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April 16, 2008, 11:03 pm PDT

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Hey there skipper I used to sound just like you. I have heard the smoking pot on occasion is okay just like social drinking is okay, and I agree with that  if it is actually true, but more times than not it isn't entirely true. Its like that stripper who just does it to put herself through college who doesn't use drugs and is really a well rounded person. I  know just as many people who do that as you do, who say they are well rounded and believe they are just being picked on but that they arent doing anything wrong,  society just doesnt understand, it was all a ploy of alcohol companies and the government to keep down immigrants ..ect. They all say they arent addicted and they dont do it every day and well all the arguments sound the same, and trust me I am no big fan of drinkers either.  My parents are not violent and neither are the dozens of other people I know who do the same thing and my dad is also a well spoken college graduate. They all say they are fine and its really okay, its just like drinking and in fact drinking is worse and they are all full of crap, every single one of them.  That nurse friend of yours who lets her kid smoke because she knows its okay because she was raised before the war on drugs (yeah that would be my parents) she should be thrown in jail for child abuse and neglect. Its no different then letting underage drinking, teenagers are not capable of judging consequences but their parents ought to be. If that kid wants to move out and be a pot head and tell himself its fine, so be it but he can make that decision when he is an adult.  Every single one of those people you know who have children who were selfish enough to do it while those kids were growing up, forcing those kids to keep their dirty little secret from all the people they new are nothing but self centered infants, its a lonely world keeping a secret like that.  See whatever you want with your own eyes, your head is shoved up your ass limiting your view. I used to have your view and my head was stuck up my ass too!

 

 

The "son" who's mom lets him smoke that I spoke of is in his 40s, actually.

He has a good job. He has a wife and adult kids. He hasn't had a day off in years. He works less on some days if he's sick or hurt, but he always gets out and does something. His kids are great, and none of them even smoke pot because it's a personal choice for them.

Yes if some people can't handle it then they shouldn't smoke it. Just like if if someone abuses alcohol, they shouldn't use it.  I DON'T think people under 18 should smoke pot AT ALL. But I don't care if adults do it because if they're allowed to drink, then it seems dumb to tell them whether or not to smoke a plant.

 
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April 16, 2008, 11:09 pm PDT

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 YOUR MOM AND DAD ALSO NEED HELP DO YOU NOT THINK THAT DRUGS HELPS YOUR LIFE?

IT DOSENT  AND YOU ALL SO NEED THE HELP ABOUT THE DRUGS !CHILD UNDERSTAND

IT IS AS BAD FOR YOU AS BEER OR WINE OR ANYTHING.

WHERE IS YOUR MIND?

THINK ABOUT THIS WHILE YOUR MOTHER WAS ON THE DRUG WHILE PG WITH YOU IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE NOT OK WITH YOUR MIND.

YOU ALSO NEED HELP AND ASK ANY DR AND THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT IT REALLY DOSENT HELP.

AGAIN IT IS NOT GOOD FOR YOU AND FOR ANY ONE.

SO UNDERATAND AS IT IS YOU ARE NOT THE SMARTEST.

                 GET SOME HELP ABOUT THE DRUGS ASK YOUR DR CHILD.

                                                                               Cinco De Mayo 3 

 

My parents don't smoke pot and they never did? Why would you assume that they do? I know people who do smoke pot, yes, but my family isn't one of them. And no, my mother did NOT take drugs while she was pregnant with me thank you for your concern, though.

It's kind of ironic that you call me "not the smartest" when you can't even form proper sentences.

I also don't really need my "dr child" whatever that is.

Thanks for your concern about "where my mind" is but please don't act like I'm stupid just because I have the opinion of "marijuana will not automatically turn you into and evil, violent, crazy person if you smoke it". People had this opinion about pot for many years before the recent war on drugs and people somehow survived.

 
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April 29, 2008, 10:49 am PDT

What about people who god didn't choose?

Quote From: wardjunefan

In my opinion, you are born the sex you are to be born with because that is the way nature intended! People like this, also my opinion, are just practicing a perversion. I can't print what I would do to my father if he did this. I feel for his daughters. If you girls do end up reading this, he is the one missing out, not you. Gee, I wonder what his brothers on the police force think of him.

