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January 25, 2008, 4:56 pm PST

Sigh! No good reason to get naked with strangers

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I agree with you on that.  It seems to me that it is better to know and trust the people with whom you and your spouse are having sex than to have them be interlopers into your marriage as the result of a hasty decision.

 

I also think you are correct that the stigma comes from our social background.  Thousands of years of social conditioning do not go away overnight! 

 

Affairs have been in the forefront of knowledge long enough that while people can condem them, they can also understand and justify them, ie. she was treating him poorly, he was just a scoundrel etc.  Swinging is so new to most people that they have not yet come up with a reasoning system that will allow them to cope with the idea.  Why the concept "we trust each other and it is a mutual decision" is hard to understand I am not sure of yet. 

As far as I know of there is no good reason to get naked with someone who is not your husband or wife. 

 

I don't accept any excuses for extramarital affairs and in my opinion that is what the lifestyle is.  How many times has a man screwed around only to say "I don't love her". 

 

Disgusting and demoralizing behavior.  I just think it is gross these women and men who have all these different people all over them.  GROSS!!!

 

How can you kiss the lips of your spouse after they have been on someone else's lips, and other places they may have been? 

 

It's all affairs to me.  I'd never get naked with anyone but my husband (okay my doctor sees me that way every once in a blue moon, but SHE isn't looking for recreation).

 

Gross to all you scuzy looser types slurping all over each other.  Gross!  I am glad you guys keep it your little secret b/c there's about 8 million people I'd have nothing to do with if I knew how easy it is for them to get naked with people who aren't their spouse.

 
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January 25, 2008, 5:03 pm PST

That's not trust, that's not caring

Quote From: jules1965

My husband and I have been swinging going on 5 years.

My family is aware of it as are my grown adult children, even my MOTHER.

 

I think what shocked my mother (think old school'what would the neighbors think?)

So I went to a popular swing site, typed in my zip code, put in a 50 mile radius and viola, up popped over 500 couples......there mom, that's what my neighbors think.

She was aghast of course that so many people were swinging, not that my husband and I swing.

 

The thing about swinging is, there must be 110% agreement between the couple if they are wanting to try this.

They must be 2000% committed to their MARRIAGE.

They must set clear and unbreakable RULES for swinging, any violation of the rules and the swinging ends or the marriage will.

 

Protect yourself at all times, from pregnancy, disease, weirdos.

Never go with strangers, always get to know the people first (phone, internet, safe place to meet for the 1st time)

 

Swinging has not harmed our marriage whatsoever. We've had 3 somes (MFM and FMF as well as couples MF/MF)

If swinging has done anything to our marriage it has strengthened it, we have more trust for each other, our sex life..........well......just RULES!

 

We are open with each other, no secrets, no lying, the trust is amazing!! If both of us don't agree to a situation 110%.......we leave, simple as that.

 

Nobody can enter our marriage, they may enter our bed but not our marriage. We are a team and will remain until death do us part.

 

Swinging is absolutely NOT for everyone.

No partner should feel threatened, forced, or guilted into doing anything they do not want to do!

 

The couple coming on the show where the wife doesnt want to do it but feels pressure from her husband and is scared he'll leave if she doesn't go along with him.......

Face it, there are much deeper problems than just if his 'needs' or 'wants' aren't met or she doesnt do what HE wants to do.

 

Some people are not into swinging nor ever will be. It isn't right for everyone. (though the numbers are so high that fact has room for argument!)

 

One thing swinging has given us is a much deeper understanding of each other, has enhanced a very wonderful sex life too.

 

Mind you, this isn't an everyday thing or we spend time cruising, we're part timers......if we find a nice couple fine, if not, fine too.

Its been a year since we swung but we move across country and have been busy....if the mood strikes we'll search for like minded adults and see where it goes......our lives are not consumed by swinging, only positively enhanced  our marriage, IN and OUT of the bedroom.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I love how all the swingers say they completely "trust" their spouses.  LOL!!! That isn't trust that is simply not caring.

 

Your spouse does not care that you want to screw someone else and you don't care that your spouse wants to screw someone else.  You don't care a whole lot about each other.

 

Please...If you are a swinger and have been so for a long time and your spouse has turned very sick, handicapped, and needs your help to (get out of bed, wipe their hiny etc) speak up now.

 

I want to know how many swingers really grow old together.  You guys aren't going to stick it out and be there in the golden years still swinging or even talking about your escapades while you swing the only way you can on a porch swing. 

 

Where are all the swingers who are old?  They are divorced, not with that person anymore.  I don't think you guys who do this in your marriages love each other enough to be the person who is wiping the other's bottom when/if the time comes you  have to do t hat.  You don't care for each other that way.

 

 

 
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January 25, 2008, 5:10 pm PST

Why not enjoy it?

Quote From: laydeejuls

I never used to believe in the swingers lifestyle until one day I tried it. What I do now is no ones business but mine. If Im not making it public then who are other people to judge. Im not setting a bad example for my kids. THEY DO NOT SEE IT AT ALL!!!!! I do not do anything in front of them. I am a single parent and am entitled to have a little adult time no matter what it maybe. The way I look at it is "Dont knock it until you try it".  You only live once so why not enjoy yourself in the meantime.

 

 

--enjoying lifes pleasures

I am enjoying my life just fine without getting naked and acting like cheap trash with strangers.

 

There are more ways to enjoy life than having sex.  I guess a lot of folks are just sex addicts and have gone off the deep end with their desires.

 

Why not just enjoy life and do whatever you want?  How about judgement in the afterlife.  I guess the swinger thing is just for those who don't believe in that though,  that doesn't insulate you from the fire?

 

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