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November 8, 2007, 6:14 pm PST

Banned from the Wedding

Quote From: gooseylucy

There is a great deal of anger in the dynamics of the proposed wedding of Jay and Michelle - for now, the wedding should be cancelled and the couple should attempt a six month hiatus without contact or communication.  A lifetime is a long time and the six month trade a small price to pay for "forever after". 

 

It occurs to me that the people in this scenario are in states of arrested development - they do not have the skills to negogiate a settlement in this matter, and choose to look only at  vindictive options; a common trait for children under the age of twelve. 

 

Were I the prospective mother-in-law in this situation, I would be devastated to learn that my son would allow this treatment of me.  Further, I would be heartbroken to consider that he would spend the rest of his life with such a shallow and apparently vindictive person.  I would grieve for the happiness of knowing and loving grandchildren, because I would realize that the ripple effect of this mindset would contanimate everything, and there would be nothing I could do to alleviate it. 

 

Were I the prospective bride, I might be thrilled to think I would have that kind of power over my fiancee; however, given the blessing of insight, I might be terrified to learn that my husband would be such a spineless jellyfish - might he forsake me in the same manner in the future?  Or worse yet, might he forsake our children when the going gets tough?  

 

Were I the prospective groom, I might be thinking that I am doing the right thing for the time being, but at the same time I might be repelled at the selfishness of the woman I plan to marry.  I might wonder at her narcissism, and how it would effect our life together and the lives of our children.  I might be thinking for the present that I can "fix" the in-law problem at a later date (after all, hasn't Mom always backed my plate?), but I really need someone to tell me that I can never unring the bell; that even if it resolves in some manner in the future, I would have failed everyone concerned, even the unborn. 

 

When the going gets tough, the tough get going - the sissies flunk out!  Sadly, often they (the sissies) don't have the maturity to recognize their failures or even consider them.  There is no reality but their own, nothing important but themselves.  Ultimately, they wind up alone. 

I agree with the quote I just read above so I won't take up alot of time with repeating what was just written.  It is sad that Jay is not standing up to his fiancee and demanding respect for his mother, its called getting a BACKBONE.  MIchelle is a very SPOILED BRAT!  Thank god I don't have daughter in-laws like that.  My son's (3) have a back bone and stand up for what they believe in and WILL NOT stand for anyone to trash their family especially their parents.  I doubt this mother of Jay's has been all that bad until she was banned from the wedding and what mother wouldn't be upset.  Granted I don't think there EVER is a time when an adult should use these foul languages and call people these horrible names. I don't think very much of Jane for that at all and it is inexcuseable.   Obviously it has HURT everyone alot except Michelle and she is such a DRAMA queen that she is not at all thinking she is at fault.  She evidentally has been sheltered and coddled all her life.  She is pretty on the outside so it has gotten her what she has wanted through life but not anything very respectable.    I believe MIchelle and Jay should go through ALOT of counseling and get a better attitude about people around them and life in the future.  They need to work on the marriage in counseling before they say those precious vows.I don't give this marriage a very good chance if they do go through with it.  If it lasts 1-3 yrs. I will be surprised.  I am a Sr. citizen, celebrated out 50th wedding anniversary Sept. 28th and have a wonderful family and many wonderful friends and have seen alot in my lifetime and I have never heard anyone I know act like any of these people no matter how bad the situation is.  This marrigae SHOULD NOT take place at this time!
 
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November 8, 2007, 6:42 pm PST

Banned From The Wedding

Quote From: luluwailei

I am in the same situation. My son's girlfriend has treated me cruelly ever since she got pregnant. Before that I was not aware of any problem. But now she says I am mean and she treats me hatefully and keeps me from my granddaughter and son. My son tries to appease her because he loves her. I am frustrated with him because he does not stand up to her, because he would not want her to leave him. I love my son. We were always close, bvut I feel that if he must choose between his mother and his woman he must choose his woman. It breaks my heart every day. Our family is ripped apart. I believe her mother is behind her attitude and she was raised very differently than our family. I have apologized for anything I may have done which hurt her and tried to tell her I certainly never meant to. My husband and I have begged her and offered counseling or mediation but she is just as cold and unmovable as this Michele. It is unbelievable to me that these kind of girls are so selfish and disrespectful of the men they claim to love.

