Messages By: ummsamir

Oh my God, this man doesn't love her at all. I am Palestinian too and I know how the Palestinians in Gaza strip are living they are looking for any chance to leave Gaza. I believe that Kathrien is very good opportunity to help Abdullah to have American passport and to live in USA in the future.

There are some Islamic groups in Gaza who try to converts the Christians to Islam and persecute the Christians and hate the Americans for being aggressive to us by giving power to Israel.

Last several months a Christian was killed in Gaza strip, his guilt is being Christian serving Christ. I believe that Abdullah is using Katherine and she has to return to her homeland. Love is not everything in the world. Her love to him will not protect her and keep her safe from him. Go to Gaza and you will understand much more. She is in danger indeed. She need somebody to help her.

Probably not all of them do but I have heard many muslim men on the internet call western women these names. If a woman has sex before marriage then they "assume" them to be sluts.

Our cultures could not be further apart if we were on different planets.

Parents complain about the lyrics of some music, and bad offensing language on tv shows and movies. People, do you not realise that this what some people in other countries think is the "normal" way to behave in the United States? What else do they have to go by? If they have not had the chance/opportunity to travel? To visit the US? Why would they think otherwise?

I am sure there are people living in rural America who have the wrong idea about large cities like LA and NY.

Yes, some people think using the words b..., and wh... , f..., and m/f... is how people converse in the United States.  After all, they do watch Chris Rock, and listen to explicit music!

I TOTALLY AGREE!  You know, considering that most American women practice "their right" to fight back, it shocks me that an arab man would ever want one.  They think women are to be completely submissive and not say a word.   On the other hand, it may not have anything to do with being American or not.  They may just seek the ones that are easily minipulated into being brain washed.  It is very clear that Katherine is one of those women.   I don't believe FOR A SECOND that he's with her to get his greencard!  If he were, he wouldn't have taken two years.  I strictly think he wanted a young, naive girl he could abuse, like the rest.  I also believe once he got her to Palistine or wherever, he thought he had the "cat in the bag" until Dr. Phil stepped in.  I may take a lot of smack for this one from a lot arabs/muslims and those married to them but it's my "rightful" opinion as an AMERICAN WOMAN.

Do you know what "in context means"? It means IN ARABIC, with the explanation from the scholars (people who are studied in Islam, jurisprudence, fiqh, Arabic language, history, etc) based on the hadith that show when the verse was revealed and what was happening when it was revealed. That is the context I am talking about not the verse that comes before and the verse that comes after the one Valeria is referring to.

The "hunting of Jews" is based on a specific battle fought between the Muslims and a specific Jewish tribe. This is an established historical fact and anyone who has actually studied Islam knows that this was not a mandate for all time but for a specific tribe who broke a treaty with the Muslims. Do you want me to find the actual hadith on the subject? BTW, I am not hiding the fact that God commanded those to fight against this tribe but it was a specific case as I mentioned.

I already posted tons of stuff on beating women. It is ludicrous and not supported by the Quran or any hadith. Period.

There is also no text about "killing infidels" in the Quran in fact it talks about the EXACT opposite. I have also posted several statements on this with verses from the Quran. Search my name and you can see those.

No one Muslim omits verses from the Quran. This is considered leaving the fold of Islam. That is definitely NOT what I am saying or have said in these posts.

The Quran is the revelation given to Muhammad in Arabic anything else is not the Quran. This is a major difference between Islam and specifically Christianity as you mentioned. We do not have the right to attempt to change Islam because we might not like something. This then turns from worship of God to worship and following one's own desires.

As a convert, I can tell you that people convert after VERY serious study. It is not a lifestyle you adopt just for a change in atmosphere, to snag a man or whatever crazy ideas people may have out there. It is about true belief and when we have questions we can ask a knowledgeable person whether at the mosque or otherwise and there are always answers to those questions. Those answers are based on PROOF. There is a huge emphasis on this in Islam. No one can say something about Islam without textual evidence. The textual evidence is Quran and hadith (recorded sayings and actions of the Prophet).