What do you think (and other christians for that matter) of intersex people, you know, someone born with parts both reproductive systems, or other intersexed conditions, like one where a person will have some cells in the body have XX and others XY chromosomes. I mean, if god picks out what gender you are and you're not supposed to question it, what are the poor intersexed people supposed to do? Just pick a gender and hope they like it?

I think that if biology (not god becaue I don't believe in god) can mess up your gender physically, it can also mess up your gender psychologically.

I think that some people are born with the mindset of one sex, yet they are the other. It's just a mental version of when biology doesn't decide fully on your gender.

 
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November 21, 2008, 12:28 pm PST

11/21 Same-Sex Marriage?

Quote From: priscillamarie

Since you're inactive LDS then why even state you are LDS.  I'm active LDS and you don't know the facts.  The LDS church DID NOT fund Prop 8.  The Catholic church and others did.  LDS only contributed around $2,000.  That's it.  Even if every LDS in California voted against it - it still would have passed.  There is NO excuse for the violence and protesting at the temples.  None at all.  As for gays, we love them, just not the sin.  It is a sin!  If it's o.k. for gays to marry, then why not men and children or men and beast - let's just get all perverse!

Why do people say things like, "if two adults of the same sex can get married, then why not children and animals?"
Two adults of the same sex is very different from children and other species. Animals, not being human, can't enter any sort of contract including a marriage liscence and children are minors. It's very different then two consenting adults. Adults can make decisions like that, children are too young to do so.

It doesn't matter what is a sin, we don't make laws outlawing sins. I have pre marital sex all the time with my boyfriend and you don't try to outlaw that. (although I imagine you'd like to)  Morality is not whatever one religion wants it to be.

 
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November 21, 2008, 12:38 pm PST

11/21 Same-Sex Marriage?

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I do not believe the constitutional rights of gays are being violated by not allowing them to marry.  To get married one has to qualify in a number of areas: (1) age requirement must be met, (2) cannot already be married to someone else,  (3) cannot marry your mother, father, sister, brother, son, daughter or very close relative etc.,  (4) can only marry someone of opposite sex, a relationship that has the potential for bearing children,  (5) has to be voluntary etc.  Other types of relationships do not meet the requirements and therefore do not constitute a marriage...such as same sex relationships.  That does not stop them from going in to a same-sex civil union...live together etc.  THE REQUIREMENTS FOR MARRIAGE ARE THE SAME FOR ALL  AMERICANS...NOT JUST ONE SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION (GAY PEOPLE).  There are not different rules for homosexuals...no, the requirements apply to gay, straight, those whose religion allows polygamy etc. For those who are falsely claiming that the rights of gays are being violated...are they prepared to say that the rights of minors, those who want to have more than one spouse or want to marry a relative (let's say your mother) are also being discriminated against and their constitutional right to marriage has been wrongly denied!!  Can you now see how this line of thinking is all wrong.  Two men or two woman do not a marriage make...they make another type of relationship...and that is fine if they choose it for themselves.   

"(4) can only marry someone of opposite sex, a relationship that has the potential for bearing children,"

 

I never knew that the couple has to have the potential for bearing children to marry. Does that mean that old and infertile couples can't marry?

 
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November 21, 2008, 12:52 pm PST

11/21 Same-Sex Marriage?

Quote From: priscillamarie

The Bible says homosexuality is wrong, thus God and Jesus say it's wrong.  They are children of God, we can love the sinner but not the sin.  Marriage was ordained of God for man and woman only!  I believe that gays can have civil unions and the legal services they want - but NOT marriage and NOT children.  They want their "rights".  I believe some of them choose the lifestyle - even if they are born with it they should try to overcome it.  It was a weakness they were born with.  It is not a "right" to be married.  They are trying to say that their rights are being taken away, just as with blacks in the past or women in the past.  It's NOT the same thing.  The voters have voted and the majority ruled.  They should take their loss and go on.  They should not protest violently at churches and temples.  That's just wrong!  We don't need to be "tolerant" or accept their lifestyle. It's wrong and nothing they say can persuade me.  I am a Christian and an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.  We love them, just not their lifestyle.

