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December 12, 2007, 7:01 pm PST

11/02 Teacher Sex Scandal, Part 2

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1) First comes the accusations/ allegations.

 

2) At this point it is appropriate for the school board to take action-- suspend the teacher.

 

3) You reasonably know they cannot let her back in the school until she passes the "test for pedophilia" or the "trial", as I would call it.

 

4) Next comes the trials/courts, "test for pedophilia" (whatever you wish to call it). But then there is a mistrial...what is the school supposed to do? A small town divided...how many parents would keep their children in that school if Joelle was back? The school would lose students, respect, etc. Bad for their business, bad for their reputation!

 

5) They still don't know with 100% certainty what's going on. BUT, They knew she was inappropriate in the sense of the secret notes/ sleepover/ personal relationships with students outside of the school. So they chose not to renew her contract. How is this wrong? Isn't it better to be safe than sorry? They keep their school, they keep their students, they keep their respect. Why would you expect them do do anything else?

 

6) She was inappropriate, maybe or maybe not in as a pedophile, but as a teacher with a half a brain.... So why should they keep her?

 

7) Then the teacher has a law suit against the school, yeah well....if you were a business man would you hire an employee back who has a pending lawsuit against you??

 

....I didn't think so

 

They did not suspend her; they fired her.

 

They did not "chose to not renew her contract"; she had been fired almost two years before the trial.

 

The State ruled she had not been inappropriate and renewed her teaching certificate.

 
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December 13, 2007, 8:00 am PST

11/02 Teacher Sex Scandal, Part 2

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Well first off, it seems of popular opinion that the state didn't "rule" anything and this was a mistrial. Secondly even if the state did rule she had not been inappropriate, this would be irrelevant. The state does not choose who the school hires or fires. The school can fire a teacher based on their own reasons, you don't have to be a convicted pedofile to get fired from a job.

 

I was talking about the state hearing for her license, and I quote, "

Based on the evidence, the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) concludes that Ms. Ogletree did

not engage in the alleged misconduct. Consequently, no disciplinary action should be taken against

her teaching certificate, and her application for license renewal should be granted in its entirety."

 

When the state declared a mistrial at her criminal trial, they could have retried her immediately, but they chose to drop the charges instead  That says a lot!

 
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December 17, 2007, 5:42 pm PST

11/02 Teacher Sex Scandal, Part 2

Alanna said:The appointment was at 4:00 (FACT) WRONG

it was ONLY an hour away (FACT). School starts in the morning (FACT). Joelle wouldn't have had to leave for her appointment until after 2:30 (allowing a half hour leeway). WRONG

That is roughly 6 hours of her and S's whereabouts unknown. WRONG

Doug was at school that day (FACT). He could not be an alibi. There are no alibis accounting for the first half of the day. WRONG

Where did you see or read witness testimonies as alibis for the first half of J's day? Please show me where this is so it can be cleared up!

The ALJ heard all the facts with evidence and if it is brought up in a court again, The story will again be proven impossible to have happened.  How many times must she prove it to the world? 

Her alibi is solid for all day.

 

 
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December 17, 2007, 7:20 pm PST

11/02 Teacher Sex Scandal, Part 2

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Her appointment wasn't at 4:00?

Her apppointment wasn't an hour away?

She had a solid alibi who wasn't Doug for all morning?

 

You say wrong wrong wrong, so correct me then.

 

Tell us all to clear this up: who where what and why for the whole school day.

 

She was at work in the morning.  Picked up her child, and went to an early afternoon appointment.

The ALJ heard all the specifics.

 
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December 17, 2007, 8:46 pm PST

11/02 Teacher Sex Scandal, Part 2

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How many times must she prove it to the world? 

 

I guess as many time as she keeps bringing it back up.  Remember, the trial was 5 years ago........ got the license back.  Story over, go to work and raise your daughters that you are so concerned about.  Years later, lawsuit and Dr. Phil show.  Now she has to to through it all over again. I guarantee you, even if this lawsuit is one, this thing is not over.  She will bring it back up some way, and therefore, have to prove it to the world yet again.

2002:  accused and fired

2003 : indicted

2004;  criminal trial/charges dropped

2006:  hearing and license renewed

 

This has been her life and it should not have happened to her and should not happen to anyone else who is innocent!

 
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December 18, 2007, 9:19 am PST

11/02 Teacher Sex Scandal, Part 2

Alanna said; 3 different accusations and only one thing in common

 

Let me give one more thing in common:  Each boy's story specifically says he did not ejaculate. Not during a 10 minute "hand job" (depending on which of his versions you go by as to the time involved).  Not the oral sex, or not even the actual act of intercourse (which was later recanted).

Interesting, isn't it?

 

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