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November 9, 2007, 6:38 pm PST

Girls Mama needs to use Harsh words

QUESTION-  What part of "private conversation" between father and son did Dr. Phil ignore ?

ANSWER- ALL OF IT. 

           It wasn't bad enough the DOG becomes a victim of entrapment by his own PUP.  Dr. Phil attempted to bait and entrap him into a stage full of racist's.  

         Dr. Phil would have never subjected himself to the situation he tried to put the Dog into for a show if a child of Dr. Phil's baited him into word's. 

        The DOG did NOT say anything to anyone except his son HE HAS NOTHING TO APOLOGIZE FOR.  WHAT DOES A PRIVATE CONVERSATION BETWEEN FATHER & SON HAVE TO DO WITH A TELEVISION SHOW ABOUT PUTTING BAD GUYS AWAY ???   If JOHN WALSH WAS TAPED SAYING HARSH WORDS TO A FAMILY MEMBER IN ANGER, SHOULD HE HAVE HAD HIS SHOW TAKEN OFF THE AIR.  

       DR. Phil applauded a black group for NOT using foul language !   Applause for being decent, that was outrageous when being DECENT should be what is expected ??   I did NOT hear the racist Sharpton saying the black rappers should never be permitted to hold concerts due to their saying every vile thing decent humans wouldn't even think of.  But a man in a private conversation with his son should have a television show cancelled over it.  Dr. Phil ADDED to the problem instead of having a show on betrayal of family members that would have assisted many families.  STOP APOLOGIZING DOG - Just because your the breeder does not guarantee the puppy will behave when it gets older.  THAT IS THE ONLY LESSON YOU SHOULD HAVE LEARNED FROM THIS, YOU DID NOTHING WRONG.  FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND ESPECIALLY IN PRIVATE, WE DO LIVE IN AMERICA .  Sharpton and the rest of them need to get a real job.  What business is it of any one what anyone says to their family members in private.  The MOTHER OF THE GIRLWHO IS DATING DOGS PUPPY NEEDS TO USE EVEN HARSHER WORDS TO HER DAUGHTER TO GET HER AWAY FROM THE DOGS "PUPPY". DOES SHE WANT HER DAUGHTER WITH A KID WHO WOULD DOTHAT TO HIS OWN FATHER ???   WHAT WILL HE DO TO HER WHEN THEY HAVE A PROBLEM.  MAMA-SAVE YOUR DAUGHTER AND USE ANY WORDS YOU HAVE TO TO DO IT.   I AM WHITE, IF THE WORD CRACKER WAKES YOUR DAUGHTER UP TO SEE WHAT A SCOUNDREL DOGS SON IS, YOU HAVE THE BLESSING OF MY ENTIRE FAMILY TO USE WHAT EVER WORDS IT TAKES.  YOUR DAUGHTERS LIFE / FUTURE IS MORE IMPORTANT TO WHITE PEOPLE THAN ANY RACIAL WORDS YOU COULD EVER USE.    YOU HAVE THE BLESSING OF MY WHITE FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO SAY WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO TO GET HER AWAY FROM THE DOGS "PUPPY"..

 
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November 12, 2007, 4:15 am PST

11/09 Debate Dr. Phil and the Bishop

Quote From: ncrawler

You are part black but I wonder if you were raised with or without a racial identity.  I mean were you raised white or as just a citizen of the world, so to speak? 

 

First.  It is NOT ok with the black community to have rappers use the N word or refer to women as ....  well, you know.  People assume it is because THE RECORD COMPANIES pay huge sums of money to these artists to do just that.

 

AS far as white people standing up when they are called names...  Heck yeah!  They have every right to.  Be vocal about it!  Nobody says they can't...

 

White pageants and such:  Guess what that was the way of this country.  Many things were white only.  Blacks were not allowed to be in beauty pageants, attend universities, eat in certain restaurants, hell, even water fountains were segregated.  Now that our community has our own pageants, our own universities and scholorships (by the way even those are now becoming integrated - just so you know) white people want to cry foul!

 

The NAACP is an orgainzation established to advocate for black people in America at a time when we desperately needed advocacy.  They do speak out against rap lyrics and the image porttrayed by black artists.  The media just doesn't seem to want to cover it.