JAY AND MICHELLE!   I hope they read this message.   Jay  get a backbone.! Your Mother will be your mother FOREVER  for all ETERNITY  it is just so sad you can throw that love away so easily for such a bimbo and high maintenance drama girl that is really at the age of 12.  Michelle  is not considerate you or your feelings for  your or she would NEVER come between you and your mother.  NEVER!  Marriage at his point is doubtful it will last very many years.  Jay  you will one day wake up and find that your sweet beautiful (is what you think of her now) little Darling' will be big with baby and cranky and tired of doing (hopefully) housework and not expect you to come home from work and do it.  Marriage is a like Dr. Phil puts is a 100-100 cooperation and negotiations continually with how things run and I don't see Michelle negotiating anything she doesn't want to do.   Counseling is the only thing that will help if you two can go in with an OPEN mind that you are not perfect and have alot of flaws that need to be corrected.  I am sure Michelle is like this with other people too not just Jane.  That's usually the case.  I wonder what Michelle's friends and are like with her, with respecting others.  I hope they don't cave in to her and let her rule the roost all the time with her negative attitude.  She is such a spoiled young girl.

 

 
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January 19, 2008, 12:55 pm PST

Secrets In The Suburbs

Quote From: ramair

Renee is afraid, if she doesn't cave into Brent's demands that she join him in a threesome, he'll leave her. Is hanging onto that sicko pervert worth engaging in something that so obviously digusts her? She ought to stand her ground. If  Brent leaves Renee, he'll be doing her a favor. She ought to do herself the favor. By throwing that rotten fish back into the cess-pool.

I think it is SICK, SICK, SICK to even think of doing.  Renee I am like you I could NOT Ever, Never even share my husband with one other person let alone two others.  I KNOW for a fact you should NOT cave in to your husbands demand.  Leave HIM!  There are wonderful men that can't stand that sort of thing either. and you deserve the BEST in a marriage.  Men say they are primeavel and meant to share. Well woman Aren't.....A husband whom is completely yours in every way, especially in LOVE MAKING is the most precious and beautiful thing there is in a marriage don't sell yourself short.  I have to have LOVE MAKING not just CHEAP sex for my self worth and I think you do too.

Please Renee do not go that route when you so strongly oppose it.  You would be miserable and could get depressed and despondant over time with this kind of pressure put on YOU.  DON"T do it.  I have been very happily married for 50 years MAKING wonderful LOVE to my husband and have NO regrets.  I hope you will be able to do the same.

 
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July 13, 2008, 11:12 am PDT

Children HAVE to be believed!

Quote From: paula8147

Any time a child accuses a parent or stepparent of sexual abuse, I believe the other parent should believe  the child., especially the mother. We bring children into this world and it is our obligation to protect that child until he or she is old enough to protect themselves. A woman who chooses a husband over her child doesn't deserve to be a mother, in my opinion.

Dr. Phil,  I am so happy that you are such a WONDERUL advocate for children who cannot speak for themselves.  I was one of those little girls once.  We never miss your program. We have seen every show and all of the reruns. My husband and I make sure we are at home at 3:00 p.m. every day.  We are 70 and 71 yrs. old and can really relate to all of your programs that all of the problems people face.  YOU DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE!  Robin is a sweetie and such a HUGE support for you.  You go girl!   You are such a caring and wonderful man.  Keep up the good work.  GOD has groomed you for this work those yrs. in your legal practices.  Thank you so much for all you do.

Coming from a family that has sexual child abuse run amuke.  We couldn't tell any body and that ruined our lives in every aspect and changed who we are as a person.  Mothers, Fathers, grandparents, aunts, uncles, friends, of children that even slightly mention that they have been abused PLEASE HEAR THIS!  BELIEVE THE CHILD ALWAYS.  Alert the as many  authorities as you have to  until you get this child some HELP. Never stop until you do.  I cannot tell you how devastating it is to be sexually abused.  I was physically abused and then it was a mental abuse for the rest of my life until I was 50 yrs. old and my husband asked me what was wrong and he told me I had to get help.  I am so grateful as now I am 70 yr. old and am so much happier no more flashbacks.

GOD BLESS THESE LITTLE CHILDREN!  Please BELIEVE THEM ABOVE THE  "SOB"  of a male that has the access to this precious child or children.  This ALSO goes for PHYSICAL abuse as well.   Put those guys AWAY FOR GOOD.........

 

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