It is very frustrating for me to think about this story. On one hand there is a very arrogant, immature girl playing grown-up and she has done something incredibly stupid.  For that, I understand the pain her family is going through.  On the other hand, how the heck did this happen in the first place? Why didn't this mother know what her daughter was doing at 16 years old? Why was this girl allowed to spend so much time on the Internet and on the phone without the mother knowing what she was doing and who she was talking to? This parent is lacking and should have been paying more attention to what her child was doing.  It is so frustrating that she clearly neglected her daughter and then when her daughter did something stupid, she runs to Dr. Phil to fix her parenting problems.  I don't mean to sound so harsh but this is a story we hear time and time again.  It's two-fold, this is not the first girl to get sucked in by a Middle-Eastern man and get trapped in a land that is an enemy of our country.  Americans are not liked throughout the world and we can't just go where ever we want, especially not women.  These people need to stop being so arrogant and thinking that Americans can do whatever we want.  It's not true and many people out there want to kill us.  Love does not protect Christian Americans on the Gaza Strip.  The idea that we can go there either shows how stupid or arrogant we can be.  The second problem is children on the Internet getting into grown-up problems and the parents have no idea what is going on. Why do these children have so many privileges?  Parents, you decided to give birth and infect the Earth with these people for the rest of us to deal with, so raise them and pay attention to what they are doing or don't have them at all.  This situation is ridiculous and should not have happened in the first place.  I hope this story will make more parents stand up and pay attention to what their children are doing on the Internet.  Kids do not need computers in their bedrooms and they shouldn't be online all hours of the day and night.  Spoiling your children can get you in this same situation and I think we can all agree it is not worth it.  I also hope this story will make people realize that there are places we don't belong and we need to stay away from those places instead of making trouble that the tax payers have to clean up. 

I hope this girl comes home alive.  I hope she is not brainwashed and her family can get through to her.  I hope the abuse she has suffered has been minimal, because face it she has been abused so we can't fool ourselves.  I just hope her wounds will heal and she will wise up and realize she needs to grow up and act responsibly.

Can we agree that the word "muslim" is NOT describing a race but in fact a religious choice?

Why do you keep accusing people of racism?

I concur.  WHY is it racist [to disagree?  I've seen this (racist reference) several times on these boards.  Why couldn't we leave race out of it?  There's enough other "stuff"...  Meanwhile, a girl has made a horrible mistake, one that she'll probably regret for the rest of her life.

Here we go again - playing the "race" card...   And as always, it clouds other issues.

I know exactly what the dictionary says "context" means.

Sounds like "in context" for Islam has it's own meaning.  And, unless a person reads the Quran in Arabic, and without "explanation from the scholars (people who are studied in Islam, jurisprudence, fiqh, Arabic language, history, etc.)", based on the hadith, they are taking it out of context.  Why then is the Quran translated into English or other languages?

A person can simply read other religions' books without all this, and in different languages/translations. 

BTW, no one has the right to change Christianity and no one can change Christianity.  Also, one can get a very good understanding of the Bible without reading it in the original languages, Hebrew (Torah and rest of Tanakh) or Greek (New Covenant).

Perhaps you and others (scholars) should teach what you've said to those who call themselves Moslems and take the violence of the Suras literally or whole countries (Islamic) whose cultural practices either transcend or ignore Quran or take it literally, or perhaps rather than "literally" your wording would be "out of context'.  World terrorism that is associated with Islam would stop--perhaps.

Why have not the millions (or the billion) of peaceful, non-violent Moslems put a stop to the highjacking of this religion by  the "few" radicals and extremists?  If a "few" persons of other religions highjacked a religion (let's just say Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, etc.) and caused a bad name for it throughout the civilized world by violent acts of terrorism against other nations and through practices that are abhorred in that religion, I believe their religious leaders would speak out to them and against them and seek to repair the damage.  I believe they would publicly distance themselves from the terrorists, particularly after major attacks.  I believe they would go on the airwaves, place adds in newspapers, magazines, etc., develop many web sites, blog on websites, volunteer to speak at schools and places of worship, whatever it takes to dispel the notion that their religion is one of violence.  When we don't speak up, it appears we are in agreement.  At least you are speaking out on these boards about some issues...