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Messages By: gisele07
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October 29, 2007, 1:40 pm PDT
 My fiance of the past two years, is in the same situation that the man in today's show. When he was 17, he slept with a 16 yr old twice, kiati, thought she was a virgin, and "clean". Wore a condom in both occurrences and then he thought he no longer had any ties to her. Well she claimed she was pregnant with his baby, and she had a miscarriage, didn't tell him, and then he married her because he was young and felt forced to. ( when i don't know why men still do that, i personally wouldn't) So, he marries her, not happy, doesn't love her, but does it to be right coming from a VERY religious family. Then, he slept with her again, and all along she was sleeping with other men. (Wearing a condom) So, then her father gets mad and makes sure the marriage didn't even occur cause it wasn't even legal, and she sent the approval papers to another address so she basically forged her parents approval. He also found out that she was sleeping with one guy for sure, and he wouldn't be surprised if any other guys were due to her reputation. So my fiance gets mad, and leaves for the army. Visiting on his leave, kiati, the "mother" of his "kid" "attacked him " sexually when he was drunk, all he remembers is pushing her off , telling her no. and her trying to take off his pants, she claimed they had sex. So she claims she raped him. ( And I personally know how he is when he's drunk, he gets drunk, passes out and that's that) So he leaves the next day and doesn't know what happened. Goes to Korea, this is the 1st of the year. Well she gets in car wreck, and the baby gets injured the cord gets wrapped around her neck and she goes to red cross to send to him in the army that he has a child that is on the way that's injured. So he's like what the heck, talks to her and finds out they supposedly slept together. He also finds out that the due date doesn't coincide with the date they supposedly had sex together. She claimed they had sex jan. 1st, and then the doctor stated they would be due in sept 23rd, but the doctor told her she wasn't due that day she wasn't as far along and she was due the 21st of october a whole months difference. She gives birth he tries to play nice so she won't wring him dry in amount of child support, and he's been playing daddy when he knows there is possible doubt. Any occurrence that happens she's really dramatic about and her mother has psychological disorders and kiati reflects that in her own behavior. She's always trying to pick a fit with him and especially me. She only calls for child support but she never gets it because she's now on food stamps. He'll bring up that he doubts being the father of the second child and she gets really mad and treats in a way that she was caught based on her behavior. She recently called to complain about how she wants him to sign custody over, and he said he wants a paternity test. She was mad at first but he said you give me a paternity test and we'll go from there. It just really sucks because she's mentally messing with them but not only claiming he's the father if he isn't, but she says things that aren't right. She'll say you're father doesn't love you, want to see you, doesn't think he's your daddy. Just horrible things. I'm just afraid that if we don't get a paternity test than she'll really mess with them even more psychologically , and she'll force him to pay more and we're both struggling as it is, being both full time college students, we can barely pay for our schooling as it is. If anyone has any good suggestions from either side I'd appreciate it. |
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October 29, 2007, 1:53 pm PDT
Quote From: archladydi Women have the right to ask for DNA to prove who fathered the child so why can't a man request the same procedure? No one should be expected to pay child support for a child that is not theirs. I also think the mother should be held legally responsible if she knows the child is not her husbands/boyfriends and lies to the courts about it. It is about time that the rights of the mother and father be equal and that we throw out this anitquated theory favoring women in divorce. I feel sorry for the child who finds out that his father really isn't his father and that his mother has been lying to him/her. People do not realize the damage they do to children with their selfish acts. If we insist that the man pay child support for a child that is not his we are giving the real father a free pass on his responsibilities and telling the mother what she did was acceptable. My fiance is prolly going to be in the same situation as the man today, and it just sucks because women can choose who they want to be the father of the baby. It's just sad that women can't admit to their mistakes ,and say that they messed up and lied ,as opposed to lying to not only the father but to their child. So, then it messes with the relationship between the mother and child and "father" and child. It's rather sad. I think they should have to be charged criminally and reinburst the "father" with money that he previously paid for child support. It shouldn't just be a slap on the wrist situation, it should go on their record as some sort of fraud. |
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October 29, 2007, 6:41 pm PDT