 

Dog's comments:  Yes, we have all said things that we would hope would never come to light.  Difference?  When you are a public figure, there is no private life.

R U KIDDING - LOL- Blame the record companies ?  The record companies would never pay them a nickel if the disgusting words weren't selling to black youth who were brain washed by their parents who didn't take time to teach them to be outraged and offended by the rap words instead of buying it and repeating along with the rappers.  Talk about being in denial, and blame anyone but themselves.
 
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November 12, 2007, 4:22 am PST

11/09 Debate Dr. Phil and the Bishop

Quote From: spectrum1944

 I also live in a trailer,  I have worked very hard for. It is my home! I have 4 girls and not one of them had a baby befor marriage. One own her own Bisness , two are R N's  and the other a C N A.  I am 63 years old and never been on welfair. Also never done drugs, and not a drinker. So WHO IS DR PHIL to juge me.  some of us could not aford more schooling.  are make the money for a T V show. ( RATEING )  May be that he should stop and look at thing he says!!!!!!!!!! What Differents is it to sterotyp People?
I have never lived in a trailer but with RECENT STATS OF 1 OF EVERY FOUR HOMELESS PERSONS BEING VETRANS - A TRAILER WOULD BE A WONDERFUL PLACE FOR PEOPLE WE SHOULD BE TAKING CARE OF !!  Dr. Phil is NOT the person Oprah origionally endorsed, that is for certain.  Oprah never allowed fame to change her but Dr. Phil's big money job sure has changed him (or brought out who HE REALLY IS). 
 
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November 12, 2007, 4:31 am PST

11/09 Debate Dr. Phil and the Bishop

Quote From: tnlady622

Shame on you, Dr. Phil, for placing Dog in such a position.  Of course he wouldn't want to come on the show with TD Jakes, Al Sharpton, and the other African American guests.  All that would have been accomplished would be for Dog to be attacked.

And I cannot believe that you would equate Dog's private conversation with his bratchild to what Don Imus did.  It's a sad day when we cannot have a private conversation with our children, no matter how public our lives may or may not be, and feel comfortable speaking our minds. I seriously doubt that's the first time the young lady has ever been called "n", and it won't be the last.  I'll be that Tucker has even said the "n" word before.

I think Dog was sincere with his son when he said he didn't want to lose everything they had worked so hard for over a situation where the girlfriend became offended because Dog or Beth or any of the inhabitants of Dog's PRIVATE RESIDENCE said the "n" word. He has seen what happened to Don Imus.

My theory is that I should be able to have my opiniion about anyone in the world. And if I choose to speak that opinion to someone in private, then my rights as an American should protect me.

I have read some of the postings on this subject this morning.  I agree with the guy from Auburn, AL who said that black people can call each other "n" but God forbid a white man or woman do it!  And I read the person who replied to that, but I don't buy the reply.  If I looked at one of my black friends (I am white, by the way) and called them "n", they wouldn't think any less of me.  But it's okay because they are my friend, right?  So why do African Americans assume because I use the word to describe someone of Negro ethnicity that I am degrading them or likening them to an animal? 

So don't be calling me Cracker, or Bitch.  Do you see my point?

And my comment about the Jena 6...I saw the show and noted that TD Jakes had contributed money to the defense fund for the 6 African American men, but did he bother to send any money to the white boy who was attacked by a GANG of black men?  Attacked for calling them names.  Would the attack have happened if there had been an even number of white boys?  I doubt it. 

When I was growing up, my family didn't have a lot of money.  My dad was a coal miner.  And I was fat.  so you can imagine the names I was called.  But the thought NEVER crossed my mind to get a bunch of my poor, fat friends to go attack the girl who called me names.

We all have things that make us different.  So why can we not find within ourselves the strength to accept those and not allow what other people say or think to affect us and  "act out" in a way that confirms their negative opinion of us?

 

1.) I do NOT believe any of the GUESTS were born in AFRICA and none of them act American.  The guests if they must be catagorized together are a bunch of racists against whites who do not want to work for a living thus, must scream everyone else is racist when they are more racist than any white person I have ever met.
 
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April 1, 2008, 3:26 pm PDT

Father died- "sensitive machine 'would have saved dad.

