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April 24, 2007, 7:36 pm PDT

04/16 The Dr. Phil House: Saving Grace, Part 2

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We had a similar situation in my family. It involved a trusted Uncle. The victum was 5yrs old at the time. She told her parents within 4hrs after the abuse. My niece, the victim's Mother, called the athorities immediately. We were told to have no further communications with the perp or his spouse.(Who is my sister). The child went through many interviews with the proper authorities, videos taken of her version of what happened, and finally criminal charges were brought against him. Over a year later this was brought to trial. Two days of court and the third day waiting for a jury of our peers to reach their verdict. NOT GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT was their verdict. The perp is home free and we have had no contact with my sister or her husband since. We know he's guilty and my sister sleeps with him every night. I don't understand how she can support him? The jury was not allowed to hear testomony of other questionable instances. Do our courts protect the victims or hide the perps?  Signed, Totally Disgusted
This message truly angers me. Were in the world did they come up with that verdict? believe this if he did this 1ce he will do it agan. He will be caught
 
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April 24, 2007, 7:48 pm PDT

04/16 The Dr. Phil House: Saving Grace, Part 2

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A couple of posts back they wondered why Todd had not gotten over his dumbness in two years.

 

One of the things Cat said was -that when she and Todd are intimate- she sees Todd as his Dad and it makes it very hard for her.  How big a leap is it before she is mad at Todd and doesn't know why?

 

She is a victim here too and I don't blame her one bit for whatever she feels.  She has issues to work on that's all.

 

Her issues unfortunately for Todd impact him and his recovery.  He is continually being re-injured and reminded that he has to stand in for his Dad when it's time for the consequences.  He can't get away from the fact that he is part of -those people-.  Anne and Steve are irresponsible and are so far gone they can't be reached in many ways.  Todd is available.

 

Put yourself in Todd's shoes.  His parents have turned on him.  His daughter is injured (and he gets it)  His parents don't step up and take the responsibility.  His wife looks at him and sees his father.  The guilt and shame are horrible.  Everyone including this board has unloaded on the guy -Why he isn't quite acting healthy enough for us, we see the answer, why doesn't he?

 

You can't expect functional at the levels your asking when everytime he asks for help everyone in his life kicks him.  We're not even in his life, we are the Universe and we want compassion when we are hurting and alone but when this man appears we judge him and kick him and say -not good enough.

 

It's up to us.  I know if I were him I would be hurting and would need compassion.  And so does Cat, she hasn't handled this perfectly but she sure did her best.  And when they know better they will do better.  They would have loved our support.  Like Oprah with her father.  They don't need our support to get well,. . . . it just would have been nice. 

 

Maybe when we were hurting and tried our best no one was ever there for us and we recreate what was done to us.  I don't know why we are so critical.  Maybe it's just like everyone else we realize Steve won't get it- Anne won't get it- Todd seems to get it- jump on Todd.

 

Unless we are the person that is unjustly being jumped on and kicked we just can't understand it and have compassion.   I've considered the fact that maybe it's US that doesn't get what's going on here.

 

What I learned from Oprah is to draw my lines through people's names with a very thin line and not a big fat felt tip marker because there is a lot more love for me that way.  Or we can judge and hate people while they are trying their best- after all, isn't that what we got when we tried our best?  There was always someone there to point our mistakes. 

 

Things won't change until we do.

First of all I saw this show as well, and it really shock me when she said she see his father in him. I really don't see how because his father has all that red hair, and look like a molester. Todd don't. I don't blame her for her feelings neither, but  her husband is in pain as well. They should stick togather in this. The father does not seem to get a clue of his wrong doings to this child. His wife is just as dumb. There is no way I would except this in any man. He would be out the door. This is hard for Todd, but he has to look at his own family first, and I feel he is. I can't belive they are looking at the grandmother even being back in this child life. How can some 1 love a man so much that they can lay next to him after such a thing? I know we should forgive but this man said it made him feel young again ( Lord Jesus!) It makes me wonder how long has he felt this way about girls (children) he is a sick man. neither would never see my child again
 
