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November 1, 2007, 5:29 pm PDT

The Wife

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I feel sorry for Kevin, it is clear that he has done things wrong. However it is ridiculous that his wife is making him out to be the only problem with this marriage. It made me sick to watch his wife carry their daughter during the fights, it was clear that Kevin was trying to avoid conflict during some of these fights. He was begging her to leave him alone. As far as his Christianity, I think it spoke volumes when he said he was a work in progress, all of us are.

Kevin I am praying for you and hoping you find the peace you need, please continue your reading of the Bible and praying, if you want more support my family is here for you.

 

 

I also felt badly for Kevin. He really needs to clean up his act. But it seemed as though his wife just thinks she is perfect. I got the feeling she expected Dr. Phil to chew her husband out, but not her. She seemed almost surprised that Dr. Phil even suggested that she had a roll in her bad marriage.

 

My parents also had terrible fights when I was growing up. It is awful. I hope those 2 go their own way, and decide to divorce. Then maybe poor little Penelope can have a decent childhood.

 
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November 1, 2007, 7:02 pm PDT

The Wife Is Not The Only Victim

Quote From: Pleasance

Ain't it the truth!

 

Thank you for posting this much needed input.

 

Glory be, sad it is ..... the  victims are...victimized again.

 

"The more I holler the truth, the more no one listens."           He wins!

 

"The more I step up to the plate, the more invisible I become."    He wins again!

 

He continues the abuse with a whole army of allegiance  condoning his actions every step of the way.

 

What a support group the Abuser had against the victims, mother and child.

 

Our society, finally listens to children who are molested and sexually abused.

 

Our society finally listens most of the time to sexually assaulted & rape victims.   Though there are still major problems there, too.

 

WHEN WILL ANYONE HEAR THE VOICES OF ABUSED AND BATTERED WOMEN?

 

How many women and children have to  continue to die?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really don't see it the way you do at all. I totally think the wife is an instigator and likes to argue. Every suggestion Dr. Phil gave her, she shot down.

 

 If her husband was abusing her so badly, she would have gone out the front door and kept on walking. She's going to just stay because he took her keys? Oh, boo, hoo, hoo.

I didn't believe  anything she said.

 
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November 2, 2007, 10:39 pm PDT

Neither One Of Them Seemed 100 % Honest

I did not feel confident that either one told the absolute truth. Dr. Phil looked as though he felt that way, too. I don't think we will ever know what really happened. Something did, but it is not clear what, and nobody knows but them.

 

The teacher and that student seemed very insincere to me. 

 
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November 2, 2007, 10:50 pm PDT

Dr. Phil Was Right

Quote From: pixistyk

I was very disapointed at Dr.Phil and his attitude towards the INNOCENT teacher.Making comments about why she wasn't reacting the way he thought she should.She should have done this or that.She didn't show the emotions he thought she should.Well sorry to say Dr.Phil not everyone reatcs to that kind of pain the same way.She was FALSELY accused,lost her job and her status in the  community.I dont think you could possibly know how she should react Dr.Phil! I have watched your show everyday since you have aired and I couldnt believe how cold you were to this woman.Shame on you!

You are making assumptions that she is innocent and getting mad at Dr. Phil because he questioned her reactions? You're kidding!!

 

That boy was not innocent, but neither was that teacher. Dr. Phil looked disgusted with both of them, and I don't blame him. There was more game playing going on there than you would find in any ball park.

 

We did not get the right story from either one of them. Or the husband either, for that matter. What a bunch of sickies!!

 
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November 4, 2007, 12:38 pm PST

Dr. Phil Knows What He's Doing

Quote From: missmarilyn

This discussion isn't about you or how you react to accusations.

Dr. Phil is nobody's fool.  And he is a trained professional. He had every right to question that teacher's response to the accusations being made against her.

 

The way any of us respond in similar situations is irrelevant.  I can't believe somebody took the time typing such a long post to tell us.