So grateful Dr. Phil made this topic for show.  Had this been brought to our attention  m father did not have to die last yesr.  I'm from Cleveland Ohio.  My Dad and my cousins wifesdad BOTH DIED SAME THING SAME WEEKFAIRVIEW HOSPITAL.  We learned too late there ARE ONLY THREE PLACES /HOSPITAL that have a SENSITIVE MACHINE'  it checks to find which antibiotics will work.  Hospitals are Cleveland Clinic (downtown ONLY-sister hospitals do NOT have the machine and they do NOT send the bloodtests downtown Cleve clinic) Suma and I forgot the third.  People should check in advance what hospitals in their area have this machine so they don't risk their lives by going to a hospital that does not use this machine.   Without the machine the hospitals waste time changing antibotics trying to see which one will work.  Dad was at Fairview Hospital (sister hosp of Cleve clinic) they NEVER sent his blood to the downtown clinic to be tested on this', SENSITIVE MACHINE'and' it cost my dad his life !!!!! 

 Dad's only signs were being lathargic (tired often).   He went to the doctor and they did not catch it.  By the time they did it was too late.  He was on drip antibiotics at home first week (also BAD idea-wasted valuable time). 

 
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April 1, 2008, 3:39 pm PDT

save your hus-make some calls

Quote From: jblotz237

Apparently it is worse than everyone thinks...because my husband was told back in Nov. 07 that his head was infected with the superbug...and was given no medication.  Then in Feb. 08 I had to return him to the urgent care and again was told his culture came back positive.  He was then given Doxycycline Hyclate and was given a 20 day supply.  According to the doctors here in AZ, we all that live in Az are carriers and was also told that it has been around for at least 5 years.  It was until kids started dying  did it come into the news.  Now we just go day to day hoping that that sore does not return.  According to my husband he didn't become infected until after they did a minor plastic surgery on his finger from a bite of a brown recluse.  Here in AZ. the doctor's do not seem to think that it isn't as bad as we are hearing about on the news...My husband is only 40 yrs. old and we are newlyweds and I am hoping for a very long life with him and I will as long as he is on his prescription but what happen when the medication expires???

Arizona has sister hospital to the Ohio Cleveland Clinic - There is a machine called a 'sensitive machine' it checks your blood with a ton of antibiotics at the same time to find out which one will  work.  There are only three hospitals here with the blood/antibiotic testing machine.   The  sister hospitals here do not have the machine only Cleveland Clinic downtown (main clinic) time is not on anones side with this.  My dad and my cousinswifes dad both died last year.  Watch if your husband gets tired alot.   Make him go to another doctor and call every hospital& find which one has the machine that checks blood test against many antibiotics.  Good Luck, I wish your husband long life- careful very contagious.  
 
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October 29, 2008, 5:18 pm PDT

10/29 Gender Confused Children

Quote From: pipro1

I want to let everyone know that I grew up with feelings of being attracted to men and I am a man. I did my best, and was able to conceal my feelings and no one even knew. I had a decent upbringing, but I really wish I chould have been who I was. Now that I am older, I am so much happier being gay, and I am sure that Gender Confused Childer, ( at a certain age) would be much better off and happier being who they are. Society eventually will not look down on this (differant sexual preferances) and I can only hope it will be in my life time to see how happy these people will be.
This is obvious brainwashing if you look deeper.  This child is not saying they want to do it due to any ATTRACTION to the same sex.  That is a different issue than a child who liked a female outfit.  The mother is putting make up on an eight year old child.  Most parents would never permit make up for a female eight year old.  I understand what you are saying but it is really different if you look deeper.
 
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October 29, 2008, 5:28 pm PDT

Have you ever asked deeper question's ?