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April 24, 2007, 7:51 pm PDT

04/16 The Dr. Phil House: Saving Grace, Part 2

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I really don't blame the parents for not letting the grandparents have the child in their possession. The trust would be almost impossible to get back. The grandfather has not come to terms with what he did and does not accept responsibility.
I would not care what terms he came to. He would never be around her again. I believe he would do it to some child again. Just look at him
 
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April 26, 2007, 8:41 pm PDT

04/26 Obsessive Love

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Dear Dr. Phil, 

 

"Jeffery and Jennifer" is an extreme case with personal safety issues for Jennifer and her children.  Jeffery is Borerline Personality, Obsessive/Compulsive, Narcisstic all three are components of a Sociopath.  He will escalate to murder if left without intervention.  The coward will kill Jennifer then himself.  What about the children they have no choice in any of this?  Why did Jennifter ignore all the advise of friends and family to leave?  She is a victim but not an innocent victim. 

 

Please Dr. Phil explain to the audiance how "Safe Place Shelters" located in most cities in America would help Jennifer if she went to them and presented all her information.

 

Thank You!

 

Dennis, Austin Texas

Well I have not seen the show YET! I will tonight @ 12:45, but from what I've been reading he is insecure with the cheating and pictures she has displayed. He has a reason to be like he is, but....not to that extreem. I believe she brought all this on herself with the things she has done, but instead of him acting so stupid he should've left her. Yes the beatings are next so she better get out of it before that happens. He is sick! there is no way I could love a person that much to stay in mess like that. Or should I say fear a MAN that much. I know women get themselves condition  to mess to the point they fear the man, but she might believe with all she has done to this man that she is stuck to deal with what ever he dish out to her. What other reason is she sticking around? It can't be love, because if that was so why would she cheat? i think thia marriage is over. The trust is gone, and there is to much tention in it.
 
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April 26, 2007, 8:43 pm PDT

04/26 Obsessive Love

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After watching the show it is very clear their marrige needs help if that is still possible.

Jeff is desperatly seeking her love and affection but she is unwilling to budge because of his over reactive behavoir or maybe she simply does not Love him. There is a serious breakdown in trust here!

She is NOT helping the matter by communicating outside the marrige, this is only fueling his rage. And if she wants a resolution for this then she needs to stop giving him a reason for his over reactive behavoir.

They both need to be honest and fair with each other, nobody deserves to know their partner in life is finding Love outside their marrage.

If he still Loves her and she does not Love him then they need to be honest with each other and make a amical resolution.

 

I agree to this statement.
 
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April 26, 2007, 8:46 pm PDT

04/26 Obsessive Love

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 I have been where jen is and know how it can kill your spirit and your will. I never cheated on my husband, He was the one how liked the young girls but yet i was the one who was locked in a basement for almost a month because I asked for a divorce. So to some of you who feel jen or any women has this kind of treatment comming,, Maybe you should talk to Dr, Phil
LOCK IN THE BASEMENT? OMG WHAT KIND OF MEN ARE YALL MARRYING? YOU WANTED A DIVORCE AND HE LOCK YOU IN THE BASEMENT? i DO NOT FEEL NO WOMAN DESERVE MISTREATMENT OF NO KIND, BUT IF YOUR GOING TO BE OUT THERE CHEATING EXPECT ANYTHING. THIS WORLD IS CRAZY, AND THE PEOPLE IN IT IS CRAZY. I HAVE A QUETION FOR YOU. DID HE PUT CHAINS ON YOU AS WELL?  LORD I'VE NEVER READ SUCH MESS
 
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April 26, 2007, 8:48 pm PDT

04/26 Obsessive Love

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OMG! are you sure you didnt have my ex on the show?? in the latter years of my first marriage, my then-husband was just about as bad. i think the worse part was when he broke into my email and read everyone of them. i felt raped...he had raped the very essence of me. i no longer had a right to my own thoughts or feelings. i was being accused of everything...but did nothing to cause the accusations. at one point, i thought about actually following through with what i had been accused of...i was getting in trouble for it anyway so i may as well get the fun out of doing whatever.

 

many things are said about the bad side of being online while you are married but in my case, it was liberating. i found i wasnt as boring and ugly as i felt. this gave me a place to escape and breathe. i found the believe in myself and the strength to do what i had needed (and wanted) to do for a long time coming. i got divorced.

 

 

 

 

U GO GIRL LOL
 
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April 26, 2007, 9:36 pm PDT

huh?