 
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November 4, 2007, 6:52 pm PST

She did not Act Appropriately

Quote From: darlacarlisle

This happens to many teachers. It is applauding that teachers are not treated better. It is so obvious that the boy is lying. He started this lie and is having fun with it. If the court dropped the charges then we should treat this teacher with respect that she deserves. I have had many friends that this has happened to and has runined their lives. It is just not fair that society will buy into these types of prakes. Darla Carlisle

Im sorry, but I just don't agree with your opinion of Joelle. I do think that Matthew was dishonest, but so was she.

 

She had no business having any student to her house, ever. And a sleepover? Absolutely the wrong thing to do. In this day and age, those are 2 things an intelligent teacher would not do. Especially a female teaching teenage boys!!

 

And then she wrote those secret notes in code. Is she nuts??? I mean she actually wants us to believe she is so innocent and doesn't know why these boys accused her.

 

And you want us to respect her? I don't think so.  Dr. Phil knew a lot more than he could say on the air. I'm convinced of it.

 
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November 8, 2007, 10:06 am PST

Young People And Their Parents

Quote From: crossbare

Deepest sympathy to you at the loss of your beloved Mother!

You are so right about what you're saying. I am a baby boomer and my Mom and I fought every single day when I was a teenager. She hated my clothes, makeup, and the way I combed my hair. We just had so many typical mother-daughter issues.

 

She died of cancer in 2000. I was able to tell her all of the things I had never told her before. I feel like crying, as I'm writing this. I was also lucky enough to tell my Dad everything I wanted to, before he died. They both knew how  much I loved and appreceiated them. I miss them every day. It's so hard.

 

I tell this to my 12 year old niece, when she gets bratty with my sister, that her Mom will not always be here. It goes in one ear and out the other. It's sad that it has to be that way. They don't get it when they are young. I was no exception. My parents were always supposed to be here. Well, surprise. They're not.

 

I'm sorry about the loss of your Mom. God bless you and help you through this difficult time.  

 
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November 9, 2007, 12:09 am PST

No Resolution

I really don't see any resolution for this family at all. It was frustrating because I still can't figure out why they hate each other so much!!

 

However, I do have a prediction for the future. I don't think that Jay and Michelle will ever last in their marriage. I think Michelle is a self-righteous little brat. She seemed to take great pleasure in telling Jay's Mom that she could not come to the wedding. She only said it 20 times.

 

And I think Jay is so whipped, it's not even funny.  But some time in the future, when his life with Michelle is a train wreck, he'll be seeking his Mom's comfort. The wimp. How can he let his future wife treat his Mom like that??

 

Also, why would Michelle want to marry a man that is so hurtful to his own mother? If she were really a woman mature enough to marry,  that would bother her. This couple is no more ready for marriage than a couple of high school kids would be.

 

That's my prediction. This marriage will be a nightmare, especially for Jay. It serves him right.   

 
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November 9, 2007, 12:21 am PST

Isolation Is A Priority For The Controller

Quote From: spiritcat

I just remembered something from another Dr. Phill

show.  Am I wrong, or is the first step in a controling

relationship to isolate the one you want to control

from family and friends?  Think about it.

You are right!! Dr. Phil has said that so many times. He has also explained the reason, and it makes perfect sense. The controller does not want their spouse complaining to their family or friends. They might advise the one being controlled to leave or fight back. That interferes with the plans of the controller.

 

The controller wants their spouse to depend only on them, as much as possible. It's really sick. And as I watched the show today, I thought Michelle wants to control every single thing Jay does.

 

I can see her after the wedding. She will never want him to go out without her or hang with his male friends. Their life together is going to be all about her. I really think he will one day curse the day he married her.

 

 

 
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November 10, 2007, 8:22 am PST

Good For You!!

Quote From: tinaaubs

I once received the most shocked look in my life from a woman I asked to please stop using the N word because she was offending me.  (We were near a play area in a mall where I was watching my son play.)She was black, I am white.  IT OFFENDS ME TOO!

I am also white and I will not associate with people who use slurs like that. It really offends me, too.

 

Remarks about race, religion, or sexual preference that are unkind, is something I do not tolerate in friends or family. I applaud you!!!

 

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