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December 29, 2007, 1:27 pm PST

KAYLA IS BRAVE AND STRONG.

Quote From: kaylakristine

It's a long story.. and the show hasn't aired, so I don't want to give it away. When you watch it, you'll see why I wanted to confront him!!!!!!!! EXACTLY WHY!!!!!!!

I got ahold of them to help me find him. I did know he was homeless... a couple film makers made a movie about him, glorifying his life style. I'm an adult and it was my decision.. not my mothers, not Dr. Phils.

Think of it this way.. I've been SILENT for 17 yrs.. I think it's my turn to finally speak up, is it not?

And why the heck do people think I want his money? WHAT MONEY!??? Do you think you get paid for being homeless? What the heck people, get real!!!!! I HAVE MY OWN MONEY, I'm a nurse, I don't need his beer money for the day, he can keep that.

Just watch the whole story before you guys start sticking up for this pathedic individual... Did you ever wonder why HIS SON wasn't shown in the previews of this show............................................................

Kayla, I wish more people would confront their reality like you did on the show! If people were as BRAVE AS YOU then the world would be a Healthier place.Kayla years ago I researched people that live the [HOBO] lifetyle and I found that MOST of these folks are in this lifestyle because they are emotionally damaged and resist REALITY.They are _not_brave like you KAYLA :0) These Hobos tend to fear reality and they run away physically from responibility.WORST of all they run away from the [TRUTH and GOOD MENTAL HEALTH].Kayla,I must tell you that I am a man that knows it is NOT OK to physically _or_emotionally abandon children.I APPOLIGIZE for your dad.I'm sorry that you and your brother did not get what KIDS need and you suffered as a result.I know you will strive to be a Healthy parent, I can SEE THAT IN YOU Kayla./

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April 1, 2008, 8:31 pm PDT

IF THE STANDART MEDICAL ANTIBIOTICS FAIL

May I talk about GARLIC that you can (purchase in a grocery store) and it's proven ANTIBIOTIC effect and ANTI VIRAL effects on the body.I say scientific because Millions of dollars have been spent on the study of garlic.As a child in the 1960's I was very sceptical as my grandmother would make medical claims about the healing power of ordinary smelly garlic from the grocery store.Then in the early 1990's I heard scientic claims from medical studies that have now made me a convert.When Garlic was put in medical dishes containing Bacteria the Garlic killed every tpye of bacteria.It appears that the only reason that doctors can't reconmend that you take several cloves of __FRESH uncooked Garlic__ for an Antibiotic is that it's _NOT_ recognized as an approved FDA drug.Although,I've come to understand that Garlic was used as an Antibiotic by the Russians durring WW 11to treat infections.A word of caution to any patient that wishes to use it medically to treat infection #1)TELL your doctor that you plan to take 5 fresh cloves of Garlic in the AM and 5 more again in the PM .[ in combination with his treatments]. If Garlic odor is a problem then take __KWAI Garlic Tabs ___that they use in scientific studies due to consistency of it's strength.KWAI is sold in most HEALTH FOOD STORES or on the internet.A possible side effect of KWAI Tabs is constupation that may occur from the binding adgents in the Tabs. 2) Never assume that all Herbs and plants are safe because many deaths occur every year from pharmacy perscriptions that are mixed with supposedly harmless herbs from the local Health Food store.Now I'll tell you about my experience with Garlic and INFECTION.Years ago,my wife was getting reacurring face infections and her Doctor wanted to put her on Antibiotics.I new that the Antibiotics would work but __continuous use of antibiotics__ also kill the good bacteria in your diggestive track that we all require for healthy diggestion.I did my research and suggested Garlic but he is required by law to order standard Antibiotics.Can't blame a him because he could lose his license if he made such a reconmendation but I wanted to tell him what we were planning to test out due to my research.We tried the Standard Antibiotics for 10 days and the Infection was cleared up.Then two months later the face infection returned so she took now tried 5 KWAI white Garlic tabs and 5 Tabs in the PM.Raw uncooked Garlic cloves are best but she wanted to avoid breathe odour {DUE TO HER PUBLIC RELATIONS JOB} Anyways just like the standard Antibiotic drugs she used the Garlic worked and 10 days later she was infection free.Had her stop the Garlic Tabs and about 2 months later her skin infections returned.The next time she stayed on the 10 Tabs a day for 12 months and wiped the infection out completely.That was 10 years ago and no more reacurring face infections..I had to pass on this info because of that 18 year old girl that can no longer tolerate antibiotics but doesn't wish to live in fear and feel powerless.My SINGLE EXPERIENCE doesn't prove anything conclusively in science world but it's worth a try.Hopefully the MRSA will not be able to resist the compounds of Garlic that nature has created with perfection.It could take 12 months or perhaps even years to completely clear the MSRA out of your body ? I would suggest you stay close to your doctor and do constant medical visits for proper medical testing to see if the infection is clearing up over the next year so. LAST CAUTION [People under 16 can NOT tolerate ___large amounts___ of Garlic - please consult a Pediatritian !]

