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October 27, 2007, 4:22 pm PDT

Where can I sign up?

1. Women cheats on man who loves and trusts her and puts unsuspecting husband at risk of disease....
2. Women tricks man into supporting a child that's not his for 18 years....costing him, how much money?
3. Women claims this man is a horrible person BUT, oh yeah, he makes more money than the bio dad (I bet you ANYTHING, I'll place my life on that because we all know what this type of low life women is after) and his money IS GOOD enough...but he does not get to see child?
4. The bio dad, is, WHERE in all this?
5. Man finds out after 10 years that his entire marriage and relationship was based on lies and cheating and he's supposed to be happy about it and not have any feelings of hurt?
6. The burden of the lie is placed in this poor child and unsuspecting man? This could go on forever, it just SO WRONG IN EVERY WAY!!!

How can this women live with herself? She has serious MENTAL problems and anyone who would do this to their own children and then FORCE the poor man to pay child support is VERY CRUEL!
 
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October 27, 2007, 5:55 pm PDT

I concur

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I just can't contain my objection to attorney Gloria Alred's opinion that the man who is not the father should continue paying.  It is thoroughly disgusting that any court would ask a man to pay for a child that is not his, we have enough "dead beat" dads as it is, let alone make someone who is not the father pay.  If he wants to continue to pay that is up to him, but he should not be forced to do it,  it should be his decision  to pay or not.  The mother should go after the real father and if this man has paid he should be able to sue the real father and get his money back, only if he wants to do it.  If the mother does not know who the real father is, well that's too bad, if she has any idea at all a DNA test should show that, and go after the real Dad.  Also I am sure that the child would certainly want to know who his or her real father is, for medical reasons if nothing else or maybe to at least have the chance for the real father and child to know each other.  Thanks for letting me share my opinion with you.
Yea, where is the bio dad "creep" in all this? Slavery went out a long time ago. Why should a man be forced to pay after he's been cheated by the women? Who can respect anyone (Gloria or Maria) that would support a lie? Liars have no respect for anyone and therefore are incapable of forming bonds with others. In this case it's sad that the mother would put that on her own child....these women are ruining our country and need to be stopped immediately!
 
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October 27, 2007, 6:04 pm PDT

I couln't agree with you more.

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  I can't wait to see how Gloria Allred manages to rationalize making a man pay support for another man's child.  This is deceit in the extreme.  It deprives the child of their rightful knowledge of their parent, it allows them to invest their emotions in someone in a false way without their knowledge, it does the same to the unknowing parent, it causes emotional and psychological damage to both injured parties. 

  I can't imagine then telling the man that he should now continue to pay support for a child that he knows is not his but was conceived in treachery during his marriage.

  I hope he and this daughter will be able to recover their relationship.  It was built on honest feelings for each other and had nothing to do with blood or money. 

  I think that as soon as all the children in this household are out on their own, this woman should be arrested for fraud and made to work until she pays the gentleman back every cent he paid her in support for this child.  It isn't the law, but it would certainly be justice.

 

 

What is wrong with this country when we have someone like Gloria rationalizing taking away the right of the child to know the truth? That women (the cheater) should have serious consequences, as well as, bio dad. What's WRONG with these people? Anyone who has no empathy or compassion for another person in my opinion is a psychopath...Gloria and that women are pathetic....
 
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October 29, 2007, 10:51 pm PDT

chelly6269 MARIA IS THE ONLY DRAGON LADY

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you have no idea if I have a situation where I can relate-And from what i saw Maria's new man liked her just fine.  it was Enrique who looked like he had is hands full.
Yea, right!  The only dragon lady here is Maria.  SHE LIED TO HER OWN CHILD AND PUT HER AT SERIOUS RISK!  THE POOR CHILD DOESN'T KNOW WHERE SHE CAME FROM.  GET A CLUE.  MARIA (THE DRAGON LADY) LAUGHED THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.  THE ONLY ROTTEN PERSON HERE IS MARIA WITHOUT HER THE WHOLE MESS WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED!
 
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October 29, 2007, 10:57 pm PDT

WHY

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you have no idea if I have a situation where I can relate-And from what i saw Maria's new man liked her just fine.  it was Enrique who looked like he had is hands full.
 Why are you down on the new wife?  She really didn't do anything.  She should get an award for living through all this mess!  She's stood by Enrique and went on the Dr. Phil show to prove it.  You must relate to Maria because maybe you can relate to her.  I bet you did something like what she did?  Cheated on someone and told him he was daddy?  Mia did nothing in this case.
 
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October 29, 2007, 11:08 pm PDT

chelly6269

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you have no idea if I have a situation where I can relate-And from what i saw Maria's new man liked her just fine.  it was Enrique who looked like he had is hands full.
 So you are saying it's okay for women to lie?  Do you have no pride?  Why be so judgmental on a person you don't know and never met.  Maria is the one who lied.  Get a clue, she lied about who daddy was from the get go.  There's not real proof that Mia did anything wrong.  Nothing!
 
