen or heard of any quote from her where she says she is their bioloical mother?  I have heard her say she gave birth to them and she is their Mother but not that she is a BIOLOGICAL Mother.  She had two plus years of fertility treatements during her 47th year of life and a FIRST time Mother.  What do you think the odds are that HER eggs were used during the invitro that brought these kids into being?

 

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