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April 4, 2008, 6:03 am PDT

I DON'T THINK YO WERE LISTENING !!

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I think Dr. Phil was a little too harsh today. I agreed with SOME of the things the mom did and the way she treated her daughter (that's called being a good parent). I think more parents need to be like her. Too many parents today are NOT involved in their childs life, and they end up on the streets, doing drugs, pregnant, or in jail. I do think that she could back off a little, but I would MUCH rather see a mom like this than to see one that could care less about their child.

So, I say God Bless that mother for actually being a caring parent.

Look first of all they call him [Doctor] Phil because he went to school for 7 years and has 30 years experience.He doesn't just take a case and throw darts at a board to evaluate the situation.He has a team of EXPERTS on an ADVISORY counsel that review each case.All that aside what were talking about here we people dealing with EXTEME OVERINDULGENT PARENTING.Exteme ___neglect___ parenting is were a parent lets a child do whatever they want to do even if it is dangerous or unhealthy.Example a 12 year old girl can stay out till 1:00 am on a school night or steal from the parents without consequences.Extreme ___over indulgent___ parenting that you saw on the show create anxiety ,tension,anger,lack of confidence and a host of other mental health problems in their children.Any time you act in ways that are EXTREME you move into an area that is UNHEALTHY.I should know as I was the child of one of those OVERINDULGENT PARENTS in the 60's and 70's and I have the mental health issues to show for it.It has taken years of therapy and medication to finally find some balance and peace.

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April 4, 2008, 6:37 am PDT

IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE END RESULT !!

I grew up with that parent that wanted to live vicariuosly through me.Doctor Phil is[ right on the money ]when he calls this a form of abuse.By grade 2 I needed speach therapy for nervous studdering.I had no confidence because all I ever heard were criticisms and that became my internal dialogue. As the years went on I could not get approval so became a people pleaser to get any form of attention.since i didn't get unconditional love from that male parent I felt worthless and had self loathing.As the mother did my friends were also picked which is VERY disrespectful and WRONG !I later developed an Anxiety disorder and nervous stomach.I couldn't concentrate in school so my marks were poor which further hurt my Self Esteem.I developed an internalized anger because that parent was always angry and critical.I began to use drugs in my teens and alcohol to numb the years of child abuse from the OVER INDULGENT PARENT.So when people write that doctor Phil "was too tough on the well meaning parent" I say he was TOO KIND !! It is only by the grace of god that I graduated from 2 Colleges,scored with a high IQ,recieved years of therapy to undo some damage and rebuild my self image.I even found a beautiful wife that loves me unconditionally and a high paid Government job......A note to parents ....#1)If you failed in your childhood then get therapy or do something about it don't make your kid "your experiment" #2) God makes every child perfect as they are and he gives them all PASSIONS and ABILITIES so don't tamper with the package. #3)Just try to set rules and limits and give UNCONDITIONAL LOVE so they can blossum into the person god made them to be.

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April 4, 2008, 7:19 am PDT

CONSIDER THIS ??

