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October 27, 2007, 3:09 pm PDT

These women need to be punished...

 These women should be ASHAMED of themselves!  My tax dollars are going to help them collect the child support payments from these poor men and frankly, I'm sick of it!!!  Put in her jail and throw away the key!!!  How could she lie to her child about her health history, etc?  She (Maria) is a real sicko!
 
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October 27, 2007, 9:23 pm PDT

The Truth about lies...

The mom is to blame for the fractured relationship and this whole sitution is her fault. How dare she blame it on the current wife? She needs to take responsibiity for the lies and hurt she caused. Actions always have consequences and one day the child will understand that she was used as a pawn for mommy to get money. She's caused the poor child a lifetime of hurt and struggle. It's even more unfortunate that she chooses to perpetuate that hurt and make the ex-husband pay for her cheating. Have some pride for a change and stop being so selfish. Being a women to me means taking responsibility for my actions and making choices that don't have a negative impact on others. Karma, my dear lady, will always get you in the end.
 
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October 28, 2007, 6:00 pm PDT

DITTO

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 Dr. Phil,

I am upset that this had to be a topic for your show.  I believe everyone should have a choice as to if they want to be responsible for someone else's child.  I am such a child, I was raised by my aunt and uncle and they provided me with financial and emotional support.  My biological mother was always in the picture but not my father.  The man I consider my father was amazing and he taught many valuable lesson in life, but it was his choice to be a father to me.  To this day I consider him the most amazing father a girl can have.  Women who trick men into being a parent make it bad for the rest of us.  Men as well as women should be given the opportunity to make that choice for themselves, to force someone to take on that responsibility is cruel and cowardice.

In the end the children suffer and why would you put a child through that?  What values are you teaching children?  In a society that is in the toilet as it is how can we expect our children to be honest and responsible if we live by deception.   Women don't do the deed and hide behind your skirt, be woman enough to face the consequences of your actions.
What values are we teaching our children when it's legal to lie? I agree with you that it's cowardice and very cruel. If you are not the father and you were decieved into supporting a child that's not your's - you should be off the hook and have money plus interest paid back. It bothers me that honest women pay the price for the deception. These women who cheat and lie and tie up the courts for their own greedy purposes need to be put in jail....they have no place in our society!
 
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October 29, 2007, 1:23 pm PDT

How dare anyone blame the second wife....

I have to ask everyone on this board... would you not want to know the truth about your health history???   Imagine going to a hospital and giving crucial information about your health history and it's all a lie???  People have died from stuff like this.  She put the child in danger by not telling her the  correct health background.  Maybe Mia was thinking of this when she said something.....hello people, we ALL want to know the truth about where we come from and who our realy family is....PLEASE!
 
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October 29, 2007, 1:25 pm PDT

And another thing...

If this women lies to her own daughter day after day about health history, etc.  what else has she lied about?  Liars respect NO ONE. Does Maria's current hubby think he's immune?  She lies to him too and she'll take him for a ride when it's time....
 
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October 29, 2007, 1:28 pm PDT

I noticed that too!

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I am so totally irritated with Gloria Allred.  Yes, we should get the "dead beat" dads, but don't take this out on men like Enrique.  He was lied to by Maria.  Yes, the way he told Selina is deplorable - but - he should not have to pay for Maria's lies.  Maria did a lot of laughing and smiling for such a serious matter.  I really wanted someone to wipe the smiles off of her face.  I do feel bad for Selina - she is in the middle and is just a child.  Mom should be hanging her head in shame and not trying to get money from Enrique since she lied to him for nine years.  SHAME ON HER!!!!  I am a mother of 4, grandmother of 12, great-grandmother of 2 and I think Maria is a disgrace to the all women.    I hope the gentleman who paid for 11 years, fought his ex-girlfriend and won will help Enrique.  HOORAY for him.  I think he could give Gloria a run for her money on this subject.  She is obnoxious. 
She doesn't look sorry to me.  What's so funny about this situtation.  He own daughters are so hurt by it.  You could tell they had been coached to say bad things about father.  I wanted to slap her in the face when she was smiling.  She's the cowardice!
 