"We don't need to be "tolerant" or accept their lifestyle"

 

Does that mean that I don't have to be tolerant and accept your lifestyle? Since you get to decide that gay couples don't get children and marraige then what if I say that anyone who is a religious fanatic like you doesn't deserve marriage and children? If I have children then get divorced are you going to say that I shouldn't be allowed children because I'm sinning and it's so perverse?

I think that making a law to force people to follow your religious beliefs is a weakness that a lot of people need to overcome. No one should have to "overcome" the weakness of loving someone else. But if it's not love to the right person according to you, then they should push away that love and affection and ignore the feelings of happiness and joy that two gay men or women feel when they're with each other. Seriuosly, that's what jesus wanted? Man, I had heard so many nice things about him, too.

 
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November 21, 2008, 1:05 pm PST

11/21 Same-Sex Marriage?

Quote From: berdeniafaye

I am so TIRED of the voice of the people NOT being HEARD. There was 6.1 million people that voted in 2004, AGAINST same sex marriage. Then we have one Judge that says, it's unconstitutional. Are you
CRAZY, to totally override the voice of the people. Then, we vote on it again, and again the answer is
NO, we don't want same sex marriage in the state of California. What part of NO don't they understand?? They say they don't have a hidden agenda.....and if you believe  that !!!! I could sell the Brooklyn Bridge to you. There is Mass. dealing with the hidden agenda that they are trying their best to hide. You give them an inch and they want a mile. Don't you understand, they will stop at nothing to shove it down everyone's throat, especially our children. I don't give a crap if they want to live together, do whatever they want, as long as it's not shoved down my throat and forced upon us. They already have the rights that they sought as a couple. Go live in Mass. where they were duped into making it a law. Are they sorry??? You bet...as it is  reality  that these parents have NO  say in what is being taught to their 5 yr. old pre-schoolers. You give these people same sex marriage, and next you will have the
wierdos coming out of the wood work, wanting to marry their dog, cat or rat, as it's their constitutional
right. It does not STOP, so if ever we held firm on a law.....that WE the PEOPLE VOTED on, it is this one
that we will not lay down and let the Gay community bully us, as I don't give a S*** how many of them
march.  Am I  angry........YOU BET I AM, and anyone that  agrees with me should be.  We did not speak up when it came to taking prayer out of schools, now we are dealing with the CONSEQUENCES.  GOD IS
WATCHING  FOLKS  AND WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND ACCOUNTABLE FOR OUR ACTIONS.......
DON'T BE FOOLED, AS THAT IS WHAT THEY TRIED TO DO, WHEN THEY WORDED PROP. 8 to where you
voted Yes, to mean NO. They lie when they say it's NOT about the children.  It's just a part of the hidden agenda.  I GUARANTEE THEY HAVE ONE.  WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!  BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!!!!

Oh, yes, the gays are trying to get to our childrens! Oh, I can see it now! If gays get their way and have the same marital rights as a hetero couple, then they're will be entire lessons in schools to kindergardeners about gay sex! They'll tell our children that they HAVE to be gay! They'll bring in diagrams and pie charts about gayness!

 

Seriously though, do you honestly think that schools are going to say, "ok, gay marriage is acceptable. We've had all these gay propaganda lessons just waiting to be taught!"

Schools will teach school things. They might talk about the legal debate of gay marriage in civics classes (you know, classes geared towards current events) but what do you honestly think gay people want to teach to kids other than just let people do what they want if it's not hurting anyone else? You're just using fear to rally people who are like you, afraid that the gays are coming for your kids.

And gays are not forcing anything down your throat. They just want to be able to do their taxes as a married couple, have a bank account that both people can access even if something happens to one of them, things that a lot of other people get to do.

Besides, how do you know the people in mass. are sorry about gay marriage being allowed there? Do you really even know if anything really changed? Do you even really know gay things are being talked about in schools over there?

 

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