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October 29, 2007, 11:11 pm PDT

chelly6269

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If you think that it is o.k. for a woman to 'father shop' as I read on one website, paying for another man's child in hopes that someone would pay for yours...how about we use that for cars.  I will choose a $50,000.00 car, you pay for it and hope that the favor will someday be returned?  That doesn't make sense either does it.
Sounds like you are a MAN HATER!
 
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October 30, 2007, 3:47 pm PDT

The father is trying to be in her life

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People, keep your eye on the ball....  At some point it must dawn on you that this is not about how to seek justice for Enrique, or how to punish the mom for such an unforgivable deception, but rather about WHAT TO DO NOW SINCE A CHILD IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DECEPTION?!?!?!?!

 

If your focus is on justice for Enrique, or vengeance for the woman (who I agree should be punished by the legal system in some way for not telling her husband the possibility of the baby being someone else's when she got pregnant), then I can see why you've lost sight of the issue.  Allowing Enrique to simply walk away from his daughter and from financial responsibility (while I can't believe that any man would do this... oh...wait....Enrique did...) might be dandy for a heartless, loveless father, but is hardly justice for the child he raised and which has called him "daddy" in sad and happy times for ten years!  Forcing him to stay involved and/or pay child support may or may not be justice for the child (money is always helpful for a child's upbringing, but the relationship might still suffer) and is unjust for a heartless father who decides he no longer wants to care for the child because of the unfair circumstances (the betrayal).  In my book, YOU DON"T WALK AWAY FROM YOUR CHILD!  PERIOD!  If someone told me today that one of my kids wasn't mine biologically, I WOULDN"T CARE!!!  IN FACT,  I WOULD PRAY THAT I WOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE RAISING HIM/HER. THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY FEAR AND CONCERN. When we had our first child, there were a number of reports in the news about hospitals that were found to have switched babies unintentionally, and families raised children which they didn't know wasn't theirs, until years later.  I FEARED situations like that.  My fear certainly wasn't that I would be FORCED to continue to love and financially support the child I had raised for many years, but that I WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO.  See the difference?  I know the circumstances differ, but the issue of money and biology is STILL the same.  Anger and vengeance for the wrong-doer (the mom) are the only reason everyone keeps piping about how "unfair" this all is and how "no one should have to pay for a child that isn't biologically theirs" crap. 

 

THE DECEPTION IS HORRIBLE.  THE LAW SHOULD HAVE A PUNISHMENT IN PLACE.  BUT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A CIVILIZED SOCIETY.  WE DON'T ABANDON CHILDREN BECAUSE OF THE SINS OF THEIR PARENTS... NOR SHOULD WE WANT TO... AND WE CERTAINLY SHOULDN'T BE FIGHTING SO HARD TO DEFEND SOMEONE'S RIGHT TO ABANDON THE CHILD THEY LOVED AND RAISED!

What part of that did you not get? It's the mother who is saying no. Did you not hear Dr. Phil ask her mom why she is cutting him off?
 
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October 30, 2007, 3:52 pm PDT

your response is so wrong!

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 Perhaps you might believe your own convoluted tripe, but it does not resinate with me.  What a 10 year old NEEDS is the love of her father that she has known ALL her life.  When she is an adult then she MIGHT benefit knowing her sperm donor dad.  And I say might????? The man who loved and took care of her is her 'real' dad.  At 10 she doesn't need to know her medical history.  Her mother knows the truth and can take care of that if there is some emergency.
 The fact that you blame what you did on your own daughter is contemptuous.  You just go from bad to worse. 
Some are going to be blinded to your evil with the outrageous behavior of the mom and dad, but YOU lady are the REAL problem in THIS story.  YOU should have kept your thoughts and words to yourself.
Since you are a big one on praying I suggest you pray for forgiveness for bringing all this pain and suffering on this beautiful child.  Yes you have participated in tearing a family apart.  You have NO compassion.  Now you want everyone to have peace.  Too late lady, your evil has done it's job.

HELLO DID YOU NOT GET THAT SHE'S THERE TRYING TO SUPPORT HER HUSBAND? IT'S THE MOM WHO ROBBED HER OF HEALTH HISTORY, ETC. JUST WHEN WAS SHE PLANNING ON TELLING HER DAUGHTER WHAT SHE HAD DONE. HOW DARE YOU JUDGE MIA? YOU DON'T KNOW HER SO GET OFF YOUR HIGHT HORSE LADY!
 
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October 30, 2007, 3:55 pm PDT

HELLO

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EVEN IF IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY ITS THEIR MONEY ITS EASY FOR YOU TO SAY THIS CRAP ITS NOT YOUR MONEY BEING TAKEN FROM UNFAITHFUL WOMAN
WHY SHOULD YOU PAY SOMEONE ELSE'S BILL. IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MONEY - YOU PAY THE BILL EVERY MONTH. WHAT IF THIS MAN WANTED TO HAVE A BABY WITH HIS NEW WIFE OR WHAT IF THEY ALREADY HAVE THIER OWN KIDS? WHAT ABOUT THE BEST INTESTED ON THE MANS REAL CHILDREN? I SAY YOU STEP UP AND FOOT THE BILL FOR THIS CHEATING WOMAN'S LIFESTYLE!
 

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