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September 20, 2007, 6:15 pm PDT

09/20 "Change My Face, Change My Race"

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I am a 45 year old Caucasion American woman whom married an Asian man from Hong Kong. Even though my husband came here to the USA when he was 16 years of age, he still hasn't got with the program yet! I have been with him 20 years now and 17 of them married. He was totally different before we eloped, but as soon as those papers were signed, "HE WAS ALL, ME, ME AND ME".....  I always come #8. What I mean by that is, first comes himself, then his job (works in restaurant for family), then come his parents, then come his brother and sisters, then come his nieces and nephews, then comes anyone of Asian descent, then comes his own children (if they were full-blooded Asian they may have come 2nd), then comes me.

He has never physically hit me, but the silence and the verbal and emotional abuse has taken it's toll. I have done everything in my power to try and save our marriage (even went to a marriage councelor for a year "bye myself", he wouldn't even do a single phone-conversation with councelor). I have 3 boys and 1 girl and now my daughter is feeling the effects from it, this is why I must seriously get out!!!

I need your help Doctor Phil. There is absolutely no talking to this man, when I say "we need to sit-down and talk" he just about laughs in my face, there is now way he is going to take advice from a woman never mind listen to one, especially an American Woman.

Our daughter is absolutely georgous (modeling material) and I, myself, need one of Doctor Phils "Extreme Makeovers". I have no slef-esteem left, whatsoever. I hate myself for allowing things to deteriate this far, and especially hate myself due to the fact that my daughter asks me on a daily basis, "mom, please lets just get out of here and leave these men to fend for themselves".

My heart breaks for her, but I try to explain to her that with no money we are unable to go anywhere. A few months ago, he took the check-book and all the credit-cards away from me, another one of his control tactics.

I was working 5 days a week, down to 3 days a week, down to 1 day a week, so I just left (It's because almost all the work has been completed here since "Hurricane Charlie" hit and it seems as though there is a depression here, in Charlotte County, Florida.  Foreclosures went up 90% and taxes tripled since then and there are over 7,500 houses for sale here, not including the foreclosures which alone is 9,500 homes), and since I am not working, my husband hasn't spoken to me and has made his room on the sofa since. I think that the sofa part is the best thing that has happened in our relationship (will not tell him that) but, the "SILENCE" is another one of his control issues and it has broken the last straw on the camels back, so to speak.

I have taught myself how to tile and have made counter-tops for our kitchen, tiled Master-Bath and am 1/2 way done with guest bathroom/kids bathroom. I tell my husband that I have checked newspapers, online, etc. for a job, there is nothing out there, and that I am saving him a bunch of money doing all the tiling (due to Hurricane Charlie), and his responce is "your tiling doesn't pay my ******* bills!" I just want to puke when he speaks.

The race issue I can deal and live with but, the cultural issue I cannot live with any longer, and feel completely trapped.

I have written to the Tyra Banks Show trying to get my daughter into modeling, "this is my daughters goal and her dream", and I just know that she would be so good at it, but I would be embarassed for my daughter because of how I have let myself worth, and feel that I couldn't represent her in an up-lifting manner because of my appearance.

Please, Oh please Dr. Phil, help us.  THANK YOU!!!!

 

Truly,

 

L & E Chan

Hello,

 

I am a 35-year-old woman from Hong Kong. I came here when I was 12.

 

From what I read in the beginning of your message, there is a lot of old-time traditional culture that has been engrained into your husband in his youth. That is contributing to the way (very badly) that he is acting now. I do not think it makes a difference whether you, as the wife, is Caucasian or Chinese, he is still going to act that way. And being a Chinese-American woman orginally from Hong Kong, I don't think I can stand that type of behavior either!

 

Do what is good for you and your daughter. Good luck and God bless!

 
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September 20, 2007, 6:41 pm PDT

09/20 "Change My Face, Change My Race"

Quote From: yoshiyoshi

I agree with you. I honestly, find myself jelous of Asian woman's beauty often. So it seems so absurd to me that they would want to change their eyes. I'm like, "But you're crazy, I'd love to look like you!"

Hi,

 

I just want to talk about the different Asian looks and how diverse they are.

 

I am an Asian woman originally from Hong Kong. I go to Asia annually and watch TV shows and movies from Asia all the time. One thing I noticed is that Asians from Asia look very different from Asian-Americans in the United States. I am not sure the reason, maybe the weather or maybe there are more diverse Asian ethnicities/populations in Asia.

 

Asians in US, espcially American-born ones tend to have darker skin and a more "ethnic" look. I am Chinese so I am comparing the American-born Chinese and the Chinese originally from China or Taiwan. (I live in San Francisco, so there is a large population to compare with. ) My parents when vacationing in San Francisco from Hong Kong often mistake the Chinese Americans in SF as Mexicans and even as African Americans. That's just to show how different the same race can look when they live in different countries and after living in a place for a few generations.

 

So back to the eyelid surgery. One of my eyes already have a good size fold and my other eye has a crease but no actual fold. I have a very asymetrical face but I have never thought about surgery because it is going to make me look un-natural. A lot of the girls want to look prettier, but having the surgery does not necessary make you look prettier. Some actresses in Asia have the heavier eyelids just to show that beauty is beauty and it does not have to do with just your eyelids. It's the whole package!

 

So why do Asian women have the surgery done...when I grew up in Hong Kong, the beauty standard was big eyes (like the Japanes cartoons), long hair and small mouth. So the girls who do not have the big eyes want surgery to open up their eyes to meet the beauty standard. It's like the big lip trend right now- people want the Angelina Jolie lips and I see a lot of Caucasian women have rediculously full lips, which I don't  quite understand because it is not beautiful culturally for Asians to have full/big lips. That's the best I can come up with to explain to folks why some Asian women want the eyelid surgery. 

 
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September 20, 2007, 6:47 pm PDT

09/20 "Change My Face, Change My Race"

Quote From: cassidilla

I'm SOOOOOOO frustrated with the whole "one race vs. another race" issue. I try to avoid the topic all together because the issue provokes gut wrenching, jaw clenching, fist pumping reactions that are so strong i feel unable to communicate my thoughts in an adult dialogue.
first, i must say, well done, dr. phil. you've done it again. this issue is like the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. it's so touchy. it's so......ridiculously sensitive. it's full of hypocrisy and double standards. and dr. phil, you addressed the issue with finesse and bravery. i thought i loved you before, but now i would like you to legally adopt me.
secondly, and i dont even know if i CAN say this, but i will, because for once i would just like to SAY something on the matter instead of stomping away in a fit of rage.
My current boyfriend is obsessed with asian culture and asian women. as are a lot of my male friends. and we're all caucasian. they speak about asian women as if they are these delicate flower treasures and one should count himself as a blessed man should he catch himself an asian woman. not only do i find it highly offensive as a caucasian woman, but i feel even worse that they are objectifying a human being, a WOMAN. it's almost as if they've stripped the humanity away from these women and made them their own personal play toys.i feel protective.i want to stand in front of the woman they are ogling and shield her from their eye rapings.  i become enraged. why is this so common?? I HATE IT!!!!! Why cant we be judged as a possible mate based on my ability to be a good partner, a quality person, AN INDIVIDUAL......rather than whether or not we are a certain race???  i find this to be devestating.


Yes, as an Asian woman, I find it very creepy when Caucasian men talk to me about how they just "love" Asian women. I am sorry but we are not all the same and you don't even know me! How do you know that you just "love" any and all Asian women.
 

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