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March 15, 2008, 11:27 am PDT

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I listened to a little bit of her crap and just think that after that many men in her life and all the failed marriages the only common denominator is her. Call it a disease or a disorder or just a problem but quit ruining peoples lives and quit trying to make people think you are the victim. It is only you that causes these issues in your own life. JUST GIVE UP and no more people will get hurt. It is not the end of the world to be single. I have been single for 3 years after a 9 year marriage and I was cheated on several times by my wife. I have never been more happy and now realize that happiness is an emotion that can only come from you. No one can ever "make" you happy. Men are being hurt all over this world because of women like her and to them it is just a problem that they need to work on..blah, blah, blah. If you want men to act like men then stop acting like a highschool girl at a party with a list hidden in her jewelry box of how many guys you bagged, and start acting like a woman whom should be the foundation of love and stability that the family structure is missing so badly in modern times. If you want to know where society has went wrong it is with women like this. Disorder...Please, just give up your childhood and you will be fine.
 
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March 16, 2008, 4:07 pm PDT

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Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) is a psychological disorder characterized by pervasive instability in self-image, behavior, moods, and interpersonal relationships.  This instability often disrupts family and work life, long-term planning, and the individual's sense of self-identity. 

 

While less known than schizophrenia or bipolar disorder (manic-depressive illness), BPD is more common, affecting 2% of adults (1-33), mostly females.  Some of my favorite books that provide a great introduction and insight are:

 

 

Emotional Blackmail:  When the People in Your Life Use Fear, Obligation and Guilt to Manipulate You by Susan Forward AND Why is it Always About You?  The Seven Deadly Sins of Narcissism by Sandy Hotchkiss

 

Get Me Out of Here:  My Recovery from Borderline Personality Disorder by Rachel Reiland OR Girl Interrupted by Susanna Kaysen OR Stop Walking on Eggshells:  Taking Your Life Back...by Paul Mason and Randi Kreger

 

Understanding the Borderline (Parent) Mother:  Helping Her Children Transcend the Intense, Unpredictable and Volatile Relationship by Christine Ann Lawson OR Surviving a Borderline Parent:  How to Heal Your Childhood Wounds & Build Trust, Boundaries and Self-Esteem by Kimberlee Roth and Freda Friedman OR The Angry Heart:  Overcoming Borderline and Addictive Disorders by Joseph Santoro and Ronald Cohen

 

High Conflict People in Legal Disputes by Bill Eddy OR Divorce Poison:  Protecting the Parent-Child Bond from a Vindictive (Relative) Ex by Richard Warshak

 

How to Journal for Therapy:

http://arar.essortment.com/therapyjournali_repu.htm 

 

Healing Anxiety and Depression (7 types of anxiety and depression) by Daniel Amen and Lisa Routh OR Getting Help:  The Complete and Authoritative Guide to Self-Assessment and Treatment of Mental Health Problems by Jeffrey Wood

 

 

Though harder to spot, emotional abuse is easier to deny.  But just as physical abuse has signposts to mark its presence, emotional abuse, being a systematic attack on one's sense of self, has common traits.  Physical abuse comes in degrees of severity - emotional abuse also runs the gamut of intensity and damage.

 

There are relationships, marriages and families that are so destructive the only option is for a person to get out.  Get out with the little bit of sanity you may have remaining.  Make a promise to yourself to leave.  Leave so you can begin a life of healing and recovery.  Leave so you can learn to live a joyful, peaceful, trusting, supportive, and fulfilling life.

 

Hope it helps!

 

Getting out of a destructive situation is fine but when it is 4 times and counting like the woman on the show it is time for her to quit getting in them.
 
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March 19, 2008, 5:57 am PDT

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Why are men mentally/emotionally abusive? Reading this site-I thought I knew 2 of them--only to find it's a huge problem in todays society.

 Is it a bully thing?

Is it a to be a guy thing? 

Is it a guilt trip thing?   

How do we change todays boys into tomorrows men?

It will take a couple generations to make this change. But I really think that if you want men to act like men, then women need to act like women. The woman's movement to eqaulity in America and the world was and is not a bad thing. But in the process no one thought of what it is really like to grow up a man in this world. You raise your daughters to stand up for their rights and say go to hell men we rule this world, then you want men to treat your daughters with tender loving care and stay home while they pamper them. Well which way do you want it. Be a man or be a woman but you can't have it both ways. For many years it was a mans role to bring home the bacon and a woman would stay home and take care of the children. Over the last 40 years women have fought so hard to change that role and they succeeded. Being pushed around and bullied all of our lives is part of being a man. If you want to reverse it (which is impossible) then moms need to stay home and raise boys and girls to be boys and girls. What most women never realized is how noble and so important the role of homemaker and mother really was and is and how so vital it really was to the America alot of people grew up in. The minds of millions of boys and girls and their roles in society has changed forever. It is no longer little boys role to take care of girls anymore because we grow up knowing that they do not want us to take care of them anymore and if we try to we get called a sexist pig at a very early age. The outside world and the inside instincts are fighting and the world is winning. So congrats on the liberation thing ladies, you should have asked a man how hard it is to live in a man's world before you started it. We never doubted how hard your role was that is why we never fought to be a homemaker in the 60's and 70's.

37 year old male, Tx.

 
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March 19, 2008, 6:04 am PDT

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Children who bully in schools are not just cruel, they are sadistic. They derive pleasure in the suffering they inflict on others. Dawn is a result of schools that allow bullies to prey on the insecure. Schools need to stop bullies now, not say the bullies are going through a period, not say that it's part of growing up.