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October 29, 2007, 1:32 pm PDT

The children were coached!

I never heard them ask the  mother  why or how she could have done this to both of them!  They both should be angry at her.  Also, the bio deadbeat!
 
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October 30, 2007, 5:35 pm PDT

how could mia know the outcome?

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 I didn't say it is right to lie, cheat and steal.  All of these things are wrong.  I am not defending the actions of the mother or the dad.  But, the 2nd wife is the disgusting person who made sure this was all brought out into the open NOW when the victim in this sad saga is a 10 year old child.  That is the main focus or should be right now.  No 10 yr old wants or needs this information.  She needs love and security and every responsible adult in her life should see to it that this is what she gets.
how would she know how the mother would react, etc? no one want's to live a lie. she was there supporting her husband to see selina. how do you know she didnt write into the show to try and reunite the two of them?
 
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October 30, 2007, 5:49 pm PDT

Enrique wants the child in his life

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Any decent woman would also NOT want to be with a man who would abandon a beloved daughter he'd raised for ten years, even upon finding out she is not of his genes!!!  I'd wonder if my spouse was human if they reacted that way.  Hatred, anger, etc.. to the wife for her deceptions would be completely understood, but NOT abandoning one child and keeping the other!  People, this is a "civilized" nation.  Think about what that means for how we as a society choose to treat children who are used in this way.  It's unbelievable that many here can't even agree that a child's best interest (even if it means forcing a parent to help the child financially) MUST be our first consideration.  Children are helpless -- we hold their fate in our hands -- they are prey to our decisions --  they are also the FUTURE of each generation; therefore, they must be protected over and above the adult.
That was clear to me. This story seems very complex and I'm sure there's more to it. Why would someone go on national tv and admit they were wrong if they were not sincere. He's trying hard to correct the mistake. We don't have to be perfect, just admit when we are wrong and try to make it right. I think we should at least give him credit for that.
 
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October 30, 2007, 5:53 pm PDT

I wonder how the child feels?

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I have lived through this same situation.  My father payed child support for my younger sister for 18 years knowing she was nnt his child.  My dad knew and never said a word to any of us about this.  My mother and father divorced before she was born due to this and my mother made sure that my father was not able to see any of his children (there were two of us that were his).  From the time I was 6 until I turned 18 we did not know why our dad would not visit or want to see us.  My mother lied to us and said my dad left when he found out he was pregnant with my sister, he did not want her.  Once my brother and I turned 18 we went to see our dad and found out that my mother had him arrested 3 times because he tried to visit us.  We also found that there was documentation that he was not my sisters father and still payed child support because there was not DNA back in the 60's.  Even at this time he did not come out and tell us he was not her father.  We found out when my sister was 25, the truth came out right before my grandmother died.  This was over 15 years ago and my mother still will not tell the truth, she refuses to tell my sister who her father is.  At the request of my sister my father took a DNA test and confirmed the truth, he is not her father.  My mother took our father away from us at a young age, hurt my sister to the point where she has not been able to carry on a good relationship with a man.  She seems distant from them and is now possibly facing her second divorce.  My father had to give up his children and pretend they never existed after 7 years of raising us, this had hurt everyone and to this day over 40 years later my mother still will not admit she did something wrong and my father still has a problem with having a relationship with his children.  Not to mention that my sisters true father does not know she exists and she has no idea who he is, this is wrong.  I am a woman and these women that are going around and cheating the real father out of a relationship with their children needs to stop.  The courts are not helping with this.  There is more than just the right and wrong here, in some cases there are true medical concerns that these children should be made aware of and sometime don't know about until it is too late.  Why don't these women have to have some type of "restitution or payment" of truth of financial?  They are getting away with this and in the end it is just a oops I guess I didn't tell the truth.  This isn't just about the  money, but for most of these women - IT IS!

 

Let the truth be told!

I wonder how the child feels about knowing the truth? Would she have preferred to be kept in the dark about this her whole life? Dr. Phil never asked her that. Also, he never asked her how she felt about what the mother did. I just found it an interesting note that the girls didn't mention the mother. I wonder if they were coached?
 

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