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Just remember that you do not deserve this treatment.  When men/or women do these types of things to their long time husbands or wives, it is a totally selfish act.  They are thinking of themselves only.  They want to revert back to their twenties and act like they have no responsibilities any longer.  It is extremely hurtful, and for you, you are left with the responsibilities and the pieces to pick up alone.  It will take you time, but if you can get yourself some counseling it could help you a lot.  You can have someone to talk to, figure out what you're going to do with the rest of your life, and possibly he could go with you also.  He could change his mind, which I am sure you might want at this point, but as time goes on, you may not want him anymore.  Just take care of yourself and your kids, because they are hurting also.  He isn't doing that to you because you aren't good enough, or beautiful enough, or smart enough.  He is doing it because he has insecurities and doesn't know how else to deal with them.  Many men do this at his age.  My husband did, and has been gone 11 months now.  I've waited, and hoped and he hasn't come back yet.  I am ready to move forward with my life, because I am now realizing sitting on "hold", is tearing me apart emotionally.  I cannot live this way any longer.  I hope you can get the strength to pull your bootstraps up, and do what you have to do for yourself and your kids.  Move forward and if he changes his mind, great, but if not, you'll have already taken the steps to moving forward, instead of not doing anything at all.  Take care of yourself. 
Wait he been gone 11 months, and your waiting? no she does not deserve this treatment. Most men don't wait to revert back to youth they just get a scratch, and want it taken care of. We as women always take on the RESONSIBILTY when they decide they want to do what thet do best. CHEAT! I agree she needs to take care of herself, and those kids. It can be hurtful to be done in such away. Change his mind about what? he shouldn't have that right. he married her. He should act as if he is married. You right she may not want him any more, and it would be good if she don't. I pray you pull yourself together. Cause I can only bet yours is cheating. Take your on advice suga. Cause I can bet he's not on hold for you.  Take care of your self as well. You move forward as well. seem like he has. Get a man and watch how he acts
 
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April 26, 2007, 9:43 pm PDT

Divorce

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Just remember that you do not deserve this treatment.  When men/or women do these types of things to their long time husbands or wives, it is a totally selfish act.  They are thinking of themselves only.  They want to revert back to their twenties and act like they have no responsibilities any longer.  It is extremely hurtful, and for you, you are left with the responsibilities and the pieces to pick up alone.  It will take you time, but if you can get yourself some counseling it could help you a lot.  You can have someone to talk to, figure out what you're going to do with the rest of your life, and possibly he could go with you also.  He could change his mind, which I am sure you might want at this point, but as time goes on, you may not want him anymore.  Just take care of yourself and your kids, because they are hurting also.  He isn't doing that to you because you aren't good enough, or beautiful enough, or smart enough.  He is doing it because he has insecurities and doesn't know how else to deal with them.  Many men do this at his age.  My husband did, and has been gone 11 months now.  I've waited, and hoped and he hasn't come back yet.  I am ready to move forward with my life, because I am now realizing sitting on "hold", is tearing me apart emotionally.  I cannot live this way any longer.  I hope you can get the strength to pull your bootstraps up, and do what you have to do for yourself and your kids.  Move forward and if he changes his mind, great, but if not, you'll have already taken the steps to moving forward, instead of not doing anything at all.  Take care of yourself. 
why is it always a mid life summin when it comes down to men cheating, and what is it for a woman who does it? are we to just hang in there and let him have it by cheating? come on now please! men cheat because they want to simple!!!!!! A woman who sits and wait for a man to go threw some kind of issue will be sitting for a long time, because they all got issues. It's called PENIS HAPPY!!  If they feel they can put it in summin they will married or not. I've been married 14 yrs, and we been togather for 19. it has not been all roses. We all do what we want to do. It not because some 1 is not doing this or that
 
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May 4, 2007, 5:10 pm PDT

O really!

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   I dont blame her for cheating.What a loser!
Well I will not say all that because I never heard how he was with her before she cheated on him. Was he nice? from what I seen on the 1st show he became this way due to her cheating. Now that's no excuse for his behavior.  I would leave him, but she is the reason he is like he is. She not only cheated but she kept trying to have affairs. The marriage is over. I do not believe it can be saved.
 

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