Quote From: disneymom5 I just about had a stroke watching the show ! My husband and I LIVED this just a few short years ago ! My husband had been married before and when the 3 kids were taken from the ex, due to her drug use, and CPS was going to give them to us, SHE is the one who screamed that "the girl is not his !" (she was 7 at the time)... Well, that opened up the can of worms that ended up costing us over $30,000.00 !!!!!! This all happened in Washington State, a state that CATERS to LIARS, and THEIVES ! We had a DNA test done, and sure enough, my husband was NOT the father ! This PIG of a woman (let's call it what it IS here, folks), even NAMED the BIO dad --- that STILL did not matter to the corrupt state of WA ! They went after my husband full force to STILL pay support, because, they would not let us raise her because she was not his bio kid, but flat out told us that he would still have to pay support. That was evil ! So, we lawyered up and fought back, MAKING Wa state go after the bio dad ! After 2 years, of fighting this, WE WON !!! May I add, before the court fight ,the courts took all my husband's visitation away because the PIG "mother", told the child he was NOT her dad ! They said it would be damaging to her to still see him, knowing he was not the dad. So, you see, he was not the one to cut off the relationship with the kid --- the state of WA did that !! They had told him that he would not be allowed to see her, talk to her, or know anything about her, but had to financially support her. It was truly a hard fight, but , in the end when we won, we knew we did the right thing. My husband did everything he was supposed to, and time and time again the state of WA screwed him over ! For all those out there who think a man should pay for a kid that is not thiers, just because they were there for a few years, (or 10 --- I don't care how long it was ), you are just as sick and twisted as the liar "mother" ! Why don't YOU pay for the kid then??? You would be as related to her as the accused man is ! By having these men STOLEN from,--- AND YES, THAT IS WHAT IT IS ----- just gives these sub-human "women" a free ticket and reward for being a liar and a theif ! For the courts to tell a man that they are non-exsistent except for the WALLET they own is the lowest form of evil I know ! They , like the creep women they protect, care NOT ONE BIT about what is FAIR and RIGHT, but, who has the easiest wallet to steal from ! And the whining of "but what about the chillldddd?" Give me a break ! Have the whore "mother" deal with that ! It is called CONSEQUENCES ! Maybe if we held these PIGS responsible for the lies they tell, that destroy lives, we would stop seeing this kind of garbage !! In the end, my husband was removed from the birth certificate and won his case 100% ! But, he will forever be angry and bitter that when he TRIED to step up and raise this kid, the state of WA ripped that away from him ! And to blame the new wife for all this??? OH GEEZZZ !!! Are you saying men are so dumb that they will blindly go along with what ever the new wife says ? I choose to think that these men are smart and can think for themselves ! Let us not forget that the "new wife" was 100 % RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What argument now?? Place the blame where it belongs ! Squarely on the back of the woman who is now PROVEN to be a whore and a LIAR ! Believe me, if there were ANY way to sue this creep for all the money my husband wasted over 7 years, and just for the pure heartache I saw him suffer through, it would be done in a milli-second !! But, like always, men get the bad rap in this situation. Not all men are creeps ! As I am seeing more and more, it is the women who are truly disgusting ! Something needs to be done to make this fair ! It is not like men are asking to be let off the hook.......... if they are not the dad, they should be left alone ! Make the woman pay for her own kid ! It is now HER PROBLEM !!!! Until something changes in the court system, (and by the garbage Gloria Allred was spewing out there, doesn't look too good), this will continue to go on. With lying women and Ms. Liberal, er, Allred, there backing them up, the good folks are screwed. God help us all.............. I TOTALLY agree with you! I am going to be going through the same situation with my fiance because he had doubt by a whore he slept with twice in his whole life with a condom second time she supposedly had sex with him when he was passed out but the dates don't add up, that both kids were his, but said ok to it to save the headachebut it's caused more of a headache now, because she's wanting to have him sign custody over so it raises question as to why she wants to do that now. But, I find the court system crappy in any situation and especially with custody. And everyone tends to blame the "new wife" but men are smart and can think for themselves and they have the right to question. Obviously the marriage didn't work, so how reliable is the "mother of his kids" esp like in my fiance's case where the mother is a drug addict, how stable is she then since she has to rely on drugs, are you truely going to believe an abuser? Trusting a mother's opinion that chooses to practice drawing blood from her 5 yr old son??? and the CP did NOTHING about it! So, Indiana is just as screwed with the whole CP and custody and child support I really didn't like that lady she needs to find another hobby instead of supporting the whores out there. I really do agree wtih you though! It sux that all that money was spent to come to find out you could no longer see the kids, but I hope that it is successful for us too, in either situation. |
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