 

Children who abuse other children, have the mental mindset for growing up to become abusers. Nobody should have to be terrified of going to school. Put these sadists where they belong, in juvenile hall, or a specialized school where they can try to survive with their own. Maybe after being targeted they'll learn a lesson about what they do to others. Monsters don't deserve an education.

What the?? The reason she tears apart mens lives is because she was bullied in school. WOW!! thats right well I am going out to ruin a life because I was bullied in school as well. I believe that bullying is a problem, I have 2 young children in school. But a lot of people get bullied a little here and there and never grow up to inflict pain on others. Why do you give people a free pass? Have you ever heard two wrongs don't make a right. She hurts people because she is a person that hurts people not because when she was 7 someone called her a name.
 
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March 19, 2008, 6:10 am PDT

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For those of you that are judging Dawn because she can't stay in a single relationship, consider this.  Just stop & think of what would you do if you were in Dawn's shoes, & just can't be satisified with just one person. Many people in this world are like that. Perhaps she has some issues that she dealt with her entire life. I'm figuring that she has some sort of illness, stress, a disorder, or some sort of how she's been this way since she was 14. She had a bad childhood, has been suffering abuse from her past relationships, etc. It could be that she has never felt true love by anyone (except for her son), & feels that she shouldn't have to be alone, that's all. I wouldn't exactly call her a "Player", as some of you have put it. I think it's because she's very uncomfortable, has a disorder, or some sort. Unless many of you have been in her shoes, I don't think that it's fair to judge her harshly. I feel sorry for her & I just hope & pray that Dawn gets all the help she needs to overcome these obstacles.
So what. So she can just ruin as many lives as whe wants too and hurt as many people as she feels like it because you feel sorry for her. Well go to the prisons and you can really have a hay day.
 
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March 22, 2008, 8:24 am PDT

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IMO you didn't quite make the connection between the women's liberation movement and men who bully and abuse women. At least nowadays it is not considered O.K. for a man to bully and abuse his wife. Back when "men were men and women were women?" it was considered a man's God given right to control and abuse his wife in any way he saw fit. By the way, I am a stay at home wife and was a stay at home mom to 2 children.
I never said it is OK to abuse anyone.I don't know that it was ever considered a right but many people did not talk about it and just let it happen. I don't even know what you are talking about anyway because I never said anything about abusing women.  I am very proud that there are women like you that take the role of mother as a proper and proud one. I
 
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March 22, 2008, 8:36 am PDT

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Hi,

You sound like a great guy. I agree with you totally about woman doing this, there is no stability anymore.

Anyway, it doesn't sound like you'll be single for long!!!

have a nice day

Thank you so much for understanding what I am talking about. Most women really tore me up on this message board. They did not understand that I meant it is the most important role in the world to raise children. Especially raising young men to know how not to be abused by women. Many men are emotionally abused by their girlfriends and spouses but because there is no physical bruises it is not recognized as real. And in turn we have to raise our daughters to be strong as well and not take abuse either. But either way someone has to be at home to do this. If the man would rather do it and financially it is possible and he has the skills to do so than that is fine too. Most women that replied to me took everything as I said it is OK to hit women and I should have seen it coming. Anytime I say it is good for a family for the mom to stay at home they think that I love to drink beer and beat my wife. Well I don't drink and have never struck a woman. Thank you for agreeing.
 
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March 22, 2008, 8:43 am PDT

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Have you ever had someone put dog food in bubblegum? Have you ever had to wear orthopedic gear and braces to school? She's a victim. I'm sorry you can't see it that way. She hurts people because she's been hurt.  She's afraid to be rejected because all she's known in life is rejection. Can you imagine that? She feels it will only be a matter of time before she's rejected, so she should cut to the chase, and leave the relationship before it happens.

 

She wouldn't be like this if our schools delt with bullies as they are, cruel sadists preying on targets. This is a message to everyone that bullying is not a small issue, it destroys lives. I understand she is hurting other people, but this is because she has not come to terms with all the pain that was unjustly given to her by monsters, who saw her as prey. Do you think it's reasonable to emotionaly abuse and torture someone just because they might be different, or not fit in?

Why do people do this? I never once said it is OK to hurt other people. No I was not a bully. If anything I was bullied. Not to that extent. I am just saying that because you are hurt, it does not give you the right to hurt others. If you take the view that you do than you have to say that everyone that hurts other people have an excuse. Well Adolf Hitler was an abused child, and was bullied by his peers and siblings that he even moved out of his country for awhile.
 
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March 25, 2008, 4:56 am PDT

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What I got out of your original post was that, boys grow up to be abusive men because of the women's liberation movement. Because women are not staying at home and raising thier children. Even though I chose to stay at home, that doesn't mean that ALL women should stay at home. There are a lot of dynamics in play when boys or girls for that matter grow up to be controlling and abusive adults. IMO to say that women shouldn't have careers, should stay in the home, is to take a step backward. If I have misunderstood what you were saying, I apologize.

No need to apologize at all. But I do not think that women staying home to be mothers full time would be a step backwards, I think it would be great for our country. I just meant that when women left the home around the 60's and went to work in masses the children were kind of left behind to fend for themselves in daycare or latchkey kids. The fathers of those days certainly was not mentally or emotionally equipped to help out with the kiddos. I am a dad and I did not realize that raising the children was partly my job until they were about 8 years old..pretty sad, I missed out on some great years. I just thought that making the money was enough. That is why I think that mothers should stay home because sadly alot of dads will never understand how loving, caring and nurturing they can be to their children. I just want the children of the country to have a loving parent at home to cook a good breakfast and be waiting after school when they get home, and to teach young boys and girls how to treat each other with respect and dignity.
 

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