Quote From: strawberrycake

I actually agree with the 1st mother a lot. I have a boyfriend who is going through this and he has been depressed about it for years and thought about suicide. He is finally going to a therapist and trying to figure out what he wants to do about it. We have been together for years and I had no idea that he felt this way until a few months ago. Some people feel so ashamed of this and hide it from people their whole lives and then it really hurts them and their relationships with others. I think at the very least that parents should be open with their kids on this subject if it gets brought up and not to oppress their child's feelings. It can lead to a long struggle of pain and heartache if they are not open to it as it did and is still doing to my boyfriend. It is hard for me and sometimes, I feel like I'm really confused as well, being that he doesn't know which way he wants to go with things. It is really hard when you have learned to identify someone a certain way and then for them to change that. I am trying to be as accepting as I can but I was brought up much differently and maybe the way a child is brought up can have something to do with this topic. Although I feel that telling the child that they are absolutely wrong and bulling them is the wrong way to deal with these things. Obviously people don't change that much from when they are children or else my boyfriend would have had a change of heart but he didn't and he is 27 now.
Have you ever asked him if and how old he was when he was abused.  People do not really change but circumstances people do not invite like abuse happen upon them.  I am not saying this is what happened but it's always worth "an ask" to really know the entire transformation of feelings and if there were outside factor's that caused unplanned differences that are embarrassing and hurt forever.
 
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October 29, 2008, 6:16 pm PDT

What you wear & who you do are not the same

I To the many homosexuals who are responding.  The subject was not about an eight year old child who thought from the time they were three years old that they might be homosexual.  The subject was a child who's mother / parent's are clearly brainwashing the child and calling their behavior "neutering" by  decorating the room of their son 'girlie' and going so far to even putting make up on an eight year old boy and making homemade tapes to say the child wants other children to know it's ok what he is doing as no one has informed him that he will suffer dearly in middle school and all to boost the quest of the parent's.

It appears to me the parents harbor guilt feelings over what they are doing and in need of strokes of confirmation because subconsciously they know they have screwed up. 

       As for my personal experience with the actual subject; I made comment's that I wished I was a boy and wanted to wear boys clothes.  In the 60's we females could only wear dresses to school, we had to wear pants under our dresses on snow days & take them off when we got to school, a real pain. I wanted to wear boys tennis shoes, boots, boys toys ect.  I was supposto act ladylike but was a tom-boy anyway aka; obnoxious female.   THANK GOD MY PARENTS REFUSED TO "NUTURE" MY REQUESTS and I became me anyway.  I wanted to dress like the boys got to I WAS NOT ATTRACTED TO GIRLS.  It is two very different subjects.  In my early 20's I became a high fashion model, married a high profile politician and  and have four incredible children.  Today I wear timberland boots & jeans daily and dress as the lady I am when I appear to dinners.  If my parents went insane trying to NUTURE MY WANTS, IT WOULD HAVE DESTROYED MY HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL YEARS & CHANGED WHO " I AM".  These parents went overboard & the child's schol years are guarantted to be a nightmare & the little boy who is trying to make his parents happy, will suffer and pay for it forever. 

 
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October 29, 2008, 6:46 pm PDT

10/29 Gender Confused Children

Quote From: shauna3930

Let me explain who I am and let you figure out what I should do?
I was born with an extra chromosome I am 47 XXY, Intersex with a partial uterus, one ovary, one testes, as well as a penis. By the age of 14 I had grown breasts on top of that I was a male. Hmm rough huh? I went into hiding then, in the society then what could I do. There were no Dr Phil's. I am 47 now transitioning into that woman god forgot to finish. Why you are asking? I am 89% female and in premenopause and my wrapper is 11% male. So Dr Phil what do you suggest I should do now. Now remember God doesn't make mistakes.

Should I transition my gender, what gender was that?
That is a whole show on it's own and you read as though you are the perfect candidate to be on the show.  Your story may very well assist many people.  The subject today was not your subject.  It was parents brainwashing their child and putting their child on tv to attempt to validate the parents problem and issues, this was not even the childs problem.  The parents are giving the child a problem.  You really should ask Dr. Phil those question's on his show.  I'm interested to hear Dr. Phils answers on your question's.  God is whoever the believer believes he or she is and the rules change with the walking into the various houses of worship.  No God makes mistakes, that would ruin belief's.  Reproduction isn't perfect for anyone.  Everyone wishes they had different nose, lips, hips, chest, height.  The parts you must deal with aren't as common but that does not mean you are any less perfect.  If you forget that, then that would be your only imperfection.  You cannot find anyone who does not wish some part of them had not been reproduced differently.  Good Luck and hope to see your story on the show.
 

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