Messages By: beinformed

Quote From: auburnjenn

This "kid" must be around 19 or 20 years old by now due to time frame given. He is a grown adult by law. So why is he having mommy decide that he can't be on camera? If you are bold enough to accuse someone of something of this nature -- and they are basically vindicated -- but drag it out for years and years, then you need to face that person in the eye and explain your story. The fact that he wasn't there and hid behind mama tells me everything.

Quote From: moveonalready

Okay folks, I am from Glen Rose, Texas, which is where Joelle Ogletree is from.  I know Joelle, and I too do not believe she is telling the whole truth.  It may not have happened exactly like the boys are telling it, but something was not right.  What kind of teacher writes little notes in code to their students?  And what she said they said did not make any sense at all.  I have never seen Joelle show any emotion when she speaks on this matter, and I find that strange. I can also tell you folks not to feel too sorry for her on the volunteering thing. She was room Mom for her daughters Kindergarten class last year.  She is at the school for every school activity and program we have.  And to top it all of, she is the secretary of the PTO at her daughters school.  She is up there having lunch with her daughter (saw her today as a matter of fact) alot.  She has her teaching liscense and she was never found guilty.  She can teach anywhere she wants, just not at that school district.  Besides, would you want someone teaching there while they were sueing you?  I think not!  She has even said she does not want to go back to teaching.  So I say quit whining and let it go already.  5 years later, and it is now coming back up.  Why?  She is in debt and needs to try and get out.  Yes, I said it.  But that is just my opinion and everyone has one.

Quote From: gingerella

i am a career teacher.

i see predatory behavior in this teacher. she is guilty of preying on her male students, and lying about her behavior. she is still bullying, intimidating, and confusing her former student. she can not say that she is innocent, because she is guilty, but would rather talk about meaningless 'details', such as her car headlights, the lenght of a kiss, if a piano was moved or not.
keep her away from the classroom.
she is evil.

Quote From: degreebound54

#1. He was not proven to be a liar. The test given detected deception. #2. There can't even be a who is telling the truth an who isn't, when she refussed to take one herself. What is she hiding? The boys were telling the truth six years ago and their telling the truth now

Quote From: teachart2

 Hi Dr. Phil:
     I am writing to you as a Mother first, of three boys, who were allegedly sexually molested at the ages of 5, 7 and 9.  I am also writing to you as a teacher.  First, I would like to say that if there was anyone on the stage I did not believe it was that teacher.  On this episode when the young man came out to talk she asked for a note pad to write "all his lies down on" yet all she wrote down was that he changed the time of the kiss and what they talked about when she masterbated him.  Come on if someone was saying those things about me and they were not true I would not need you to say that none of it happened.  Yet, she never said that until you prompted her.  Yes, they flunked polygraph tests, but they also passed them when it was closer to the incident.  Why did she not submit to one?..I think that was huge. If she was telling the truth she should have passed, yet she said her lawyer would read signs that weren't there, well what about reading things on the boys that weren't there.  If your lawyer tells you it's going to give the wrong reading because of this and that, then it can do it on the boys.
     My biggest thing is - what 21 year old man is going to come on national TV 6 years after the incident and say these things if they are not true.  If he was making it up why not go for the whole picture.  Why not say they had sex and she wore nasty lingerie.  He didn't, because he was telling the truth.  He got little details wrong or different then court, but not major details, the incident still stayed the same.
      His comment about her marrying her high school teacher should have been persued.  He was saying if it was okay in your mind to marry a teacher and have relations with a teacher, then in your mind you've crossed that boundary and why not give your students the pleasure of having relations with their teacher.
That should have been persued more.
     Last, what is she thinking : driving students alone in her car, we all know not to do that!!  Having a whole class of boys spend the night.  The French class sleepover was all boys...WHY?  Writing those notes.  That right there showed that she was flurting with her students.  And what a crock what she said they meant.  It did not make any sense.  Asking boys over to her house.  I think she crossed the boundary way too many times.
     Being a teacher it would be devastating to be wrongly accused.  I don't know if that was the case here.  I think she is lucky she had a mis-trial.  These women that are getting off so easy for doing this to young boys infuriates me.  This is rape just as if a man did it to a young girl.  If it was a man on you stage (and I can 't believe I am taking the male side right now.)  But if it was a man and that was a little girl everyone in the audience would have believed her and said he shouldn't be anywhere near the school, but because it is a woman ... it's "boys will be boys, they have wild hormones and he only wishes that's what happened."
    There was something about her...I think she is guilty.

Quote From: charmed4ever10

I could not have said it better if I had tried myself.Oh! wait, I did try to write how I felt. You hit the nail right on the head!       

                   

Quote From: jammaw45

This is why they don't like to put any child under 17 on the stand!!!!! They waffle embellish and freak out. Matt is a classic example of what happens when exposed to molestion whether mildly or not.

 

I took the route of no emotion to the extreme. The only time I showed any emotion was when backed in a corner after being attacked by those in authority who did not believe me. I can see that in every bit of him.

 

Matt I sincerely hope and pray that you are in counselling. I am now 45 and still have troubles from my molestation. You are young enough, please get help. Keep your chin up and don't let anyone tell you you are bad for blowing the whistle. Don't fret the details, she was messing up on details tooo.

Quote From: twmanager

Dr. Phil, By far this is one of the best shows that you have ever done.  I am a young beautiful teacher (Female).  I have been teacher for 8 years and I understand how a teacher may have a personal relationship with a student.  I take precautions so that I will not get into those kind of positions.  (Such as leaving the door open, if i must take a male student home I drop the male student off first).  Also, leave my room door open if I must be alone with a student.  (Any sex)  Why couldn't the husband take the boy home to get his medicine?  I am tired of all these teachers taking advantage of our innocent boys and girls for their own selfish purposes.  There are a few reasons I have a problem with the teacher's story.  1.  She did not take the lie detector test again.  The boys passed the 1st test and failed the Dr. Phil test.  Who is to say that Joelle will pass Dr. Phil's test.  If she passed Dr. Phil's lie detector test then and only THEN would I believe her.  WHY OH WHY does a teacher need to give a note to a student?  (A personal note with code words on it?).  It doesn't make sense.  I personally don't remember every detail of things that happened to me last year much less when I was 14.  Dr. Phil, I think that you were not hard enough on Joelle.  I just didn't believe her.  Something wasn't right about that show.  I think that Dr. Phil's producers should have had access to all the depositions and stories so that Dr. Phil could have really questioned both of them.  The school issued a statement, but I think that there should have been another teacher or someone (Adult) that believed that Joelle did it.  Joelle was trying to out talk and out think the 20 year old boy.  Although he failed the lie detector test I felt there was truth to his story.  She needs to move out of that town and take her losses.  If I am falsely accusing Joelle I feel bad, but she should have taken the lie detector test.  I think she has SOMETHING to hide.