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You people that keep telling the women on this show that they are pushing their kids to be perfect are trying to spin the show the fit your issue. These Mom's are trying to do and be the best for their kids. I sense more of insecurity by the posters on this message board about than anything else. Look at your own self, are you overweight, unsuccessful, unhappy?! You probably are. Leave these women alone. I agree that there are parents with mediocre values, who raise children with mediocre standards. I live in an area where I can even find close to my equal or my kids equal, in anything. I am not boasting..I am complaining about the complacency of parents these days. Stop complaining about other parents who do their best so you can feel content with your laziness.

HEALTHY LIES IN THE MIDDLE..No one is telling people it's ok to be parents to be passive,negligent and uncaring.What people are saying including the GOOD DOCTOR is overindulgince is unhealhty and negligence is unhealthy. pick parenting that is something in the middle.Your child is not supposes to be an extension of your ego.

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July 2, 2008, 7:06 am PDT

YOU ARE NOT ALONE !!

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I just watched the show of inappropriate in-laws. I thought i was the only daughter in the world with this extream of a problem between my mother and husband. I have not had any contact with my mother in 4yrs. It was the hardest thing i have ever had to do, but felt it was nessasary to keep my children safe from her emotional havoc and to save my marriage. I watched with my eyes wide in the statements that were made by Bambi. My mother has made the same remarks, everything is my husbands fault, she is never to blame and an innocent victim always. At the same time she rails that she will "win" in the end, with him dead or in jail, and the children turning away from us. I live in termoil everyday. How can you love someone, but be unable to let them be a part of you life? We are to have forgivness in our hearts. I have forgiven her for the fact that she is mentally unstable and needs help to heal. But is it true forgiveness if I cant let her in our lives? I also fear her. I know what she is capable of and am afraid that she will in fact get to my children and "poison" them. I also fear that she will do something someday to my husband. My heart aches for Kendra. I felt every bit of her pain as I watched her on the show. She is a strong woman and I wish her all the best. No matter what that may be. Letting her mother back in or keeping her out. The letter she wrote Bambi was so true and close to me that it felt as though I had wrote it myself.

Much like Kendra I have watched my wife try to deal with her mother for the last 29 years.Kendra and my wife could be sisters and VERY kind loving people despite the insanity they have dealt with growing up.When a child grows up with a raging insane parent they say nothing except what the angry unstable person wants to hear.My mother inlaw also has a memorial shrine in rememberance of the daughter {she could no longer control} after we became married.Her mother also uses words like "WIN" in her vocabulary of instability and competition.Sane people don't try to "WIN" in relationships because healthy people realize that relatioships are not about [control and dominance].As a son inlaw that has been in Adams position for almost 30 years and fearing for his safety I became sick of the abuse 3 years ago and gave up.I can give Adam some advice that worked for me.Take your family and RUN or have her charged and committed___if___Bambi doesn't get therapy and act in a non violent way.Doctor Phil often says that you can predict future behavior form past behavior and that has been SO TRUE in our dealings with Mommy Dearest.

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July 2, 2008, 7:54 am PDT

VIOLENCE AND DEATH THREATS ARE ILLEGAL

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I took exception to the way Bambi was treated on this show. What your editors protrayed was not likely the whole story. It was terribly one sided.

No one cared to delve into what this woman has been through. The pain that drove her to prepare "mock" graves in her backyard was not discussed. This show simply showed the ugly side of a mother's dilema and protrayed her as a "nut case".

I remember one show not too long ago where Dr. Phil talked about children coming home with stories that poison the well (the minds of their family) and when the incident is over they expect their family to drink from the well. That is what I see in this show.

I understand the depth of the pain she has suffered and is suffering at the hands of her daughter. I watched her daughter's facial expressions as she answered the few questions put to her directly. I was lo looking for any sign of compassion for her mother. There was none there.

In my opinion, this daughter best remember that what goes around comes around and now that she is a mom, she will soon know the pain a child can give to their parents.

You can have many husbands in this life, you can have many children, but remember, you only have one mother.

