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September 5, 2007, 8:46 pm PDT

Yeah.

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DID YOU NOTE THAT THE ONE MAN WHO WAS AT THE WHOLE PROBLEM WAS NOT THERE?
Seriously, do you think Dr. Phil would be so confident that  there was no abuse going on here if  the man at the "root" of the problem weren't completely cleared? It obviously wasn't an issue with Dr. Phil, so I'm not too worried.  Besides, how do you know the father wasn't at home? They have like nine kids, he's probably with his children.  It would be messed up of the parents if they just left their kids alone while going to defend themselves against abuse charges by a madwoman.  It makes perfect sense to me that the dad would be with the younger children.  Oh, and Christy is a complete psycho.
 
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September 10, 2007, 12:37 pm PDT

Are you kidding me??

If you're going to sit up on stage, in front of people, and proudly announce that you enjoy and intend to drive dangerously and put people's lives at risk no matter what, that should be criminal! You should get your license suspended for that! Also, I don't get what the mother's problem was taking the stupid phone away, or calling the company and having the text option removed.  I don't know of a company where that isn't an option, and then that eliminates the text problem.  However... to Chelsea's mom.... TAKE THE PHONE AWAY! After a "few" accidents months after getting her permit, it wouldn't even be an issue that'd go so far as to end up on Dr. Phil! The phone would've been under the back tire of MY car! I'd say "Hey, Chelsea, here's a driving lesson for ya!" *crush* There, end of problem!  Another solution would be to make her pick between the car and the phone.

 
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October 11, 2007, 11:25 am PDT

06/07 Backstabbing Sisters

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Yes, Christy made some mistakes like scaring her nieces. Yes, she probably bent the truth.  Yes, Dr. Phil found her very unpleasant. Wouldn't you be messed up if you grew up in such dysfunction and abuse? She tried to get her family help and was invalidated and mocked at every turn. To an abuse survivor, it's maddening.

 

Here's what I believe: Christy and her brother were indeed abused. Either Stacy was spared or she was abused and is in denial (many victims convince themselves that their childhoods were normal as a survival mechanism). If Stacy or her kids were abused, it is ABSOLUTELY possible that out of deeply ingrained shame they might stick to the same denial and fool the police and DHS. My sister and I were two such children. We really were like "the boy called it."  (My jaw dropped when Dr. Phil told Christy, "Well the police investigated it and they were exonerated, so it didn't happen."--I'm paraphrasing)  If I may borrow a Phil-ism, Dr. Phil, If you think a half-a**ed police investigation means parents are innocent, if you don't believe that this happens every day, then you need to go back to school. After my parents were finally caught, our injuries photographed and documented in the ER, we were placed back in the home that very night because there were no vacant foster homes. We had to get family counseling where my parents eventually admitted and apologized. Fifteen years later, my dad waves a letter of exoneration in our faces.

 

Where are the polygraph answers to THESE questions? Was Christy really horse whipped by her mom? Were she and her siblings abused and tortured while Stacy was spared? Also disappointing, Dr. Phil zoned in on the couple of times that Christy answered deceptively, but never addressed the DISTURBINGLY TRUE answers that she gave.

 

 

You know, just because someone's answers are "disturbingly true" doesn't mean they really ARE true, it just means the person being questioned believes what they are saying.  Maybe Christy was abused.  What's that got to do with anything other than offer a possible explanation for her crusade to destroy a family (there's a lot of jealousy and resentment there too)?

 

You can pick your jaw up.  Had you listened beyond that, and watched the show in it's entirety, and seen the previous show, it wasn't just a police investigation that exonerated these people, it was a multitude of many, repeated investigations by several different authorities and organizations and law enforcement.  Not to mention Christy's inability to accept the fact she even MIGHT POSSIBLY be wrong about ANYTHING.  You can't reason with someone who believes they are omnipotent! I believe Christy believes Christy, and that's about it.

 

 

 
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October 11, 2007, 3:29 pm PDT

10/11 Munchausen Mom

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Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) is a psychological disorder characterized by pervasive instability in moods, interpersonal relationships, self-image, and behavior.  This instability often disrupts family and work life, long-term planning, and the individual's sense of self-identity. 

 

While less known than schizophrenia or bipolar disorder (manic-depressive illness), BPD is more common, affecting 2% of adults (1-33), mostly females.  Some of my favorite books that provide a great introduction and insight are:

 

 

Emotional Blackmail:  When the People in Your Life Use Fear, Obligation and Guilt to Manipulate You by Susan Forward OR Why is it Always About You?  The Seven Deadly Sins of Narcissism by Sandy Hotchkiss

 

Sickened:  The Memoir of a Munchausen by Proxy Childhood by Julie Gregory OR The Psychology of Female Violence:  Crimes Against the Body by Anna Motz MAYBE Whatever Mother Says by Wensley Clarkson

 

Understanding the Borderline (Parent) Mother:  Helping Her Children Transcend the Intense, Unpredictable and Volatile Relationship by Christine Ann Lawson 

 

Stop Walking on Eggshells:  Taking Your Life Back...by Paul Mason and Randi Kreger OR Surviving a Borderline Parent:  How to Heal Your Childhood Wounds & Build Trust, Boundaries and Self-Esteem by Kimberlee Roth and Freda Friedman

 

How to Journal for Therapy:

http://arar.essortment.com/therapyjournali_repu.htm 

 

 

Some of the story is typical:  early family conflicts, abusive relationships, feelings of insecurity contributing to destructive behaviors such as cruelty, manipulations, rage attacks, revenge, promiscuity, addictions, self-abuse, and eating disorders.  The extreme behaviors of BPD constitute the high drama in the stories of those who endure its ravages.

 

There are relationships, marriages and families that are so destructive the only option is for a person to get out.  Get out with the little bit of sanity you may have remaining.  As painful as it may be, make a promise to yourself to leave.  Leave so you can begin a life of healing and recovery.  Leave so you can learn how to live a joyful, peaceful, supportive and fulfilling life.

 

 

Hope it helps!

 

Not necessarily disagreeing... you're dead on about everything concerning BPD.  I know, because I suffer from it... and others have suffered for my, I dunno what to call it... deformity works for me.  It's a nightmare to be afflicted with this disorder, especially because most people have no idea what's wrong with them.  Your emotions become your rationale, your feelings twist reality so that you see what you feel you should (if that makes sense).  The aggression, the self-loathing, the addictions, the inability to connect with other humans... it's just horrific.  It IS treatable, but you really really have to want help, and admitting you need it in the first place is so indescribably difficult I can't even explain.  Just offering a perspective from the other side (forgive me if you also suffer from this, it just seemed like you survived someone with BPD), maybe letting people understand how it can twist someone so badly that they injure their children could shed some light on this. 

 

If anyone's wondering (or read this far!) I have sought help and I'm being treated with medication and couseling, and my life has done a Dr.Phil-worthy 180*.  Seeing this show was painful; I hate being able to understand such a messed up frame of mind.  Hey, if it helps anyone else, I guess that's okay with me.  Thanks for the insight, and the information sources!

 
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February 14, 2008, 9:29 am PST

So much for custody!

LOL! That's hilarious!

 

I love how Matt refused to talk about his health, on the advice of a lawyer, because it might jeapordize his custody case...

 

...and then said his kids were dead to him and he didn't care if he saw them again.  I'd say his custody case is over now, lol!

 

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