The problem was that Bambi could not explain her violent and illegal behavior.Bambi spoke for 80% of the show and she could not account for her DANGEROUS violent thoughts and actions.If she ends up in front of a judge someday he isn't going to be a nice and understanding LIKE---> doctor Phil is.Of course Bambi is a bitter and contolling person with lots of pain.But being in pain and assulting your son inlaw for no reason and making death threats can not be tollerated in a society that is civilized.The reason Bambi could not explain her behavior is because the behavior is NOT sane,rational or logical.I am glad that you feel empathy for Bambi but her daughter wasn't without a ton of pain either.The letter to her mother said "I LOVE YOU MOM" but I also LOVE my husband and your violent behavior is unacceptable in so many words.

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July 4, 2008, 5:33 am PDT

DON'T WAIST THE MONEY !

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I believe that you can buy something just like this at Home Depot and/or Sears Hardware....I used it last time I painted...it really didn't work too well; paint dripped behind it.

I tried a device like that as I hate taping off areas so I can paint.The problem is that paint gets on the device and gets all over the baseboards and other areas.IT MAKES MORE WORK for you cleaning off the device and baseboards.Much like get rich schemes there is no short cut for taping off areas that I know of.

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July 4, 2008, 7:08 am PDT

THE TRUE MARK OF SOCIOPATHS

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i wanted too let people know the money scaming isnt only on email. iam on yahoo and i get asked from people the same thing cashing checks and send them the rest.. watch out they talk too you and want too be friends for a while then they ask......sherry_4244041

That's how the Sociopath works in my opinion.They get beyond your boundries and find your needs and desires.If your GEEDY they promise to make you rich with "easy money".If you desperately want LOVE or ATTENTION becuase you are lonely they promise you friendship.They have {NO GUILT} hence the term "Sociopath".Read books on these people and you will spot the Sociopathic patterns of these sicko's and be able to spot them in your family,neighborhood ,career or on the web.

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July 4, 2008, 8:21 am PDT

YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT.

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It was so wonderful to hear that a marriage has survived this insanity. We have been married for many years, yet after all that time she can still bring so much tention to our lives even though we have "cut her out" I had to see an lawyer 4 yrs ago to stop her. Still there are instances that she is around that we have had to deal with. One being only a month ago when she of course caused a seen with my husband at a very public place. Threats flew from her about what she would do when the day came that she would be in touch with our childeren- "and it will happen" Our children are still small, so right now it is easy to control who they are in contact with, but i know this will change as they get older. Any advice for that? We have been open with them and NEVER speak ill of her in their presence. I will never play the mind games that she did. I feel I am a pretty good mother IN SPITE of my upbringing. . I credit my father for my will to be a good parent, wife, member of the community. We have thought about picking up and moving away, but I cant do that due to other family members. I can't deprive my children of extended family that loves them very much because of their grandmother that really, if the truth be told, now only wants them so that she can "win" Thru the lawyer she was told that I did not wish this to be forever, she had to make the first step and get help then contact me-she has not done this. Now after all this time I dont think I even want that after realizing how peaceful and enjoyable life can be without constant worry and stress. Holidays are WONDERFUL, I hated them before. Just and invitation to chaos, cheap shots, insults, and making me misserable.

She is trying to [CONTROL you with FEAR] so you feel vulnerable and insecure.Much like she probably did to you in your childhood ? I can see that you are a very wise person and I know that you will deal with any situation that ___[may]___ come up in the future.So trust your intuition and common sense which you have an abundance of.You don't really have to move to have peace.You just have to maintain your boundries and everything will be fine.Our problems went on for nearly 30 years because we did not have CLEAR defined boundries or the doctor Phil show for education, support and empowerment.

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KAYLA IS BRAVE AND STRONG.

IF THE STANDART MEDICAL ANTIBIOTICS FAIL

I DON'T THINK YO WERE LISTENING !!

IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE END RESULT !!

CONSIDER THIS ??

YOU ARE NOT ALONE !!

VIOLENCE AND DEATH THREATS ARE ILLEGAL

DON'T WAIST THE MONEY !

THE TRUE MARK OF SOCIOPATHS

YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT.